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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:05 PM
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38. A couple things...

  1. I'm not Sheri.

  2. Although e-vote fraud is not the entire problem, it's part of it. The other part of the problem, disenfranchisement, is thoroughly discussed in John Conyer's Minority Report, Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio.

  3. Contrary to some spin, the GAO report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings.

  4. The '04 election results fly in the face of historical precedence.

  5. Et tu, New Mexico?

  6. Punching the DNC in the checkbook is apparently the only way to get their attention. I think it's a brilliant strategy. It's simple, Dean addresses the problem, the contributors come back.
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  -Open Letter to Howard Dean, Re: "Election Fraud" reprehensor  Dec-04-05 09:44 AM   #0 
  - r'd.  Al-CIAda   Dec-04-05 09:49 AM   #1 
  - I just think it'd be easier, faster, and have a MUCH larger response...  zann725   Dec-04-05 09:59 AM   #2 
  - I can't thank you enough for posting this  sasha031   Dec-04-05 10:15 AM   #3 
     - Didn't the Dem's' call Dean in for a little talk some time ago?  sasha031   Dec-04-05 10:29 AM   #5 
  - An excellent post that spoke from my heart! Kicked, copied and sent! n/t  Talismom   Dec-04-05 10:25 AM   #4 
  - Shilling for a Green Party candidate on Democratic Underground?  MH1   Dec-04-05 10:30 AM   #6 
  - Hmmmmmmmm, he's running as an independent.  sfexpat2000   Dec-04-05 10:42 AM   #10 
  - FITRAKIS IS RUNNING AS A *GREEN* , according to his website.  MH1   Dec-04-05 10:59 AM   #12 
     - He's running as a Green? Great! Now I have one more reason  sfexpat2000   Dec-04-05 11:04 AM   #14 
        - Myself,,, I am voting Green over ANY DLCer  wakeme2008   Dec-04-05 11:10 AM   #16 
        - Even if it takes votes from the Dem (prob'ly Strickland) and throws the  MH1   Dec-04-05 11:14 AM   #17 
  - democracy = choosing the one you want regardless of afiliation nt  msongs   Dec-04-05 10:54 AM   #11 
  - Democratic = Democratic Party according to DU Rules  MH1   Dec-04-05 11:04 AM   #15 
  - Democratic principles should take precedence over arbitrary affiliations  NoFederales   Dec-04-05 08:01 PM   #54 
     - Bravo, well said. Vote only for Democrats that support Democratic  rhett o rick   Dec-04-05 11:52 PM   #90 
  - Better America=When dems are in power,Worse America=When reps are in power  skipos   Dec-04-05 12:01 PM   #26 
     - So you'd support Zell Miller ?? nt  rhett o rick   Dec-04-05 11:54 PM   #91 
        - Why not ask "If Hitler came back from the dead and ran as a dem"  skipos   Dec-05-05 07:26 AM   #99 
           - Zell Miller is an extreme example  rhett o rick   Dec-05-05 10:54 AM   #100 
              - I hear ya on the Clinton thing.  skipos   Dec-05-05 06:30 PM   #105 
  - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  RagingInMiami   Dec-04-05 12:19 PM   #28 
     - Please refer to this post:  MH1   Dec-04-05 12:48 PM   #30 
        - Please enlighten me about your rude awakening  RagingInMiami   Dec-04-05 12:52 PM   #31 
        - The OP is not asking for it.  fudge stripe cookays   Dec-04-05 01:17 PM   #32 
  - There is ONE cosponsor on Obama's bill: John Kerry  MH1   Dec-04-05 10:32 AM   #7 
  - Thank you for putting this together. GREAT! I'm going to fax a copy. Rec!  Beam Me Up   Dec-04-05 10:38 AM   #8 
  - You got it, Sheri. Well done! When you're done, mail him the thread.  sfexpat2000   Dec-04-05 10:40 AM   #9 
  - Kicked & fax sent!!!  sellitman   Dec-04-05 11:02 AM   #13 
  - That's right! Scream your head off about this!  Independent_Liberal   Dec-04-05 11:17 AM   #18 
  - OHIO folks: why not support Strickland???  MH1   Dec-04-05 11:18 AM   #19 
  - Yes, Strickland is a Democrat.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 11:21 AM   #20 
  - Sheri, are you advocating taking support from the Democratic Party?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 11:23 AM   #21 
  - If the Democratic Party leadership sells out to big business, then  rhett o rick   Dec-05-05 12:04 AM   #94 
  - Well said. The Dems really need to get on top of this issue.  glitch   Dec-04-05 11:27 AM   #22 
  - Done.  MuseRider   Dec-04-05 11:50 AM   #23 
  - Why was this resolution made fun of here at DU?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 11:54 AM   #24 
  - I don't know.  skipos   Dec-04-05 12:02 PM   #27 
  - It's a very weak statement ...given that there are those of us involved  KoKo01   Dec-04-05 05:39 PM   #43 
  - Excellent, we must keep the election fraud issue alive! k/r  blue4barb   Dec-04-05 11:57 AM   #25 
  - Paper ballots NOW! Hand counts NOW!!!  In Truth We Trust   Dec-04-05 12:46 PM   #29 
  - Yes! And another petition in the same spirit:  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Dec-04-05 01:28 PM   #33 
  - Howard Dean was present for the BBV Demo of how a monkey was  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Dec-04-05 01:30 PM   #34 
  - Are you sure that he was present?  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-05-05 11:30 AM   #102 
     - Votergate the Movie  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Dec-08-05 12:38 AM   #110 
  - Done - and I'll spread the word as well. nt.  cyberpj   Dec-04-05 02:04 PM   #35 
  - Curious, does the green party have it's own message board to  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 02:18 PM   #36 
  - Besides Strickland, a democrat, who else is running in Ohio?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 02:30 PM   #37 
  - A couple things...  reprehensor   Dec-04-05 04:05 PM   #38 
  - So you are saying withhold funds and give to a Green candidate?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 04:26 PM   #40 
  - DON'T AGREE WITH RUSH-HOLT BILL  JohnWxy   Dec-04-05 04:25 PM   #39 
  - what if: helping Bob win on a Green ticket really help the Dems ...  kansasblue   Dec-04-05 05:09 PM   #41 
  - How?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 05:17 PM   #42 
  - The Conyers Report: What Went Wrong in Ohio...  reprehensor   Dec-04-05 05:47 PM   #44 
  - You don't have to "play nice". You can have your own party.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 06:12 PM   #45 
     - I'd rather see reform in the DNC gameplan, but thanks for the offer!  reprehensor   Dec-04-05 06:53 PM   #47 
        - But I refer to the letter.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 07:02 PM   #48 
           - Kind of an Escher sketch, isn't it?  reprehensor   Dec-04-05 07:57 PM   #53 
              - It got my attention because it is unfairly targeting one person.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 08:06 PM   #55 
  - Adding my KICK  election_2004   Dec-04-05 06:15 PM   #46 
  - Thanks!!!  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 07:07 PM   #49 
  - Dean HAS to address what HAS HAPPENED. Not just how he wants to  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 07:42 PM   #50 
  - It is his job to plan future campaigns. He is doing his job.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 07:50 PM   #51 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-05 08:31 PM   #56 
        - "yappy dog posts" new one.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 08:38 PM   #57 
        - "You obviously have absolutely NOTHING meaningful to say"  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 08:48 PM   #58 
        - Regardless of the fact that Dean is THE head of the DNC, you CONTINUOUSLY  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 08:57 PM   #61 
           - It is about 3rd party, you may just not realize it.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 09:02 PM   #62 
              - The only thing that election fraud has to do with 3rd parties is the vote-  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 09:16 PM   #63 
                 - Careful, an agenda is surely underway, Dean is obviously ruffling  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 09:30 PM   #64 
                    - Unless Dean "takes down" election fraud, we can kiss the Democratic  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 09:38 PM   #68 
                    - Are you part of BBV, Bev's group?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 09:41 PM   #70 
                    - My, my -- what a surprise! Another idiotic question!  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 09:51 PM   #72 
                       - Why are you doing this?  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 10:08 PM   #77 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-05 10:13 PM   #80 
                          - The entire point of the OP is that Dean isn't loudly addressing the issue  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 10:38 PM   #87 
                    - Unless Dean takes down election fraud? I didn't realize that Dean  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 10:06 PM   #76 
                       - Dean's refuses to address the issue of election fraud -- the #1 issue  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 10:24 PM   #85 
                          - Oh I see, and while one spends all his time on this one issue,  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 10:33 PM   #86 
                             - What do you think is the source of ALL issues facing us now? --  nicknameless   Dec-04-05 10:45 PM   #88 
                    - I much appreciate your posts today.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 09:40 PM   #69 
                       - Your the only reason I logged on today and am risking the wrath  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 09:54 PM   #73 
                          - Not just Dean, but the party itself being denied donations.  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 10:10 PM   #78 
                             - I am not even a registered Dem nor would I ever become one simply  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 10:20 PM   #82 
        - "relentless" "pathetic" "yappy dog"  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 09:42 PM   #71 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-04-05 11:09 PM   #89 
  - I will join your effort ; seems no one gives a shit in Missouri so my $$$  NoFederales   Dec-04-05 07:54 PM   #52 
  - Are you a green party member?  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 09:31 PM   #65 
     - No.  NoFederales   Dec-04-05 09:34 PM   #67 
     - I don't see posters upset with Dean the DNC leader so much; frustration  NoFederales   Dec-04-05 09:54 PM   #74 
        - And as we all know, its so easy for Dean to be heard, I mean after  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 10:11 PM   #79 
        - It is not my intention to lure, or be lured, into provocative spins,  NoFederales   Dec-04-05 10:20 PM   #83 
           - Surely such words make sense only to the one spinning them..  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 10:24 PM   #84 
        - See, you are also withholding support just as we are getting started....  madfloridian   Dec-04-05 10:15 PM   #81 
           - Will you support the Democratic Party when they are controlled by  rhett o rick   Dec-05-05 12:01 AM   #93 
              - This is such a sad thread. You don't even know Dean's goal...  madfloridian   Dec-05-05 12:10 AM   #95 
                 - I support Dean. I am only saying that we shouldn't blindly support  rhett o rick   Dec-05-05 12:17 AM   #96 
  - KICK  faithnotgreed   Dec-04-05 08:55 PM   #59 
  - K&R- come on HJoward- kick some damn ass--- eom  FogerRox   Dec-04-05 08:57 PM   #60 
     - Perhaps if Dean had more loyal supporters he could kick anyone's ass..  AuntPatsy   Dec-04-05 09:33 PM   #66 
  - awesome letter  gristy   Dec-04-05 10:00 PM   #75 
  - I won't support any Democrat that isn't willing to FIGHT for  rhett o rick   Dec-04-05 11:57 PM   #92 
  - kick for democracy  rman   Dec-05-05 05:54 AM   #97 
  - None Dare Call it Stolen.  reprehensor   Dec-05-05 06:03 AM   #98 
  - I want my candidate in 2008 to stand up to the Swift Boaters,  rhett o rick   Dec-05-05 11:10 AM   #101 
  - Bob Fitrakis doesn't seem to like Democrats:  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-05-05 12:02 PM   #103 
  - He doesn;t like CORRUPTION, in any party or candidate. Has nothing  Amaryllis   Dec-06-05 06:13 PM   #108 
     - Then why doesn't he run as a Democrat and reform the party?  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-07-05 07:06 AM   #109 
  - Fitrakis: "DEMOCRATS SHOULD VOTE FOR TED STRICKLAND"  Aaaargh   Dec-05-05 12:41 PM   #104 
  - Resolution in Support of Election Reform (Adopted by DNC)  MaineDem   Dec-05-05 06:46 PM   #106 
     - Silly person, they don't want to see this.  madfloridian   Dec-05-05 07:02 PM   #107 

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