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82. Interesting and it also makes one wonder what they
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 04:07 PM by Humor_In_Cuneiform
believe about other things, living or otherwise in the universe.

The universe is incredibly complex in almost all ways when examined in sufficient detail, ie microscopically for the cellular or molecular structure. Telescopes etc for the distant and large planets, stars, galaxies, nebulae that inhabit space.

So just how much of that complexity and beauty do they attribute to the "intelligent designer?"

All? Only the current human state? Or some but not all of the universe.

And why don't they just accept that whatever causal forces exist in the universe are one and the same in some sense.

Evolution happens, and why can't they believe that is part of the overall "intelligent design?"

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  -How many people here actually believe in the theory of evolution? genius  Oct-12-05 11:15 PM   #0 
  - well, I do tend to believe, but then the rethuglicans, like bush, tend to  niyad   Oct-12-05 11:16 PM   #1 
  - Most reasonable explanation ...  Trajan   Oct-12-05 11:16 PM   #2 
  - Absolutely  frogmarch   Oct-12-05 11:20 PM   #8 
     - Way cool graphics dealy.  daninthemoon   Oct-12-05 11:31 PM   #23 
     - Lovely! I believe!  McCamy Taylor   Oct-13-05 09:19 AM   #55 
  - People that believe in evolution do not call it a theory n/t  firefox   Oct-12-05 11:16 PM   #3 
  - Right on  Carla in Ca   Oct-12-05 11:21 PM   #11 
  - the catholics don't have a problem with dinosaurs  tocqueville   Oct-12-05 11:28 PM   #20 
  - Thank you for explaining that  Carla in Ca   Oct-12-05 11:48 PM   #31 
  - Same as mainstream Protestants who read  JDPriestly   Oct-14-05 12:59 AM   #110 
  - The Catholic Church came to terms with evolution many years ago.  bklyncowgirl   Oct-13-05 06:06 AM   #48 
  - However, scientists who believe in evolution do call it a theory  Psephos   Oct-12-05 11:23 PM   #13 
  - In this case, "theory" is used to mean a coherent system  Demoiselle   Oct-13-05 03:07 PM   #76 
     - I rather like your soapbox :-) nt  Psephos   Oct-13-05 03:09 PM   #78 
  - People who know evolution to be a fact  China_cat   Oct-12-05 11:27 PM   #17 
  - Gravity is a reality ...  Trajan   Oct-12-05 11:32 PM   #24 
  - Perhaps you are being ironic,  Admiral Loinpresser   Oct-13-05 12:13 AM   #38 
  - There is the fact and the theory.  bowens43   Oct-13-05 06:43 AM   #51 
  - Two separate things. Evolution, itself, is a FACT. The Theory involves HOW  Roland99   Oct-13-05 07:36 PM   #90 
  - "Believe in" evolution?  Birthmark   Oct-12-05 11:17 PM   #4 
  - Is that the theory of gravity? n/t  firefox   Oct-12-05 11:56 PM   #34 
     - Yup.  Birthmark   Oct-13-05 12:34 AM   #41 
  - it's not a matter for belief or disbelief  tk2kewl   Oct-12-05 11:17 PM   #5 
  - ^^what he said  WindRavenX   Oct-12-05 11:18 PM   #6 
  - Actually, it has never been proven and is usually fails the tests.  genius   Oct-12-05 11:21 PM   #9 
  - no, it's that's not why it "fails"  WindRavenX   Oct-12-05 11:24 PM   #14 
  - Small changes accumulating over time is a very small part of evolution  HereSince1628   Oct-13-05 07:09 PM   #88 
  - And I suppose ID would be a static theory with no new ideas, ever?  Dr Fate   Oct-13-05 01:58 PM   #64 
  - I'm sorry buddy, but this is a lie  DinoBoy   Oct-13-05 02:39 PM   #70 
  - hmm yes. as opposed to religion. Now I see your point.  bee   Oct-13-05 03:38 PM   #83 
  - That sounds a bit like the fundies' views on God  ChoralScholar   Oct-13-05 09:40 AM   #58 
     - 'cept one has evidence the other does not  tk2kewl   Oct-13-05 03:25 PM   #79 
  - Actually, evolution isn't a theory  gratuitous   Oct-12-05 11:19 PM   #7 
  - I have a response to that.  genius   Oct-12-05 11:28 PM   #21 
  - Species don't evolve from one to another  WindRavenX   Oct-12-05 11:34 PM   #26 
  - You are entitled to your theory.  genius   Oct-12-05 11:37 PM   #27 
  - No, it's not just a theory  WindRavenX   Oct-12-05 11:41 PM   #28 
  - But your can't have your own facts. You have to share facts.  buddysmellgood   Oct-14-05 12:24 AM   #108 
  - The way I learned it, there have been some evolutionary dead-ends  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Oct-13-05 03:22 AM   #47 
  - But if that common ancestor was an ape  muriel_volestrangler   Oct-13-05 09:49 AM   #60 
     - yes we are still "ape"  WindRavenX   Oct-13-05 01:52 PM   #62 
     - So by the same theory  Tom Bombadil   Oct-14-05 09:03 AM   #115 
     - Yep we're among the Great Apes with only a small  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Oct-13-05 03:25 PM   #80 
  - The reason you dont want to argue it is because you are wrong. n/t  Dr Fate   Oct-13-05 02:05 PM   #66 
  - Speciation HAS been observed  DinoBoy   Oct-13-05 02:45 PM   #71 
  - That's my answer, too.  progressive_realist   Oct-12-05 11:34 PM   #25 
  - Yes. I also believe in gay marriage and abortion rights.  CarbonDate   Oct-12-05 11:21 PM   #10 
  - "Then why are there still monkeys and apes on earth, huh?"  mestup   Oct-12-05 11:21 PM   #12 
  - Tell him, "Well GIVE 'em a few years, huh?"  Vickers   Oct-12-05 11:24 PM   #15 
  - Did you ask him how a Chimp got in the White House?  AntiCoup2K4   Oct-12-05 11:42 PM   #30 
  - Why are there still Englishmen?  Bernardo de La Paz   Oct-13-05 12:50 AM   #44 
  - You don't believe or not believe in evolution.  rfrrfrrfr   Oct-13-05 07:23 PM   #89 
  - OMFG! You are kidding right?  fiziwig   Oct-12-05 11:25 PM   #16 
  - It's pretty obvious  TheFarseer   Oct-12-05 11:27 PM   #18 
  - Evolution is a fact.  amBushed   Oct-12-05 11:27 PM   #19 
  - Exactly.  wiley   Oct-12-05 11:58 PM   #35 
  - you might want to  Lexingtonian   Oct-12-05 11:31 PM   #22 
  - How sad  ochazuke   Oct-12-05 11:41 PM   #29 
  - Primates is a better word, but then again some fundy may think we  mrdmk   Oct-13-05 11:35 PM   #104 
  - It's the reality and fact based party verses the party of make believe.  norml   Oct-12-05 11:51 PM   #32 
  - Letter on Intelligent Design I sent to Des Moines Register  Hardrada   Oct-12-05 11:53 PM   #33 
  - Fundies believe that Noah had dinosaurs in his Ark  IndianaGreen   Oct-13-05 12:02 AM   #36 
  - No, they were too big to fit!  Bridget Burke   Oct-13-05 02:48 PM   #73 
  - Yes, we are the party open-mindedness.  Clarkie1   Oct-13-05 12:04 AM   #37 
  - Defender's Guide  frogmarch   Oct-13-05 12:15 AM   #39 
     - Any explanation that includes two chapters like  ET Awful   Oct-13-05 07:01 AM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-05 12:18 AM   #40 
  - It's a law of nature not a theory.  The_Casual_Observer   Oct-13-05 12:40 AM   #42 
  - nah, don't believe in anything  dweller   Oct-13-05 12:41 AM   #43 
  - I'm A Democrat, A Christian, and I believe that Evolution is Fact...  BlueCaliDem04   Oct-13-05 12:56 AM   #45 
  - While I voted for believing the theory of evolution...  Solon   Oct-13-05 01:09 AM   #46 
  - What else is there, besides fairy tales?  0007   Oct-13-05 06:10 AM   #49 
  - There is FACT of evolution and there is the Theory of evolution.  bowens43   Oct-13-05 06:41 AM   #50 
  - And the Theory continues to evolve.  Bridget Burke   Oct-13-05 02:58 PM   #75 
  - Give me 3 days, some bacteria, and a petri dish  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-13-05 07:01 AM   #53 
  - Exactly- changes in gene frequencies is an observable fact.  Dr Fate   Oct-13-05 01:59 PM   #65 
  - What causes the change of seasons on earth?  HopeLives   Oct-13-05 09:13 AM   #54 
  - I 'believe' in it, the same way I 'believe' in gravity  nickinSTL   Oct-13-05 09:35 AM   #56 
  - I believe wholeheartedly the idea  ChoralScholar   Oct-13-05 09:38 AM   #57 
  - If people can breed dogs and other animals to get the best qualities  Mountainman   Oct-13-05 09:40 AM   #59 
  - I think we should keep this going  Hardrada   Oct-13-05 01:22 PM   #61 
  - Supporting actual science is a stereotype I'll gladly accept. n/t  Dr Fate   Oct-13-05 01:56 PM   #63 
  - Oh geeeees  mrcheerful   Oct-13-05 02:31 PM   #69 
  - There's a basic flaw with the question itself  derby378   Oct-13-05 02:09 PM   #67 
  - It seems that there are three basic and irrefutable premises  GumboYaYa   Oct-13-05 02:11 PM   #68 
  - Interesting and it also makes one wonder what they  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Oct-13-05 03:36 PM   #82 
  - I believe what the Govt believes.  HR_Pufnstuf   Oct-13-05 02:47 PM   #72 
  - "Lucy in the Sky", my contribution here:  Catchawave   Oct-13-05 02:49 PM   #74 
  - It's a fact actually and not a theory.  shance   Oct-13-05 03:07 PM   #77 
  - who doesnt? thats what I want to know. n/t  bee   Oct-13-05 03:26 PM   #81 
  - I am a biologist  Zodiak Ironfist   Oct-13-05 06:26 PM   #84 
  - Why do you say believe?  judy from nj   Oct-13-05 06:33 PM   #85 
  - Long confirmed scientifically. Unquestionably so.  Metta   Oct-13-05 06:41 PM   #86 
  - A fact or a theory...  hiabrill   Oct-13-05 07:07 PM   #87 
     - Thats because they didn't really evolve from a different species.  mrcheerful   Oct-13-05 09:57 PM   #92 
     - The role of science is not to "prove".......  biggles1   Oct-13-05 09:59 PM   #93 
  - I believe that the empirical evidence for evolution is overwhelming.  Crunchy Frog   Oct-13-05 09:56 PM   #91 
  - How interesting  Humor_In_Cuneiform   Oct-14-05 12:23 AM   #107 
     - I'm not sure exactly how it works.  Crunchy Frog   Oct-14-05 08:18 PM   #117 
  - I'm a Taoist, and the Tao Te Ching says  johnaries   Oct-13-05 10:05 PM   #94 
  - Absolutely not! Everyone knows the Flying Spaghetti Monster  Ladyhawk   Oct-13-05 10:13 PM   #95 
  - Looks like we got 10 Freepers. I can't imagine any Demos could  Auntie Bush   Oct-13-05 10:18 PM   #96 
  - Actually, according to statistics that I've seen,  Crunchy Frog   Oct-13-05 11:30 PM   #103 
  - Voted yes, but it isn't a bellief  mandyky   Oct-13-05 10:19 PM   #97 
  - We Witness Evolution Every Day.  CrackpotAmerica   Oct-13-05 10:20 PM   #98 
  - How many people here actually believe in the theory of vaginal birth?  Czolgosz   Oct-13-05 10:34 PM   #99 
  - New evidence for the FSM theory. I may have spoken too soon  Crunchy Frog   Oct-13-05 10:36 PM   #100 
  - poem  frogmarch   Oct-13-05 10:40 PM   #101 
  - Ramen! In the name of the Pasta, the Sauce and the Holy Meatballs! n/t  Ladyhawk   Oct-13-05 10:49 PM   #102 
  - I believe in the fact of evolution  gristy   Oct-13-05 11:41 PM   #105 
  - Believe is a word for religion. Your question should be, How many can  buddysmellgood   Oct-14-05 12:09 AM   #106 
  - Evolution is only a fact of life..  flaminbats   Oct-14-05 12:36 AM   #109 
  - I was touched by His Noodley Appendage  DaveColorado   Oct-14-05 01:08 AM   #111 
  - I voted yes.  pookieblue   Oct-14-05 03:51 AM   #112 
  - "All About Dinosaurs" by Roy Chapman Andrews...  Bridget Burke   Oct-14-05 07:04 AM   #113 
  - Wow, at time of this post...  Northwind   Oct-14-05 08:42 AM   #114 
  - I'm glad to see that...  catabryna   Oct-14-05 09:31 AM   #116 
  - Evolution is a fact.  AX10   Oct-14-05 11:27 PM   #118 

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