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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 11:26 AM
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European leaders were looking for political "cover." When Kindasleazy Rice said "We don't torture," she gave them that.

Part 2: "the leading promoter of democracy" has been a leading promoter of torture since about 1637 and has proceeded unabated ever since. Colombia, Vietnam, Nicargua, Haiti, the Phillipines, the entire nineteenth, eighteenth and seventeenth centuries with the Native Americans. Thinking we're so freakin' moral is a palliative sap we self-administer to give ourselves moral "cover."

Cunningham didn't "get away with it." He's entered a guilty plea. The better, larger question is why we let the rest of Congress "get away with it." Why is capital punishment OK for a poor black man who murders a white man, but not for a rich white one who murders democracy?

None of this behavior would be countenanced in a democracy. This isn't a democracy and never has been. In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries it was modelled on and significantly resembled the ancient Roman republic. That came to a screeching halt after the Civil War with the rise of the administrative state.

Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush have simply put the final nails in the Republic's very tight coffin. And that's the undercurrent of discontent that you feel.

The transition to fascism is always uncomfortable for those who see it and recognize it.

I hope nothing I've said is taken as being a smart aleck. It was not intended in such fashion.
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  -Please, help me figure this out - and hold the smart aleck replies.... HardWorkingDem  Dec-12-05 11:07 AM   #0 
  - It is for American consumption!  StClone   Dec-12-05 11:13 AM   #1 
  - Loopholes  TallahasseeGrannie   Dec-12-05 11:16 AM   #5 
  - After you mentioned this....  HardWorkingDem   Dec-12-05 01:37 PM   #16 
  - I'm confused. What do Rice's race and gender have to do with it?  Richardo   Dec-12-05 11:14 AM   #2 
  - What it means is....  HardWorkingDem   Dec-12-05 11:34 AM   #9 
  - Well, if it makes you feel any better...nobody was buying any of it,  Webster Green   Dec-12-05 11:14 AM   #3 
  - money and power interests say anything, then do what it takes to get more.  Sparkman   Dec-12-05 11:16 AM   #4 
  - You're right . . .  CrazyOrangeCat   Dec-12-05 11:20 AM   #6 
  - Odd thing is, Condi IS an intellectual!  Democrats_win   Dec-12-05 11:45 AM   #11 
     - An intellectual to a certain degree . . .  CrazyOrangeCat   Dec-12-05 11:54 AM   #13 
  - ok but what does black have to do with it?  bushmeat   Dec-12-05 11:21 AM   #7 
  - see no. 9....  HardWorkingDem   Dec-12-05 11:35 AM   #10 
  - because she is black and a woman ...  butterfly77   Dec-12-05 11:59 AM   #14 
  - Part 1:  GrpCaptMandrake   Dec-12-05 11:26 AM   #8 
  - Because they aren't Dems...  butterfly77   Dec-12-05 11:50 AM   #12 
  - Being totally shameless  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-12-05 12:04 PM   #15 
  - Words speak louder than actions for these people  TheFarseer   Dec-12-05 01:45 PM   #17 

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