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| 5. If you can't win an election where 99% of the dems are behind the candidat |
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(ie, Kerry), how are you going to win when easily half of the republicans and half of the dems are firmly against that candidate (ie, Hillary)? I just don't see how her candidacy translates into something other than a complete rout.
Gyre
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| -Will a Hillary Candidacy Doom the Dems to Lose Again '08? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-27-05 05:46 PM |
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Yup. |
ocelot |
Nov-27-05 05:47 PM |
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agreed . . . she's too polarizing . . . n/t |
OneBlueSky |
Nov-27-05 11:36 PM |
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Hillary has never mentioned running |
niceypoo |
Nov-28-05 07:28 AM |
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Then why am I, |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-28-05 08:47 AM |
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I'm getting them, too |
Steve_DeShazer |
Nov-28-05 06:14 PM |
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because she is a politician |
niceypoo |
Nov-30-05 07:29 AM |
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Heck...she's even polarizing among democrats |
formernaderite |
Nov-28-05 01:23 PM |
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I refuse to vote for her, primary or general n/t |
enough already |
Nov-29-05 07:22 PM |
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IMO, Hillary would win. |
merwin |
Nov-27-05 05:47 PM |
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I agree - Dean made the GOP "happy" - but they were really scared of him |
papau |
Nov-27-05 05:53 PM |
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Exactly. When they say they're happy, they're scared shitless. |
merwin |
Nov-27-05 06:24 PM |
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that was all disinformation. |
emcguffie |
Nov-28-05 06:13 PM |
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I say..Run Hillary...If the American Public wants the Republicans... |
BlueJazz |
Nov-27-05 06:08 PM |
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Bill was a moderate dem as well... and we had 8 years of greatness. |
merwin |
Nov-27-05 06:30 PM |
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If the clinton years are your standard of greatness.... |
AmericanDream |
Nov-28-05 05:18 AM |
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Ah but if not for the harassment of the RW |
Patchuli |
Nov-28-05 11:52 PM |
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Nobody "harassed" Clinton into NAFTA |
enough already |
Nov-29-05 07:24 PM |
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Well I don't believe I said Bill was a saint either |
Patchuli |
Nov-29-05 08:00 PM |
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I don't give a flying f$*! about his sex life. |
enough already |
Nov-30-05 07:15 AM |
#134 |
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Apparently, you missed my point |
Patchuli |
Nov-30-05 10:52 AM |
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Look at what happens in NY in 2006 |
Nederland |
Nov-28-05 02:05 PM |
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The time is right for a woman president. |
Fridays Child |
Nov-27-05 05:48 PM |
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What difference does sex make? |
The Straight Story |
Nov-28-05 08:11 PM |
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In the struggle for equal rights, it's time for a woman president. |
Fridays Child |
Nov-28-05 09:17 PM |
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I agree with you! |
Patchuli |
Nov-28-05 11:54 PM |
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Hooray for Fridays! |
Fridays Child |
Nov-29-05 09:12 AM |
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America is too stupid to elect Hillary. |
johncoby2 |
Nov-27-05 05:49 PM |
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I hope we're smart enough not to nominate her. |
ocelot |
Nov-27-05 05:56 PM |
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People like you are why we lose |
Nederland |
Nov-28-05 01:57 PM |
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If you can't win an election where 99% of the dems are behind the candidat |
Gyre |
Nov-27-05 05:50 PM |
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I seem to recall a hell of a lot of dems who weren't behind Kerry |
merwin |
Nov-27-05 06:25 PM |
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Yes, but most of us voted for him anyway. |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Nov-27-05 09:34 PM |
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Yes. I brought an air sickness bag in the booth with me |
wiley |
Nov-28-05 05:18 PM |
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Short answer: yes. |
terrya |
Nov-27-05 05:50 PM |
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Seriously, I'm not trying to be funny, why do you say that? |
Lastlaughin08 |
Nov-27-05 05:56 PM |
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I say it because she will lose. Big. |
terrya |
Nov-27-05 06:03 PM |
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Thanks. Who would be our best bet - someone who WOULD win? |
Lastlaughin08 |
Nov-27-05 06:08 PM |
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Mark Warner |
InaneAnanity |
Nov-27-05 11:32 PM |
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Forget about the libs that will leave us |
jackbourassa |
Nov-27-05 06:31 PM |
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Yes. |
Mme. Defarge |
Nov-27-05 05:51 PM |
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YES!!! |
meti57b |
Nov-27-05 05:52 PM |
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Is your kitty a Bengal? |
Patchuli |
Nov-28-05 11:56 PM |
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Hi ... they are Devons |
meti57b |
Nov-29-05 03:37 PM |
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He's absolutely gorgeous! |
Patchuli |
Nov-29-05 07:55 PM |
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Hi again .... |
meti57b |
Nov-29-05 08:15 PM |
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I love all my babies! |
Patchuli |
Nov-29-05 10:37 PM |
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Yes. |
ken_g |
Nov-27-05 05:53 PM |
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yes, that is why the GOP is talking her up. |
Lerkfish |
Nov-27-05 05:53 PM |
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Diebold will doom the Democrats |
MichiganVote |
Nov-27-05 05:53 PM |
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You betcha |
Warpy |
Nov-27-05 05:55 PM |
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Depends on the amount of Backlash |
HockeyMom |
Nov-27-05 05:55 PM |
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2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 2006 |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-27-05 05:56 PM |
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Thanks! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-27-05 06:11 PM |
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Indeed, Professor! |
The Magistrate |
Nov-27-05 11:35 PM |
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absolutely |
Imagine My Surprise |
Nov-27-05 05:56 PM |
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Yes. |
spindrifter |
Nov-27-05 05:56 PM |
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In a word, YES. |
Hardhead |
Nov-27-05 05:56 PM |
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It's not 2004 right now |
oldlady |
Nov-27-05 05:58 PM |
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Yes. n/t |
mia |
Nov-27-05 05:58 PM |
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Hillary has spent so much time being repuklican-lite |
dennisnyc |
Nov-27-05 05:58 PM |
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yes, sadly |
TallahasseeGrannie |
Nov-27-05 06:02 PM |
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No...she's not my choice, but she certainly has a realistic chance to win |
Rowdyboy |
Nov-27-05 06:04 PM |
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Yes, I believe that it would. I hope the dems. are smarter than that! n/t |
Talismom |
Nov-27-05 06:05 PM |
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Good "street politician" sense - Edwards, Schweitzer, or Vilsack. |
Coastie for Truth |
Nov-27-05 06:11 PM |
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Edwards, Schweitzer: great; Vilsack? I'm not buying that one. |
AmericanDream |
Nov-28-05 05:20 AM |
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VilSUCK's so called "good sense" |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Nov-28-05 11:32 PM |
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Hillary let Al pave the way to a more feasible goal 2016, and save our.. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Nov-27-05 06:14 PM |
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Yes. She will not pass the primaries. Media will absolutely butcher her. |
AlinPA |
Nov-27-05 06:19 PM |
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I don't think she can win against McCain or Hagel. |
MissMarple |
Nov-27-05 06:22 PM |
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The hard RW will sink McCain before he even gets close |
Lastlaughin08 |
Nov-27-05 06:41 PM |
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They're certainly not happy with McCain.......but I think we're |
0007 |
Nov-29-05 10:59 PM |
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Those dumbasses will never nominate McCain |
enough already |
Nov-29-05 07:37 PM |
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Yes. |
La Coliniere |
Nov-27-05 06:26 PM |
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Yes |
judy from nj |
Nov-27-05 06:27 PM |
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YES YES YES YES - WAKE THE HELL UP |
UDenver20 |
Nov-27-05 06:35 PM |
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Nobody wants it...! |
kentuck |
Nov-27-05 06:37 PM |
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Absolutely NOT...and not only would she not lose... |
SaveElmer |
Nov-27-05 06:41 PM |
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Jeez, not again. |
PSPS |
Nov-27-05 06:47 PM |
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Hillary is at the absolute bottom of my list. |
longship |
Nov-27-05 06:47 PM |
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Yes, but not for the reasons you'd think |
localroger |
Nov-27-05 06:51 PM |
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She could very well win |
quinnox |
Nov-27-05 06:55 PM |
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Those polls |
Donna Zen |
Nov-27-05 09:02 PM |
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Repukes scared of Hill?? Bawhahah,they hope like HELL she runs... |
OneTwentyoNine |
Nov-28-05 06:50 AM |
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YES!!! |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 07:08 PM |
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YES!! |
LiberalPartisan |
Nov-27-05 07:53 PM |
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The Dems have to be willing to play hardball |
win_in_06 |
Nov-27-05 08:25 PM |
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John Edwards, Russ Feingold, Evan Bayh, possibly Gen. Clark and -- |
Old Crusoe |
Nov-27-05 08:32 PM |
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I do have a couple of questions about Hillary running. First, are the |
Crazy Guggenheim |
Nov-27-05 08:34 PM |
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We're prepared |
Donna Zen |
Nov-27-05 09:07 PM |
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Good answer. |
Crazy Guggenheim |
Nov-27-05 09:15 PM |
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4 more years of war |
charles t |
Nov-27-05 09:14 PM |
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Welcome to DU. |
Crazy Guggenheim |
Nov-27-05 09:17 PM |
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We'll definitely lose again with Hillary |
Jersey Ginny |
Nov-27-05 09:23 PM |
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Hillary Clinton will never be President. |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Nov-27-05 09:32 PM |
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yup |
Jacobin |
Nov-27-05 10:39 PM |
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Yes |
doc03 |
Nov-27-05 11:16 PM |
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Perhaps |
YoungDemocrat |
Nov-27-05 11:33 PM |
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Hillary will lose IMO |
Popol Vuh |
Nov-28-05 04:34 AM |
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Agreed... |
PatGund |
Nov-28-05 05:16 AM |
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Hell yes!! We don't need to try the "Grand experiment".... |
OneTwentyoNine |
Nov-28-05 06:47 AM |
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Yes. Even if she wins, we remain Republicans and a corporatocracy. |
leesa |
Nov-28-05 06:57 AM |
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No, but I will say again... |
rpannier |
Nov-28-05 07:14 AM |
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Hillary |
shantipriya |
Nov-28-05 08:01 AM |
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I will not vote or vote republican just to keep her DLC ass out of the WH. |
oc2002 |
Nov-28-05 08:05 AM |
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YES!!!!!!!! n/t |
trillian |
Nov-28-05 08:06 AM |
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Yes. It's a horrible mistake. n/t |
LizW |
Nov-28-05 08:14 AM |
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No, because I still doubt she could get the nomination. |
mmonk |
Nov-28-05 08:49 AM |
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Yes, next question? |
losdiablosgato |
Nov-28-05 09:34 AM |
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Completely unelectable, esp against McCain. |
mrgorth |
Nov-28-05 11:11 AM |
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Democrats would definitely lose Congress |
election_2004 |
Nov-28-05 12:41 PM |
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Yup, unless Condi runs for the repubs. n/t, IMO |
splat@14 |
Nov-28-05 01:45 PM |
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OR IF....the R's... |
windbreeze |
Nov-28-05 06:56 PM |
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Good point, don't know the timing of the conventions. It'll get dirty! |
splat@14 |
Nov-28-05 08:05 PM |
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Nope, cause she's gonna lose the primary... |
Chicago Democrat |
Nov-28-05 03:15 PM |
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ABSOLUTELY 100%, WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, CORRECT!!!!! |
autorank |
Nov-28-05 11:40 PM |
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Mega love to you freind! its good to know like minded people |
Chicago Democrat |
Nov-28-05 11:53 PM |
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Soul brothers!!!! n/t |
autorank |
Nov-29-05 01:34 AM |
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Yes.. |
sendero |
Nov-28-05 05:54 PM |
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I think so. |
emcguffie |
Nov-28-05 06:11 PM |
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W/O a doubt....YES!! n/t |
windbreeze |
Nov-28-05 06:49 PM |
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Vinnie, I don't know you, but we see these "Hillary will kill us" posts |
July |
Nov-28-05 06:59 PM |
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You bring up many points worthy of consideration |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-28-05 10:59 PM |
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Hagel or McCain or Frist or Condi or Cheney or Allen already won in 2008 |
zulchzulu |
Nov-28-05 07:18 PM |
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Read post above. it speaks the TRUTH |
autorank |
Nov-28-05 11:43 PM |
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There is nobody the Republicans Love More to Hate than Hillary |
JohnWxy |
Nov-28-05 07:46 PM |
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Its never good to start off an election with over 40% of the |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-28-05 08:17 PM |
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No because she'll never get nominated. It's all "name recognition" now. |
autorank |
Nov-28-05 11:40 PM |
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Let's hope the Dems come up with somebody other than Hillary. |
VaYallaDawg |
Nov-29-05 09:16 AM |
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Yes, we'll lose n/t |
bspence |
Nov-29-05 03:49 PM |
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Her negatives are so high that she doesn't have a chance |
depakid |
Nov-29-05 04:23 PM |
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That's my own belief. |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-29-05 07:09 PM |
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Definitely, YES. |
peace frog |
Nov-29-05 07:36 PM |
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Hasn't Bush 2 made us tired of nepotism yet? |
killbotfactory |
Nov-29-05 07:45 PM |
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I don't handicap Hillary as an automatic loss |
Awsi Dooger |
Nov-29-05 11:04 PM |
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Come on folks, give this |
BenDavid |
Nov-30-05 12:10 AM |
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I've told my Republican friend repeatedly that I doubt it |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-30-05 12:12 AM |
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