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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:30 PM
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53. OMG -- you really don't live in America 2005, do you?
Yup, it's that f*cking slut's fault for not keeping her legs crossed -- she shouldn't have seduced the poor guy... the least she can do is show him she loves him by having his baby, no matter what.....

You do realize these are all RW talking points, right? You seem like a really articulate, smart guy.... it's too bad you're not educated on the reality of this more. Maybe you don't want to be. I don't know.

No one on here are sexist against men or man haters. That is also a RW meme. That's one way women keep on being beaten down.... and it works, huh? I'm not debating this with you, because there's nothing to be debated. This thread has gotten way out of hand.

A woman has a right to make her own decision about her body; it's her legal and ethical right.
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  -abortion rights / child support question skipos  Oct-31-05 07:39 PM   #0 
  - I don't know!  Rainscents   Oct-31-05 07:41 PM   #1 
  - Yes. The rights of the mother are over her body and they are separate  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 07:43 PM   #2 
  - Thank you, that is the best way of answering the question. n/t  Bunny   Oct-31-05 08:00 PM   #18 
  - if the mother "chooses" to keep the child and the father  formernaderite   Nov-02-05 09:01 AM   #99 
  - My opinion is that the woman is making the bigger  rosesaylavee   Oct-31-05 07:43 PM   #3 
  - The day a male can carry a fetus to term over nine months and pass it  Walt Starr   Oct-31-05 07:43 PM   #4 
  - Hey, nice imagery, Walt. n/t  rosesaylavee   Oct-31-05 07:44 PM   #6 
  - Graphic -- but quite apt.  Hekate   Nov-03-05 04:01 AM   #114 
  - Giving birth has many complications. Can be life threatening. No one  kikiek   Oct-31-05 07:44 PM   #5 
  - Is it fair for men to strip women and sell them as sex slaves?  bloom   Oct-31-05 07:45 PM   #7 
  - It's THEIR fetus, but it's in HER womb and it will be HER pregnancy  rocknation   Oct-31-05 07:46 PM   #8 
  - hmmm  BoneDaddy   Oct-31-05 08:00 PM   #19 
     - It's a fetus at that point not a child. It is a child when it is viable  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:15 PM   #32 
     - Exactly, And until viability it is part of the woman's body  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:06 PM   #61 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-31-05 08:18 PM   #35 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-31-05 08:25 PM   #49 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-31-05 08:34 PM   #57 
           - Sexist BS if I've ever seen it.  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:15 PM   #63 
     - BoneDaddy..this is not a feminist position.  serryjw   Oct-31-05 08:25 PM   #46 
     - "Too many women try to trap men in this lifetime committment'  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:11 PM   #62 
        - Soory..I stand by my postion  serryjw   Oct-31-05 09:19 PM   #64 
        - It wouldn't be as big of a problem if women had equal rights  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:25 PM   #67 
        - This is jsut reactionary  serryjw   Oct-31-05 09:32 PM   #70 
           - If the man doesn't want to father a child he should take steps to make  kenzee13   Nov-03-05 05:50 AM   #116 
        - women should just stop having sex with men  bloom   Oct-31-05 09:30 PM   #69 
        - She can put the child up for adoption....  formernaderite   Nov-02-05 09:04 AM   #100 
     - It's their marriage and their problem  rocknation   Oct-31-05 08:32 PM   #56 
     - Nobody has the right to force another person to be an incubator.  Crunchy Frog   Oct-31-05 10:12 PM   #80 
     - So long as her body is required to support that fetus  JerseygirlCT   Nov-01-05 08:23 PM   #93 
     - A man has no right to control a woman's body. Period.  kenzee13   Nov-03-05 05:43 AM   #115 
  - So....  readmoreoften   Oct-31-05 07:46 PM   #9 
  - My cousin got pregnant when she was 16...  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 07:54 PM   #15 
     - Well, if you're the first to admit that he's the exception to the rule...  readmoreoften   Oct-31-05 08:20 PM   #37 
        - Women should not be forced to have babies...  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 08:25 PM   #48 
           - Of course there are, like my husband  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:19 PM   #65 
  - If the law is stacked against men, it's because pregnancy is, too.  calmblueocean   Oct-31-05 07:47 PM   #10 
  - It's absolutely wrong for a woman ever to be made  Crunchy Frog   Oct-31-05 07:47 PM   #11 
  - Child support is about the CHILD, not the woman  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:30 PM   #68 
     - I agree, and I'm not making a statement about what the policy  Crunchy Frog   Oct-31-05 10:06 PM   #78 
  - The law puts ALL of the responsibility, from a financial standpoint...  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 07:50 PM   #12 
  - I don't think you have a clue about what you are talking about  bloom   Oct-31-05 08:03 PM   #21 
  - Obviously the non-custodial parent doesn't have ALL of the responsibility.  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 08:10 PM   #25 
     - Because visitation and support are not the same thing  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:13 PM   # 
     - Would you rather I pay for a child that you have with another woman?  bloom   Oct-31-05 08:21 PM   #38 
     - Significant??? Everyone woman I know ho gets child support  LostinVA   Oct-31-05 08:23 PM   #44 
  - For good reason...97% of all sex offenders are hetero males  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:08 PM   #22 
  - Now what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING?  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 08:13 PM   #28 
  - We already don't agree on anything  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:14 PM   #30 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-31-05 08:19 PM   #36 
        - thought you wanted to keep this civil?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:22 PM   #40 
           - First of all, that wasn't me.  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 08:23 PM   #43 
              - Not what I said but feel free to vent  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:25 PM   #47 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-05 06:39 PM   #87 
     - flaming is not permitted here  Beaverhausen   Nov-01-05 06:49 PM   #89 
  - What on earth are you talking about?  readmoreoften   Oct-31-05 08:23 PM   #42 
  - Funny you should say this  serryjw   Oct-31-05 08:31 PM   #55 
  - WHAT?  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:35 PM   #71 
  - "an ingrained, institutional discriminatory sexism"  jane_pippin   Oct-31-05 10:17 PM   #81 
  - he coulda kept his legs crossed, doubled up on the barrier methods.....  bettyellen   Oct-31-05 07:51 PM   #13 
  - SHE could have kept her legs crossed, used a female condom, and spermicide  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 07:59 PM   #17 
  - No I wouldn't agree.  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:10 PM   #23 
  - my point was that he is- or could have been- equally responsible  bettyellen   Oct-31-05 08:11 PM   #26 
  - Notice I didn't weigh in one way or the other wrt the abortion question.  MojoXN   Oct-31-05 08:16 PM   #33 
     - to be honest, i've seen this from both sides in a scary way-  bettyellen   Oct-31-05 08:31 PM   #54 
  - maybe he should've kept his legs crossed  WindRavenX   Oct-31-05 08:26 PM   #50 
  - OMG -- you really don't live in America 2005, do you?  LostinVA   Oct-31-05 08:30 PM   #53 
  - Ever heard of condoms?  rocknation   Oct-31-05 08:38 PM   #58 
     - Get Real  BoneDaddy   Nov-01-05 06:36 PM   #86 
  - What if the condom he used broke?  Zhade   Oct-31-05 08:01 PM   #20 
     - Sue Trojan  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:10 PM   #24 
     - i said double up, that means spermicide, making sure she has a diaphram.  bettyellen   Oct-31-05 08:13 PM   #29 
     - Considering how this argument keeps slipping back  Selteri   Oct-31-05 09:38 PM   #72 
  - I wouldn't call it "fair," but that's the way that the rights of  BullGooseLoony   Oct-31-05 07:51 PM   #14 
  - "Other"  Dr_eldritch   Oct-31-05 07:58 PM   #16 
  - Parental rights can be terminated by mutual consent provided the  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:12 PM   #27 
     - "mutual consent" means  Dr_eldritch   Oct-31-05 08:14 PM   #31 
     - Not at all true. She can not unilaterally terminate his rights to  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:16 PM   #34 
     - Right, but she neither has to agree  Dr_eldritch   Oct-31-05 08:21 PM   #39 
        - So are you saying if the woman does not wish to see a man that abused  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 08:24 PM   #45 
           - No, you are reading too far into it...  Dr_eldritch   Oct-31-05 09:46 PM   #75 
              - No. I think you have now said twice that you think it is unjust that the  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 10:32 PM   #83 
                 - Well ok...  Dr_eldritch   Oct-31-05 11:34 PM   #85 
     - Keep his money, What sexist bs, The money is for the CHILD. n/t  ultraist   Oct-31-05 09:41 PM   #74 
     - Wouldn't it be nice if that were always the case.  Dr_eldritch   Oct-31-05 10:00 PM   #77 
     - "Welfare of the child" means that it's the baby's right to have  BullGooseLoony   Oct-31-05 09:51 PM   #76 
        - I don't agree with that  Yupster   Nov-03-05 12:37 AM   #112 
     - The man can cause his parental rights to be terminated and then  No Exit   Nov-03-05 01:34 AM   #113 
  - She claiming her her right to refuse to provide service.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-31-05 08:22 PM   #41 
  - These are two very different issues  dsc   Oct-31-05 08:26 PM   #51 
  - Her body...her choice  cynatnite   Oct-31-05 08:29 PM   #52 
  - Why do we have a court system?  flaminbats   Oct-31-05 08:59 PM   #59 
  - The way that is worded, no, but it's a slippery slope  Selteri   Oct-31-05 09:02 PM   #60 
  - I think she should take it out right away and give it to him.  Ilsa   Oct-31-05 09:21 PM   #66 
  - A civil thread about child support / abortion?  LincolnMcGrath   Oct-31-05 09:39 PM   #73 
  - I'm really getting tired...  Llewlladdwr   Oct-31-05 10:08 PM   #79 
  - Male body, male choice,  sandnsea   Oct-31-05 10:27 PM   #82 
  - bs  BoneDaddy   Nov-01-05 06:43 PM   #88 
     - Men = no responsibility  sandnsea   Nov-02-05 02:02 AM   #96 
        - selective awareness  BoneDaddy   Nov-02-05 08:07 AM   #97 
           - Babies happen to MEN too  sandnsea   Nov-02-05 04:00 PM   #102 
  - Then conceive and carry  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-31-05 10:33 PM   #84 
  - My reasoning.  uppityperson   Nov-01-05 07:26 PM   #90 
  - That lawsuit WAS HORRID and disgusting  kineta   Nov-01-05 07:34 PM   #91 
  - There are also many, many cases of courts  Yupster   Nov-02-05 10:06 AM   #101 
     - There are far more cases of fathers skipping out on their responsibilities  Beaverhausen   Nov-02-05 04:07 PM   #103 
        - The difference is that the guy who runs out on his  Yupster   Nov-02-05 04:53 PM   #104 
           - Not always -believe it or not this actually happened to my boyfriend  Beaverhausen   Nov-02-05 05:02 PM   #105 
              - The law is different state by state  Yupster   Nov-02-05 05:44 PM   #106 
                 - Yes my boyfriend was married to the mother - this was about 12 years ago  Beaverhausen   Nov-02-05 05:52 PM   #107 
                    - Here's a link to the case  Yupster   Nov-02-05 09:44 PM   #109 
  - What we don't know is what the relationship was between the two  LynneSin   Nov-01-05 07:40 PM   #92 
  - This topic has come up many times before  Yupster   Nov-01-05 10:52 PM   #94 
  - Hey Yupster  Holloween   Nov-02-05 06:28 PM   #108 
  - Thank you and  Yupster   Nov-02-05 09:46 PM   #110 
  - That makes some sense to me, and it would be ideal  sepia_steel   Nov-03-05 06:50 AM   #119 
  - I believe it should be the legal right of the mother  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-01-05 11:13 PM   #95 
  - Yet another reason for men to practice safe sex.  Bridget Burke   Nov-02-05 08:27 AM   #98 
  - Ideally this would have been talked about before the sex act.  DanCa   Nov-02-05 09:50 PM   #111 
  - Right.  sepia_steel   Nov-03-05 06:41 AM   #118 
  - Although I voted 'not fair'  sepia_steel   Nov-03-05 06:23 AM   #117 
  - I'll try this again  verdalaven   Nov-03-05 07:37 AM   #120 

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