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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:19 PM
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39. Wouldn't mind seeing a link to that either...
Jack understands the urban issues from the inside of Canada's largest city. He has dealt with the problems population density bring. Care to explain what it is exactly you have against him?

As for two lefts and one right, it's actually pretty good. We can select from -two- different brands of Lib/Left, which certainly helps to send a message to Ottawa as to which way we're leaning.

Mulroney's RW landslide and follow-up re-election in the time of Reagan put the scare into our centirst-left Liberals. They leaned right and smashed the Tories and installed Paul Martin as finance minister. Martin served for nearly a decade(?) and much of our financial recovery is due to his austerity budgets. This was while Jean Chretien was PM.

Martin is now PM, and he's still right of centre, tho' not as crazy as the Tories.

If we -only- had two parties, they'd be the liberals and the tories. They'd both be fighting for centre-right. Those of us on the left would have nothing.

But because we have the NDP, and they are a viable party with noble principles, the Liberals can't afford to go hog-wild into freeper country. They've got to look over the shoulders and make sure they appeal to enough of the left, because by far our country is left-leaning.

With the Liberals too far right, now is the best time to send a -lot- of NDP to Ottawa, to steer the Liberals back to their centrist-left base. Liberals have been losing their core base for years and replacing them with LINOs.

The ambitious know no party loyalty.

That's another good point for the NDP. Only those dedicated to the principles are going to have the determination to stick out all these lean years without real power.
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  -Left or Right? Canadian government falls Robert Cooper  Nov-29-05 06:42 AM   #0 
  - I envy you your multi-party system, and that you have actual debates.  Peace Patriot   Nov-29-05 07:15 AM   #1 
  - Paper ballots, all counted by the end of the night...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 09:11 AM   #7 
  - We have the output from the Fraser Institute last April to tell us what  applegrove   Nov-29-05 07:52 AM   #2 
  - Don't be surprised...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 09:18 AM   #8 
  - Watch out, my Canadian friends....  sofa king   Nov-29-05 08:14 AM   #3 
  - Thanks for the heads up...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 09:21 AM   #9 
  - they guy who runs the NDP is a shyster former Conservative  BlueManDude   Nov-29-05 08:49 AM   #4 
  - Since when??  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 08:59 AM   #5 
  - Bullshit.  Telly Savalas   Nov-29-05 07:25 PM   #25 
  - Can you provide a single shred of evidence  Telly Savalas   Nov-29-05 07:27 PM   #26 
     - I apologize - it was his Dad who was a Conservative leader  BlueManDude   Nov-30-05 11:00 AM   #34 
        - The Cons' support pretty much maxes out at 30%.  Telly Savalas   Nov-30-05 06:32 PM   #35 
        - I know there are many NDPers here  BlueManDude   Nov-30-05 09:08 PM   #38 
        - Wouldn't mind seeing a link to that either...  Robert Cooper   Nov-30-05 11:19 PM   #39 
  - I hope this anti-Liberal trend remains north of the border  win_in_06   Nov-29-05 09:00 AM   #6 
  - Perhaps this will help...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 09:23 AM   #10 
  - I'm familiar with Canadian politics, at least a little. Who is that very  win_in_06   Nov-29-05 09:31 AM   #11 
  - Belinda Stronach?  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 09:40 AM   #13 
     - Thanks. What's the name of that conservative guy who was leading  win_in_06   Nov-29-05 12:26 PM   #14 
        - no idea...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 12:52 PM   #15 
        - Can't remember. But his top aids were named Jim Beam and Jack Daniels.  Telly Savalas   Nov-30-05 06:33 PM   #36 
  - Interesting. Then the New Democrat Party is NOT the party of Neo Libs?  radio4progressives   Nov-29-05 04:32 PM   #17 
     - Correct, almost ...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 05:01 PM   #19 
  - Forgot to mention...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 09:33 AM   #12 
     - This is really interesting. Canada's NDP is the opposite of USA (N)DP  radio4progressives   Nov-29-05 04:49 PM   #18 
        - Wikipedia link provides several answers...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 05:19 PM   #21 
  - Is the NDP really "Left "of the Liberal Party ? [!]  radio4progressives   Nov-29-05 04:13 PM   #16 
  - No confidence votes makes for strange bedfellows...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 05:16 PM   #20 
  - Wish we were able to have  zidzi   Nov-29-05 06:05 PM   #22 
  - We've mutual interests...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 06:20 PM   #23 
     - At least there's a  zidzi   Nov-29-05 07:24 PM   #24 
     - I lived in NW Ontario  McLuhan   Nov-29-05 07:58 PM   #27 
        - During Reagan's Rule...  Robert Cooper   Nov-29-05 11:25 PM   #28 
  - The NDP is the democratic socialist party of Canada...  ElkHunter   Nov-29-05 11:30 PM   #29 
  - Thanks for the support...  Robert Cooper   Nov-30-05 05:59 AM   #30 
  - What, no Canadian Liberals here at DU?  Robert Cooper   Nov-30-05 06:03 AM   #31 
  - My only concern about this election  kevinbgoode   Nov-30-05 06:18 AM   #32 
     - It's been on my mind too...  Robert Cooper   Nov-30-05 06:40 AM   #33 
  - It's amazing what hand-counting the votes of the people will do for a  loudsue   Nov-30-05 08:41 PM   #37 
 

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