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Response to Reply #184
189. Perhaps you just need to be more informed about Kerry's efforts
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:19 PM by zulchzulu
You wrote:

"The fact that he appeared to be invisible shortly after the election, showing no opposition to the obvious cases of election abuse, particularly in Ohio justified my opinion that he wasn't too active. If anything, my remark showed considerable restraint. Many of us were very disappointed by what seemed to be his unwillingness to fight for the Democratic cause."

OK, maybe I'll do some homework for you. Here are some links that prove without a doubt that you have need to read and listen to. Here are some links to what Kerry (and Edwards) have been doing since the Election. You can find more related speeches, proposals and other issues related to the Election and MANY other issues here:

You can hear Kerry talk about strategies on November 7th here:

Other articles include:

Kerry campaign recount

Recount efforts by Kerry in Ohio

Kerry pushes for election reform

Recount efforts intensify

The Perfect Election Day Crime

What Went Wrong In Ohio

Conyers Proud of Kerry/Edwards for Staying Involved in Voter Fraud Issue

Maybe you didn't read this from John Conyers:

"Fighting for Every Voter"

A few more words about an issue that is of the utmost importance to me. As political candidates, we spend considerable time and effort every election cycle fighting for votes...

A few more words about an issue that is of the utmost importance to me.

As political candidates, we spend considerable time and effort every election cycle fighting for votes. After the election, whether won or lost, many candidates leave the irregularities of the election behind. But we owe the voters more than that. When voters are disenfrachised, we owe it to them to seek justice and expose the truth. That is why I have been so proud of the Kerry-Edwards campaign's ongoing involvement in the investigation and litigation of what went wrong in Ohio. I wrote to the candidates recently to ask that they continue to be involved in this important endeavor.

This is not about the past. It is about figuring out what went wrong and why -- and then getting the next election right, not for the Democratic Party, but for all of the voters."
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  -A Kerry/Gore, Gore/Kerry ticket - odds? Skip Intro  Oct-09-05 09:24 PM   #0 
  - No problem, I wonder aloud like that all the time  Catch22Dem   Oct-09-05 09:28 PM   #1 
  - Me too  unlawflcombatnt   Oct-10-05 02:33 AM   #42 
  - No. Won't fly. It's one or the other.  PaulHo   Oct-09-05 09:31 PM   #2 
  - I understand what you are saying.  jayctravis   Oct-09-05 09:54 PM   #15 
  - The complexity of Kerry's style is both his strength....  PaulHo   Oct-09-05 10:17 PM   #23 
  - Excellent analysis of Kerry  Ferret Mike   Oct-11-05 10:54 AM   #180 
  - Kerry is "braver than any of could hope to be?"  Clarkie1   Oct-09-05 10:23 PM   #24 
     - You doubt Kerry's courage?  WildEyedLiberal   Oct-10-05 12:46 AM   #30 
     - I don't doubt it at all  WesDem   Oct-10-05 09:31 AM   #69 
     - Do you even know HALF of what he faced for 5 years in IranContra and BCCI?  blm   Oct-10-05 08:00 AM   #44 
     - THAT IS WHY I STILL AM TOO DISAPPOINTED to support Kerry again.  Overseas   Oct-12-05 08:45 AM   #231 
     - One of my brothers was in Viet Nam and he told me that anyone  MISSDem   Oct-10-05 01:04 PM   #113 
        - And he REQUESTED swiftboat duty at a time when casualty rate was over 70%  blm   Oct-10-05 01:30 PM   #116 
  - Yeah. I'm all into recycling.  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:57 PM   #142 
  - Zero! Why can't you people forget the people who've already lost?  napi21   Oct-09-05 09:31 PM   #3 
  - very . dirty . GAME. now you're getting it  wildhorses   Oct-09-05 09:35 PM   #10 
  - Gore WON.....Kerry WON  we can do it   Oct-09-05 09:42 PM   #13 
  - No he didn't! You've got to remember, no matter how or why the vote  napi21   Oct-09-05 09:56 PM   #16 
     - it should matter most how people vote!  flaminbats   Oct-09-05 11:17 PM   #28 
     - That's true, BUT our system of gov't includes the electoral college.  napi21   Oct-10-05 12:42 AM   #29 
        - this should be a top campaign issue..  flaminbats   Oct-10-05 01:08 AM   #34 
     - Ok, if they did lose one way or the other why does that make it  wisteria   Oct-10-05 12:59 AM   #32 
     - Do you want a President that won by the votes or a President  DU me   Oct-10-05 01:00 PM   #112 
     - FAIR OR NOT??? it DOES matter.. WE CAN prove it..  Griffy   Oct-12-05 01:27 AM   #216 
  - We're not reliving political history, we're writing it. And if we stuck w/  Skip Intro   Oct-09-05 10:26 PM   #25 
  - Hasn't John Kerry  votesomemore   Oct-09-05 09:31 PM   #4 
  - Some of believe that Kerry won also  esvhicl   Oct-09-05 09:33 PM   #8 
  - Difference  votesomemore   Oct-09-05 09:52 PM   #14 
  - And Gore had half a million more votes than Bush. NT  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 10:19 AM   #80 
  - difference is Gore fought to defend it, Kerry refused to stand up ...  radio4progressives   Oct-09-05 09:57 PM   #17 
     - Kerry could have shouted, "I won! I won! I know it, I just know it."  Skip Intro   Oct-09-05 10:16 PM   #22 
     - Do you have proof of anything you just stated?  blm   Oct-10-05 08:05 AM   #45 
     - I don't forgive Al Gore  WesDem   Oct-10-05 09:43 AM   #72 
     - Look at what they are both doing since losing.  karynnj   Oct-10-05 11:19 AM   #96 
        - Well AND  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 11:34 PM   #144 
           - What exactly does this have to do with Gore and Kerry?  karynnj   Oct-11-05 08:50 AM   #168 
  - Unfair comparison between Gore and Kerry. Both ran under  wisteria   Oct-10-05 01:06 AM   #33 
     - I'm not changing my mind.  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 02:14 AM   #41 
        - Why? Usually only Republicans loathe the one man who has investigated  blm   Oct-10-05 08:07 AM   #46 
        - I've heard that tired old line before  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:20 AM   #48 
        - Truth is never old and tired. National Security archives are a great start  blm   Oct-10-05 08:29 AM   #51 
           - What have we done? Exactly?  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:34 AM   #53 
              - You misunderstood. I said I don't trust any Democrat who worked AGAINST  blm   Oct-10-05 08:44 AM   #56 
                 - Again. Can you cite any accomplishment?  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:48 AM   #58 
                    - You show disdain for the historic record as if it doesn't count.  blm   Oct-10-05 08:59 AM   #60 
                       - Indictments?  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 09:02 AM   #62 
                       - His efforts did help end three wars. Vietnam, Iran-Iraq, and he exposed  blm   Oct-10-05 09:25 AM   #67 
                       - I take issue  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 09:11 AM   #64 
                          - He forewarned us about terror in 1997. Media and the public didn't listen.  blm   Oct-10-05 09:22 AM   #65 
                             - I would side with you  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 09:24 AM   #66 
                             - You don't think media has a responsibility to inform the citizenry?  blm   Oct-10-05 09:29 AM   #68 
                                - I haven't said anything about media  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 09:41 AM   #70 
                                   - Kerry won his matchup with Bush DECISIVELY.  blm   Oct-10-05 09:49 AM   #74 
                                      - Did Kerry say one gd thing about voting machines  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 11:41 PM   #145 
                                         - I think you need to visit the National Security Archives and LEARN you  blm   Oct-11-05 04:05 PM   #195 
                                            - Um. no.  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 07:45 PM   #207 
                                            - Name the Democrat who is TODAY going after the machines PUBLICLY.  blm   Oct-12-05 07:37 AM   #223 
                                            - Obviously you can't?  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 08:13 AM   #224 
                                            - And where is the vocal or documented investigations they are leading  blm   Oct-12-05 08:20 AM   #226 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-12-05 08:30 AM   #228 
                                            - Then produce that evidence, And do try to reply to the actual post.  blm   Oct-12-05 08:39 AM   #230 
                                            - I didn't say I had evidence. Please pay attention to the entire thread.  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 08:53 AM   #232 
                                            - There is just no pleasing some people.  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 09:11 AM   #233 
                                            - I would gain information if you chose to deliver some in your posts.  blm   Oct-12-05 09:20 AM   #234 
                                            - In case you didn't notice  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 04:41 PM   #250 
                             - I have his book from 1997 on that subject: A New War  LittleClarkie   Oct-11-05 02:46 AM   #159 
        - So tell me oh wise one  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-11-05 02:34 AM   #155 
           - I believe he's learning about it in any we he can and that is why he and  blm   Oct-11-05 03:53 PM   #194 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-05 11:54 PM   #148 
           - Good point  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:07 AM   #153 
           - It's true a lot of us are not "good ole boys"  karynnj   Oct-11-05 09:15 AM   #170 
           - karrynnj: I will respond to your post with the presumption that  ladjf   Oct-11-05 10:58 AM   #182 
              - I will try to respond  karynnj   Oct-11-05 08:30 PM   #208 
                 - karrynnj: You have certainly proved at least one thing and that is  ladjf   Oct-12-05 09:53 AM   #235 
                    - I do understand and share your frustration with what Bush has done  karynnj   Oct-12-05 11:25 AM   #238 
                       - Obviously my writing skills are not good.  ladjf   Oct-12-05 11:36 AM   #240 
           - "Professional promoters with an agenda"...oh, really?  Der Blaue Engel   Oct-12-05 01:16 AM   #215 
  - I'd like it  Mr_King   Oct-09-05 09:31 PM   #5 
  - If ANYONE  votesomemore   Oct-09-05 09:32 PM   #7 
  - You don't put two stallions on one cart  melody   Oct-09-05 09:38 PM   #12 
  - Strange statement  serryjw   Oct-11-05 08:44 PM   #209 
  - Yes for Gore, Gore won and the election was stolen from him, Kerry No!  DU me   Oct-09-05 09:32 PM   #6 
  - Kerry won more votes than Gore. You can't compare election  wisteria   Oct-10-05 01:27 AM   #39 
  - Gore got ripped. Kerry layed down and rolled over.  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:24 AM   #50 
     - Exactly  DU me   Oct-10-05 12:55 PM   #110 
  - Ugh/Ugh.  A-Schwarzenegger   Oct-09-05 09:35 PM   #9 
  - Hmmm... If it's Kerry, it won't be Gore, and vice-versa.  longship   Oct-09-05 09:35 PM   #11 
  - Gore-Kerry, Gore-Clark, or Clark-Gore  Muddy Waters Guitar   Oct-09-05 09:58 PM   #18 
  - Oh ....... how ............ inspiring. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ  damntexdem   Oct-09-05 10:00 PM   #19 
  - And stupid.  BlueIris   Oct-10-05 01:19 AM   #38 
     - no - not pretty enough to be effective  kahleefornia   Oct-10-05 11:32 AM   #101 
        - Gore's actual charisma will trump the old theme.  Admiral Loinpresser   Oct-11-05 10:18 AM   #171 
  - Kerry just doesn't "have it"  Sarah Ibarruri   Oct-09-05 10:08 PM   #20 
  - Obviously,YOU didn't follow the campaign to closely, did you?  wisteria   Oct-10-05 01:17 AM   #37 
  - I knocked myself out for Kerry - never again  Sarah Ibarruri   Oct-10-05 10:17 AM   #79 
  - Exactly.  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 11:47 PM   #147 
  - Not me.  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:05 AM   #152 
  - He WON the election  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-11-05 02:57 AM   #162 
  - Why? Because the corporate media downplayed the Dem defense of those lies  blm   Oct-10-05 08:20 AM   #49 
  - Okay.  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:22 AM   #154 
  - He's bushies friend  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:32 AM   #52 
     - That is what normal people do  karynnj   Oct-10-05 04:24 PM   #127 
        - Maybe you weren't watching the same show  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:55 PM   #141 
  - I can't think of a worse ticket  tritsofme   Oct-09-05 10:10 PM   #21 
  - Well it's got north-south appeal  pox americana   Oct-09-05 10:29 PM   #26 
  - Aside from the fact  SheilaT   Oct-09-05 10:39 PM   #27 
  - Then there was 911  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:39 AM   #54 
     - Yeah - we all saw how YOU exposed the BFEE and their agenda  blm   Oct-10-05 08:50 AM   #59 
        - Am I a public servant?  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 09:00 AM   #61 
           - You have never read the congressional record, have you? You post as if  blm   Oct-10-05 09:42 AM   #71 
              - I had absolutely ZERO  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 09:52 AM   #75 
                 - He worked five years to stop it with little or no help even from Dems  blm   Oct-10-05 10:02 AM   #77 
                 - I dunno  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:22 AM   #81 
                    - He didn't backslap Bush at the debates, he DEFEATED BUSH DECISIVELY.  blm   Oct-10-05 10:37 AM   #87 
                       - okay  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:47 AM   #90 
                          - Deniers don't use facts to make their case, they deny those facts exist.  blm   Oct-10-05 11:04 AM   #92 
                             - I prefer real life  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 11:10 AM   #93 
                                - If real life's what the corporate media sez it is, then we've already lost  blm   Oct-10-05 11:17 AM   #95 
                                   - well. duh.  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 11:26 AM   #100 
                 - So which superhero do you support  karynnj   Oct-10-05 04:42 PM   #130 
                    - Thank you  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 01:58 AM   #149 
                       - Kerry was the only one willing to fight BCCI  karynnj   Oct-12-05 12:47 PM   #248 
  - I would love, love, love, a Gore/Kerry ticket  bunny planet   Oct-10-05 12:57 AM   #31 
  - I'm Still Hoping (Crossing Fingers) for a Gore/Clark Ticket...  BlueCaliDem04   Oct-12-05 11:45 AM   #243 
  - Two winners who don't stand up for themselves?  darkism   Oct-10-05 01:09 AM   #35 
  - Ditto .. nt  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:43 AM   #55 
  - I just...can't see either of those men agreeing to be a vice-president  BlueIris   Oct-10-05 01:15 AM   #36 
  - I want to see Kerry as President, but IMO he might be willing  wisteria   Oct-10-05 01:34 AM   #40 
  - No Kerry. No Skull and Boner. No one who voted to authorize  ladjf   Oct-10-05 07:40 AM   #43 
  - IWR would have prevented an invasion. Blame Bush for not implementing it  blm   Oct-10-05 08:15 AM   #47 
  - We are in for a long 2008  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 08:46 AM   #57 
  - Read Doonesbury?  zulchzulu   Oct-10-05 09:05 AM   #63 
     - No, I haven't read Doonesbury. And upon learning that the  ladjf   Oct-10-05 06:31 PM   #135 
     - You mean work for the middle class and poor like this guy?  zulchzulu   Oct-10-05 06:41 PM   #138 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-05 11:45 PM   #146 
           - And no one knows where he is now.  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:34 AM   #156 
           - If you play the "Lalalalala" Game and act like something doesn't exist...  zulchzulu   Oct-11-05 10:41 AM   #179 
           - You just need to pay attention...  zulchzulu   Oct-11-05 10:38 AM   #178 
           - zulchzulu: I'm really getting tired of this petty bickering with you  ladjf   Oct-11-05 11:08 AM   #184 
              - Perhaps you just need to be more informed about Kerry's efforts  zulchzulu   Oct-11-05 02:18 PM   #189 
                 - zulch: I believe that you and I have an irreconcilable difference  ladjf   Oct-11-05 03:41 PM   #193 
                 - Perhaps you can just look at the issues I brought up  zulchzulu   Oct-11-05 04:12 PM   #197 
                    - In the main, I am familiar with Kerry's past and present political  ladjf   Oct-11-05 06:40 PM   #204 
                       - So who do you back?  zulchzulu   Oct-11-05 10:10 PM   #213 
                 - Thanks. From one of your snips ~  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 05:42 PM   #251 
           - That's fine, but please don't tell untruths about him or his record.  blm   Oct-11-05 04:35 PM   #203 
     - for the tinfoil record, Trudeau wasn't a 'bonesman'  foo_bar   Oct-11-05 11:30 AM   #188 
  - I'll probably get killed for saying this, but No and No.  SunDrop23   Oct-10-05 09:44 AM   #73 
  - Why do we here at DU want to run known losers??  bowens43   Oct-10-05 09:55 AM   #76 
  - Bush was sold to the public as one of the greatest, most stoic presidents  blm   Oct-10-05 10:10 AM   #78 
  - So lessee  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:31 AM   #85 
     - Point is that media MADE Bush into a leading figure against terrorism.  blm   Oct-10-05 11:14 AM   #94 
  - A very strong man is needed to run against the Republican rats  Sarah Ibarruri   Oct-10-05 10:24 AM   #83 
  - Thank you for saying what I've been attempting to say on this  ladjf   Oct-12-05 10:00 AM   #236 
  - Agreed.  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:28 AM   #84 
  - Just adding my opinion  OnionPatch   Oct-10-05 10:23 AM   #82 
  - He doesn't frame. period. nt  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:33 AM   #86 
  - Good reasoning there, lets not go for someone really up for the  second edition   Oct-10-05 11:50 AM   #102 
     - That's not what the poster said. He/she was making the point that  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 12:05 PM   #103 
     - I just saw Kerry last month in NJ  karynnj   Oct-10-05 04:49 PM   #131 
        - Well, good for you, but you are hardly the entire electorate.  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 06:19 PM   #133 
           - That wasn't the point  karynnj   Oct-12-05 12:22 PM   #244 
     - I never said we should have a "dumbass" run!  OnionPatch   Oct-10-05 01:47 PM   #117 
  - They are both proven losers....  ArkDem   Oct-10-05 10:37 AM   #88 
  - Were you never given another shot at something once you lost?  second edition   Oct-10-05 12:05 PM   #104 
     - I'll stand by the accuracy of my statement. Unfortunately,  ArkDem   Oct-10-05 04:16 PM   #125 
     - No. Not really.  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:41 AM   #157 
  - Gore yes, Kerry no !!!!!!!!!!!  Doctor Panacea   Oct-10-05 10:40 AM   #89 
  - I sure have . nt  votesomemore   Oct-10-05 10:48 AM   #91 
  - Because John Kerry is NOT really a brilliant man and a good speaker  blm   Oct-10-05 11:20 AM   #97 
  - Quack Quack  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:45 AM   #158 
     - He helped end Vietnam, Iran-Iraq and exposed illegal war in Central Americ  blm   Oct-11-05 04:19 PM   #199 
        - I've read lots of Octafish's threads  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 07:23 PM   #205 
           - If you read them then you would know the RESULTS are the actual  blm   Oct-11-05 07:33 PM   #206 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-11-05 09:07 PM   #211 
                 - You've only assured this forum that you consider historical fact to be  blm   Oct-12-05 07:34 AM   #222 
                    - Yeah. I deal with reality.  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 08:19 AM   #225 
                       - I'll never give up truth or ethics to bend to media spin. History matters.  blm   Oct-12-05 08:26 AM   #227 
                          - See above.  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 08:34 AM   #229 
  - Not only have I had enough of Kerry...  AntiCoup2K4   Oct-10-05 01:12 PM   #114 
     - Yet you love some Dems who supported Reagan-Bush OVER Kerry. Interesting.  blm   Oct-10-05 02:00 PM   #120 
        - Don't ever accuse me of being a Republican  AntiCoup2K4   Oct-11-05 02:01 AM   #150 
        - I'm not, but if you were familiar with where some of your favorite  blm   Oct-11-05 04:14 PM   #198 
        - Reagan won 50.8% to Carter's 41% in 1980  skipos   Oct-11-05 08:40 AM   #167 
           - Sad thing about the media is that they refuse to give credit to any Dem  blm   Oct-11-05 04:33 PM   #202 
  - Two already-elected (though NOT innaugurated) Presidents...  zann725   Oct-10-05 11:22 AM   #98 
  - Just might fly, if you sold it as "Bush had 8 years-now let us fix things"  dback   Oct-10-05 11:23 AM   #99 
  - I would especially love to see Kerry run again.  second edition   Oct-10-05 12:10 PM   #105 
  - This thread should make clear  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:50 AM   #160 
     - If so, you have NO problem  karynnj   Oct-11-05 10:25 AM   #172 
  - Interesting idea but it wont happen  Mass   Oct-10-05 12:14 PM   #106 
  - Gore would be Pres. today if he'd picked Kerry for VP in 2000  David Dunham   Oct-10-05 12:19 PM   #107 
  - nuff said eom.  politicasista   Oct-10-05 12:27 PM   #108 
  - How do you figure that? What states would he have helped in that Gore  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 12:47 PM   #109 
     - New Hampshire, possibly Ohio.  blm   Oct-10-05 01:27 PM   #115 
        - I'm not convinced that northeasterner Kerry as opposed to northeasterner  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 01:48 PM   #118 
           - Kerry had a great reputation in NH. It went beyond northeasterner bonds.  blm   Oct-10-05 01:56 PM   #119 
              - So if he had gained some vets votes, he might (without Lieberman) have  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 02:25 PM   #121 
                 - I'm not sure about that. Bush was actively courting Muslim votes in 2000.  blm   Oct-10-05 02:34 PM   #122 
                 - And would that only make a difference with  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 02:52 PM   #124 
                    - Not at all, just pointing out that Bush was actively pushing for Muslim  blm   Oct-10-05 04:33 PM   #129 
                 - The Jewish vote is highly Democratic to begin with  karynnj   Oct-10-05 04:59 PM   #132 
                    - Trying to push Kerry as a Jewish candidate is a preposterous stretch.  NYCGirl   Oct-10-05 06:22 PM   #134 
                    - Of course he's not Jewish  karynnj   Oct-11-05 10:30 AM   #176 
                       - Then why the hell did you bring it up? NT  NYCGirl   Oct-11-05 10:34 AM   #177 
                    - Sorry but.  votesomemore   Oct-11-05 02:56 AM   #161 
                       - Actually, yes he does  karynnj   Oct-11-05 10:27 AM   #174 
  - I would vote for either combination.  MISSDem   Oct-10-05 12:59 PM   #111 
  - Give me GORE/OBAMA  AtomicKitten   Oct-10-05 02:37 PM   #123 
  - Won't be John Kerry  mtnester   Oct-10-05 04:22 PM   #126 
  - Im liken a Kerry/Biden ticket.  sandrakae   Oct-10-05 04:32 PM   #128 
  - Biden would never stomach that  LittleClarkie   Oct-10-05 06:34 PM   #137 
     - America would never stomach that.  AntiCoup2K4   Oct-11-05 02:03 AM   #151 
  - I'd go for a Kerry ticket of any kind.  Kerry2008   Oct-10-05 06:31 PM   #136 
  - Didn't Nixon lose in '60 before he won in '68?  pox americana   Oct-10-05 09:35 PM   #139 
  - Yeah but there were a couple little assassinations in between.  A-Schwarzenegger   Oct-10-05 10:50 PM   #140 
  - Good grief you're right.  pox americana   Oct-11-05 02:47 PM   #192 
  - Yep, he sure did.  sandrakae   Oct-10-05 11:18 PM   #143 
     - Exactly. Maybe we should really try and be progressive  second edition   Oct-11-05 08:37 AM   #166 
  - I could easily see Gore as Prez.  leesa   Oct-11-05 07:55 AM   #163 
  - Many people voted against Bush, not for Kerry  skipos   Oct-11-05 08:10 AM   #164 
  - I think you overestimate the ABB votes and ignore Kerry's popularity.  second edition   Oct-11-05 08:23 AM   #165 
     - Maybe but  skipos   Oct-11-05 08:51 AM   #169 
        - SBV are already old news and that issue is dead in the water.  second edition   Oct-11-05 11:14 AM   #185 
        - The question also makes no sense  karynnj   Oct-11-05 08:56 PM   #210 
           - I know it is an imperfect question. it is still interesting.  skipos   Oct-11-05 09:26 PM   #212 
  - Heres my take....  Kerry2008   Oct-11-05 10:26 AM   #173 
  - Indeed. It all depends on the campaigns they run  LittleClarkie   Oct-11-05 04:32 PM   #201 
  - I can tell you what the Republican slogan will be already  quaoar   Oct-11-05 10:27 AM   #175 
  - I can't imagine the Repubs getting much traction from that  second edition   Oct-11-05 10:55 AM   #181 
     - Apparently you missed the Sore/Loserman bumperstickers  quaoar   Oct-11-05 11:06 AM   #183 
        - I don't understand how....  bgb217   Oct-11-05 11:17 AM   #186 
        - So, that's politics, doesn't mean most people take them seriously.  second edition   Oct-11-05 11:22 AM   #187 
  - No way  Tiggeroshii   Oct-11-05 02:29 PM   #190 
  - Zero. Unless all of a sudden either were in the news  question everything   Oct-11-05 02:37 PM   #191 
  - Kerry and Gore are still in the news.  second edition   Oct-11-05 04:09 PM   #196 
  - Read this, Sparky. Gore gets it.  NYCGirl   Oct-11-05 04:30 PM   #200 
  - 2006  paineinthearse   Oct-11-05 10:16 PM   #214 
  - I would vote for both together or either alone, I like both men  GetTheRightVote   Oct-12-05 01:27 AM   #217 
  - Watch this video.  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 03:40 AM   #218 
  - Read this and check the links and then tell me Kerry is doing nothing  zulchzulu   Oct-12-05 11:39 AM   #242 
  - leave Kerry out  jaded_at_best   Oct-12-05 05:14 AM   #219 
  - Welcome to DU  votesomemore   Oct-12-05 05:28 AM   #220 
  - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!  MarsThe Cat   Oct-12-05 05:35 AM   #221 
  - How about Gore and somebody who DIDN'T vote for IWR  lojasmo   Oct-12-05 10:53 AM   #237 
  - Kerry again is Ok with me. He continues to work hard for a better  second edition   Oct-12-05 11:34 AM   #239 
  - What makes anyone think Gore would serve as VP again?  AJH032   Oct-12-05 11:37 AM   #241 
  - From a perception angle.  momisold   Oct-12-05 12:27 PM   #245 
  - None. Kerry is damaged goods. The war you know.  Neshanic   Oct-12-05 12:35 PM   #246 
  - Nonsence, damaged goods, no way, he can over come this. n/t  second edition   Oct-12-05 12:45 PM   #247 
  - Is there any polling data on either as to their current popularity? n/t  bluedawg12   Oct-12-05 12:51 PM   #249 
  - I think it would be a mistake  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-12-05 07:16 PM   #252 

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