| 102. Thanks for playing into the hands of Bush and the GOP |
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Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 01:28 PM by politicasista
It will help us win in 06. Thanks for keeping dems divided.  |
| -Someone explain to me how Kerry was the most electable in '04? |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 12:06 AM |
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I never thought he was, not by a long shot |
Skittles |
Nov-27-05 12:06 AM |
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Blame it on Iowa... |
larissa |
Nov-27-05 12:08 AM |
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Let's not forget the DNC that just poured $ into his |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-27-05 11:29 AM |
#72 |
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Not True - in Dec 03, the time period you are talking about |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 11:50 AM |
#77 |
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You have GOT to be kidding, Kerry, the poor little rich boy? |
PassingFair |
Nov-27-05 01:27 PM |
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It is absolutely true |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 02:16 PM |
#108 |
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I guess in Iowa, it's not how much you spend... |
PassingFair |
Nov-27-05 02:20 PM |
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How much do you think he has? |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-28-05 05:42 PM |
#198 |
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Methinks Mama might have had an interest in being... |
PassingFair |
Nov-28-05 06:41 PM |
#201 |
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Yawp. But she can only cough up so much |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-28-05 06:56 PM |
#203 |
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Heh. I just did that very thing (opensecrets.org). I found something funny |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-28-05 07:54 PM |
#204 |
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I've been unsuccessfully looking for the data. I remember reading |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-27-05 03:06 PM |
#118 |
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I wish I could answer, but you're singing to the choir here. |
MercutioATC |
Nov-27-05 12:09 AM |
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Gee - I can think of eight |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 11:50 AM |
#78 |
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Al Sharpton??? C'mon... |
MercutioATC |
Nov-27-05 09:52 PM |
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Excuse me? Where do you come off saying that. He was far from |
wisteria |
Nov-27-05 10:39 PM |
#162 |
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He never connected with the "average" American. |
MercutioATC |
Nov-27-05 10:58 PM |
#164 |
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Firefighters identified with him - so did men who lived in REAL foxholes |
blm |
Nov-28-05 09:36 AM |
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Ahhh, if only the electorate were all firefighters and veterans... |
MercutioATC |
Nov-28-05 03:16 PM |
#189 |
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You think so, Other people think so. A lot is your qualifier that |
Mass |
Nov-28-05 03:21 PM |
#190 |
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"A lot" was enough to let Bush win... |
MercutioATC |
Nov-28-05 03:30 PM |
#191 |
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That was true of all candidates. Some like them, some dont, |
Mass |
Nov-28-05 03:33 PM |
#192 |
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Not the waiters and waitresses who voted Kerry tops for graciousness |
blm |
Nov-28-05 03:36 PM |
#193 |
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Except if you believe CNN's Crowley who thinks that people in Iowa |
Mass |
Nov-28-05 03:40 PM |
#194 |
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Ahhh, if only the electorate were all waiters and waitresses... |
MercutioATC |
Nov-28-05 03:40 PM |
#195 |
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And something caused people to believe Dean was a raving lunatic but it |
blm |
Nov-28-05 03:50 PM |
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and more Kerry bashing helps how....?? |
Dying Eagle |
Nov-27-05 12:11 AM |
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Im not bashing Kerry. Im bashing the people who say electability |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 12:12 AM |
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Your intent may not be a Kerry bash... |
Dying Eagle |
Nov-27-05 12:20 AM |
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Many of us did see the same thing as you. He was my choice and even |
_dynamicdems |
Nov-27-05 01:58 AM |
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Count me as one |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 11:52 AM |
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Then use FACTS to explain your claims against Kerry in your post. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:08 AM |
#48 |
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The fact that you cannot provide any... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 10:11 AM |
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Then I suggest you read all the posts. They have been named but YOU dodge |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:17 AM |
#53 |
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Are you a paid Kerry campaigner? |
maryallen |
Nov-27-05 02:48 PM |
#110 |
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Nope. I'm someone who came here to alert people to Left Behind influence |
blm |
Nov-27-05 05:48 PM |
#134 |
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We would stop "bashing" Kerry if the pro-Kerry folks would |
ladjf |
Nov-27-05 12:09 PM |
#87 |
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Thank you!! |
MyPetRock |
Nov-27-05 12:11 PM |
#89 |
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Bashing Kerry because his supporters are supporting him? n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-27-05 12:26 PM |
#90 |
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Care to show the threads that do that? |
blm |
Nov-27-05 01:11 PM |
#99 |
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Why would you defend Kerry against RW lies, ect unless you |
ladjf |
Nov-27-05 07:23 PM |
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We want the truth to prevail! Not the lies! n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-27-05 10:30 PM |
#160 |
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Find the lawmaker who effected this nation more positively the last 35yrs. |
blm |
Nov-28-05 08:16 AM |
#169 |
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Because he deserves to have his reputation reflect the principled |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 02:26 PM |
#181 |
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Thats funny |
Dying Eagle |
Nov-27-05 02:00 PM |
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We can not promote what is undeclared. We only defend him |
wisteria |
Nov-27-05 10:29 PM |
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Got that right! |
TankLV |
Nov-27-05 11:43 PM |
#166 |
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Seeing that this is a Warner 2008 thread in desguise |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 02:19 PM |
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i didnt think so, and didnt vote for him in the primary. |
bullimiami |
Nov-27-05 12:11 AM |
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Stupidity....Once he won Iowa, the herd instinct took over ...STAMPEDE! |
Rowdyboy |
Nov-27-05 12:12 AM |
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Yeah... what Rowdyboy said. ...But on the bright side Nick... |
larissa |
Nov-27-05 12:16 AM |
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Thats a good pic. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 12:18 AM |
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Yeah... I like it too... |
larissa |
Nov-27-05 12:21 AM |
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You know what, I am beginning to dislike him already, simply |
wisteria |
Nov-27-05 10:34 PM |
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Not only that, as a NH neighbor he got the favorite son vote... |
Kahuna |
Nov-27-05 11:53 AM |
#81 |
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My map shows that Vermont is also a neighbor of NH |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 02:30 PM |
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He wasn't, although he was a DAMN sight more so than Gep or Graham. |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-27-05 12:14 AM |
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Kerry was elected |
melody |
Nov-27-05 12:15 AM |
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He won... seems pretty open-and-shut to me. nt |
sepia_steel |
Nov-27-05 12:36 AM |
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Won? Damn, fooled the hell out of me... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 12:39 AM |
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I didn't agree with it but those guys weren't any better, IMO |
Awsi Dooger |
Nov-27-05 12:37 AM |
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I was going to include Edwards, but I figured... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 12:44 AM |
#18 |
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I'm not sure |
Awsi Dooger |
Nov-27-05 01:01 AM |
#24 |
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It's easy to forget now but Bush ran on his national security credentials |
Tom Rinaldo |
Nov-27-05 07:46 AM |
#40 |
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Edwards would likely have been seen as someone far too green |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 12:10 PM |
#88 |
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Mediocre at best? That's what you call a 92% lifetime ADA rating? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-27-05 12:41 AM |
#17 |
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Well said Wild Eye..... |
Dying Eagle |
Nov-27-05 12:53 AM |
#20 |
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Newsflash |
Awsi Dooger |
Nov-27-05 12:54 AM |
#21 |
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But by that token, no challenger has ever beat an incumbent war prez. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-27-05 01:13 AM |
#28 |
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Damn, you make it sound so good. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 12:56 AM |
#22 |
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Ooohh, pick me.. I know, I know !!! |
larissa |
Nov-27-05 01:00 AM |
#23 |
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That too. n/t |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-27-05 01:10 AM |
#27 |
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FEAR, LIES, SPIN ,WAR ,CHARACTER ASSASSINATION |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-27-05 01:09 AM |
#26 |
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We are not in a war, a war requires sacrafice. Who besides the |
dorktv |
Nov-27-05 01:25 AM |
#29 |
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That made no sense |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-27-05 01:27 AM |
#30 |
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2000=senseless slaughter. |
dorktv |
Nov-27-05 07:40 PM |
#153 |
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HE DIDN'T !! |
discerning christian |
Nov-27-05 01:29 AM |
#31 |
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So why didn't Kerry ever brag about these accomplishments? Or |
Kahuna |
Nov-27-05 11:58 AM |
#82 |
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It's untrue if you watched daily Cspan rallies, true if you watched corp. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 01:16 PM |
#100 |
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That may be all the media reported |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 02:48 PM |
#184 |
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My opinion: I wasn't so much involved in politics, but was |
babylonsister |
Nov-27-05 12:52 AM |
#19 |
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Maybe because people voted for him. I really love Gephardt and think |
_dynamicdems |
Nov-27-05 01:07 AM |
#25 |
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Wesley Clark might have been much more electable. |
longship |
Nov-27-05 02:18 AM |
#33 |
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If wishes were horses beggars would ride |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 12:27 PM |
#91 |
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Corporate Media talking head frenzy that started after Iowa |
high density |
Nov-27-05 03:57 AM |
#34 |
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Reality |
fedupinBushcountry |
Nov-27-05 08:00 AM |
#42 |
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You're right |
beaconess |
Nov-27-05 07:28 PM |
#152 |
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Coming in third when everyone expected him to win was a |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 12:28 PM |
#92 |
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He was the DLC's alternative to Joementum |
election_2004 |
Nov-27-05 04:33 AM |
#35 |
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Clark was supported mostly by the Clinton people |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 12:39 PM |
#93 |
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I've heard it argued that he was a Kerry alternative |
Tom Rinaldo |
Nov-27-05 03:53 PM |
#121 |
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Joementum was a factor |
election_2004 |
Nov-27-05 04:42 PM |
#128 |
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Lieberman had his initial backers sure |
Tom Rinaldo |
Nov-27-05 05:06 PM |
#130 |
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DLC alternative? |
incapsulated |
Nov-27-05 10:04 PM |
#156 |
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Whether electable or not, he won by 5M votes according to the polls, |
Stevepol |
Nov-27-05 04:40 AM |
#36 |
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OK, some thoughts |
Catchawave |
Nov-27-05 07:06 AM |
#37 |
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Not all VN vets voted against Kerry |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 12:51 PM |
#94 |
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Oh I agree ! |
Catchawave |
Nov-27-05 03:01 PM |
#116 |
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The Democrats always get less than half of the veterans |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 02:51 PM |
#185 |
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Graham |
Joy Anne |
Nov-27-05 07:20 AM |
#38 |
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Because he won Iowa. |
TayTay |
Nov-27-05 07:22 AM |
#39 |
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Dick Gephardt is a great guy and a wonderful legislator. |
Neil Lisst |
Nov-27-05 07:50 AM |
#41 |
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You hear that at DU |
LWolf |
Nov-27-05 08:49 AM |
#43 |
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I agree with much of your post but |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 09:58 AM |
#44 |
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I donated. I voted. |
LWolf |
Nov-27-05 11:27 AM |
#70 |
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And those of us who WANT to expose government corruption WANTED Kerry. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:07 AM |
#47 |
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Some of you. n/t |
LWolf |
Nov-27-05 11:27 AM |
#71 |
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Yep, those of us who can decipher actual records and historic facts. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 11:35 AM |
#73 |
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Again, some of you. |
LWolf |
Nov-28-05 06:35 AM |
#168 |
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I think the focus should be on machine fraud, too. And media fraud. |
blm |
Nov-28-05 08:21 AM |
#170 |
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Yes, Kerry easily won the ABB crowd, BUT |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-28-05 01:42 PM |
#176 |
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I think it was more that |
ProSense |
Nov-28-05 02:08 PM |
#177 |
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Explain your criteria for your claim that his Senate record was mediocre. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:04 AM |
#45 |
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Name one major piece of legislation that he wrote... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 10:07 AM |
#46 |
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YOU made a claim - back up your claim. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:13 AM |
#50 |
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I said major... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 10:14 AM |
#51 |
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HAHAH - Campaign finance reform Bill came after Kerry and Wellstone's |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:19 AM |
#54 |
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Wow, your really streching now. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 10:26 AM |
#57 |
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Nope. I don't view McCain-Feingold's bill a success for this country - |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:34 AM |
#59 |
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Tracking Terror Funding wasn't major to you? Must have been major because |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:37 AM |
#60 |
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My claim is backed by his lack of major legislation, thanks. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 10:15 AM |
#52 |
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Your claim is based on not knowing how the senate works. SENIOR Senators |
blm |
Nov-27-05 10:23 AM |
#55 |
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Kerry never mentioned one thing about his senate record. If it was so |
Kahuna |
Nov-27-05 12:00 PM |
#83 |
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The party's job was to do the bragging about the man, like RNC did for W. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 01:08 PM |
#98 |
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He WAS. It WAS his Destiny...even yet. |
zann725 |
Nov-27-05 10:25 AM |
#56 |
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Kerry got the nomination and the election was stolen. |
ProSense |
Nov-27-05 10:28 AM |
#58 |
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I think this is a strawman |
Cocoa |
Nov-27-05 10:43 AM |
#61 |
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I never said Kerry supporters voted for him soley because... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 11:15 AM |
#64 |
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How ironic that you are pushing a candidate for 2008 |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 01:01 PM |
#95 |
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I think there were several reasons people saw him as electable. |
Sparkly |
Nov-27-05 10:47 AM |
#62 |
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Gephardt served... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 11:16 AM |
#66 |
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Right, but... |
Sparkly |
Nov-27-05 11:21 AM |
#68 |
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Gotcha. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 11:22 AM |
#69 |
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Are you in some kind of time warp? You just came up with this |
HopeLives |
Nov-27-05 11:12 AM |
#63 |
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Where to start....? |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 11:17 AM |
#67 |
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You did not provide, nor do you have any evidence that |
HopeLives |
Nov-27-05 06:01 PM |
#136 |
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The GOP, the corporations and their pet media chose him for us. |
leesa |
Nov-27-05 11:16 AM |
#65 |
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All those people, who looked like regular Iowa and NH |
karynnj |
Nov-27-05 01:04 PM |
#97 |
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Kerry and Edwards came in 4th and 5th place in this DU poll from 04 |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 11:40 AM |
#74 |
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I agree... Maybe I phrased my question wrong. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 11:44 AM |
#75 |
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Only because you are being so emphatic I will disagree |
Tom Rinaldo |
Nov-27-05 12:05 PM |
#84 |
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If I had thought Kerry was the most electable I would have supported him.. |
Kahuna |
Nov-27-05 11:48 AM |
#76 |
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I might get some flames from some Kerry supporters for this |
Tom Rinaldo |
Nov-27-05 11:52 AM |
#80 |
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He wasn't. He was selected as the most likely candidate to |
ladjf |
Nov-27-05 12:06 PM |
#85 |
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Except Kerry weighed in against corporate media first, so where does that |
blm |
Nov-27-05 01:21 PM |
#101 |
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He was far from my 1st choice. I worked hard for him nonetheless |
MyPetRock |
Nov-27-05 12:07 PM |
#86 |
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He won the primaries.... |
MrBenchley |
Nov-27-05 01:03 PM |
#96 |
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Ill tell YOU what... |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 01:26 PM |
#103 |
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I don't see a lot of incentive |
MrBenchley |
Nov-27-05 01:52 PM |
#106 |
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Thanks for playing into the hands of Bush and the GOP |
politicasista |
Nov-27-05 01:25 PM |
#102 |
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Thanks for the insightful comment. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 01:28 PM |
#105 |
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That is a way for some to justify the fact that he beat other candidates |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 02:54 PM |
#111 |
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Oh, I know what Im talking about. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 02:57 PM |
#114 |
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You just proved you dont know how the Senate works |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 03:01 PM |
#117 |
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Since your using the senate process as a scapegoat to defend |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 03:31 PM |
#119 |
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I posted what he did in my post. |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 03:32 PM |
#120 |
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Nov-27-05 04:02 PM |
#122 |
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No need to get insulting. We are all on the same team here. nt |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 04:34 PM |
#125 |
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Are we? I may be missing something. |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 04:37 PM |
#127 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-27-05 05:04 PM |
#129 |
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Simmer...simmer down. |
Dances with Cats |
Nov-27-05 05:34 PM |
#132 |
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I guess the same person |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 06:29 PM |
#139 |
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Strangely, I dont think somebody who says my junior senator |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 06:59 PM |
#145 |
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Nov-27-05 06:14 PM |
#137 |
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Well, SCHIP is pretty major. |
MH1 |
Nov-27-05 07:13 PM |
#147 |
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Microloan program. Women's business centers. |
MH1 |
Nov-27-05 07:18 PM |
#148 |
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The OP doesn't think tracking of terror funding was an important bill |
blm |
Nov-28-05 02:08 PM |
#178 |
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Lifted trade embargo with Vietnam and normalized relations. |
MH1 |
Nov-27-05 07:21 PM |
#150 |
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But with regards to this, shouldn't the Dean supporters, see the value |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 03:06 PM |
#186 |
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Your mistake is that you confuse NAMING bills with AUTHORING bills. |
blm |
Nov-28-05 07:55 PM |
#205 |
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Kerry was elected in the primary by the media, not the people. |
dfgrbac |
Nov-27-05 02:54 PM |
#112 |
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LOL, This is so false that I have to read. |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 02:57 PM |
#113 |
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I thought Hillary was the front runner? |
ProSense |
Nov-27-05 02:58 PM |
#115 |
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Actually no - unless you aren't calling the caucus votes, votes |
karynnj |
Nov-28-05 03:09 PM |
#188 |
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You're right. I didn't include the caucus votes. |
dfgrbac |
Nov-28-05 05:05 PM |
#197 |
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Electability is nonsense. |
ContraBass Black |
Nov-27-05 04:23 PM |
#123 |
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It depends on who "we" is. |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 04:33 PM |
#124 |
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With a REAL media and secure voting machines ANY Dem is electable. |
blm |
Nov-27-05 06:00 PM |
#135 |
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Tell that to Dukakis, Mondale, McGovern, |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 06:36 PM |
#141 |
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I'm referring specifically to current GOP offerings. If media told the |
blm |
Nov-28-05 09:49 AM |
#175 |
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We have to get dems elected with the media we have, not the media we want. |
skipos |
Nov-28-05 06:01 PM |
#199 |
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The takeover of the media was a deliberate move by the RW machine. |
blm |
Nov-28-05 07:59 PM |
#206 |
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Look at who owns the Media Industrial Complex and there's your answer. |
shance |
Nov-27-05 04:35 PM |
#126 |
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Iowa caucuses |
Dances with Cats |
Nov-27-05 05:26 PM |
#131 |
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Kerry was the most electable of those who ran. |
Neil Lisst |
Nov-27-05 05:42 PM |
#133 |
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I respect your opinion, however, I disagree that the other candidates |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 06:22 PM |
#138 |
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I agree with you... |
Dances with Cats |
Nov-27-05 06:30 PM |
#140 |
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You aren't asking me but |
skipos |
Nov-27-05 07:00 PM |
#146 |
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Thanks! |
Dances with Cats |
Nov-27-05 07:19 PM |
#149 |
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Clark was too new to the party at the time, Edwards might have |
Neil Lisst |
Nov-27-05 06:40 PM |
#142 |
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I have to disagree with that. I have always been very disappointed by |
Mass |
Nov-27-05 06:48 PM |
#144 |
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Funny, when Walter Shapiro followed the Dem candidates for a year he |
blm |
Nov-28-05 02:14 PM |
#179 |
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HE WASN'T |
UDenver20 |
Nov-27-05 06:41 PM |
#143 |
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Don't forget Dean |
YoungDemocrat |
Nov-27-05 09:55 PM |
#155 |
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Your taking shots at Kerry to promote your guy. |
wisteria |
Nov-27-05 10:15 PM |
#157 |
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Not true. See post # 6. |
nickshepDEM |
Nov-27-05 10:22 PM |
#158 |
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I stand by my remarks, I think as I stated before that Kerry was |
wisteria |
Nov-27-05 10:49 PM |
#163 |
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It was ABB - Anybody But Bunkerboy and they thought his veteran pedegree |
TankLV |
Nov-27-05 11:40 PM |
#165 |
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Nobody knows what "electable' means. |
Lexingtonian |
Nov-28-05 12:30 AM |
#167 |
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Sorely lacking here at DU is reality-based analysis - Grazie Lexingtonian. |
blm |
Nov-28-05 09:41 AM |
#174 |
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The election was stolen |
ProSense |
Nov-28-05 08:51 AM |
#171 |
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Are you trying to tell us that Warner is electable? Too bad, I dont go |
Mass |
Nov-28-05 08:56 AM |
#172 |
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Dean was the most electable |
enough already |
Nov-28-05 02:34 PM |
#183 |
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I agree fully with you. They did what they could to kill Kerry. |
Mass |
Nov-28-05 03:07 PM |
#187 |
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You're right, he never was. |
emcguffie |
Nov-28-05 06:08 PM |
#200 |
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Kerry's Senate record mediocre? |
frogmarch |
Nov-28-05 06:44 PM |
#202 |
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And everyday |
ProSense |
Nov-28-05 08:40 PM |
#207 |
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Kerry has superior leadership qualities and a stellar Senate record. |
wisteria |
Nov-28-05 10:35 PM |
#208 |
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Yes, damn right Kerry was a good candidate and he just about made it so. |
second edition |
Nov-29-05 09:18 AM |
#209 |
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