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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:17 PM
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30. The key isn't to try to screw all the diversity into a single sound byte
But to fashion a sound byte that covers all the diversity. Find a message that the diverse aspects of this party can look to and say, "Hey, you know, this guy isn't my guy 100%. But I can live with him because I know he stands for me best over all."

I understand what you are saying, I just don't know what to do about it. I also think that a lot of what we see here (please don't hurt me)on the DU does not in any way represent the vast majority of Democrats. I think the vast majority of Democrats just want to feel heard and have a basic 'we are all in this together' philosophy about the world. They are NOT one issue voters. They are lazy voters who will be attracted to an attractive, cohesive message that represents a platform that they can understand. So, yeah, we need a good message generating machine. We need candidates that are not 'lofty', if you know what I mean. A big part of Bush's appeal to voters is that they feel that he is approachable and 'just like them'. Why in god's name every Bubba in this country thinks that somebody just like them is qualified to run this country, I have NO idea. But they do.

The iron IS ripe for striking right now. But it needs to be struck with the right note. I don't really think we need to attack the GOP right now so much as we need to offer a foil for them. But to do that, we need a message that covers us, the Democratic Party, as a whole.
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  -What is wrong with the Democrats today? Really. This is a serious post Husb2Sparkly  Oct-05-05 09:57 AM   #0 
  - Um, the DNC chair IS the party leader.  crispini   Oct-05-05 09:58 AM   #1 
  - The primary role of the chair is party manager  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 10:02 AM   #2 
  - Well, if you mean "spokesman" then you should say "spokesman."  crispini   Oct-05-05 10:09 AM   #6 
     - This is turning into a marginal side discussion .... back to the .......  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 10:11 AM   #7 
        - I think the question is so broad, it's not a useful question.  crispini   Oct-05-05 10:27 AM   #17 
        - What's Wrong With The Democratic Party??????  ChiciB1   Oct-05-05 12:49 PM   #45 
  - The leaders have their party affiliation confused. Dean is OK.  genius   Oct-05-05 02:10 PM   #49 
  - Leadership is a big part, but I don't think it's all of it.  tasteblind   Oct-05-05 10:05 AM   #3 
  - While this smacks a bit of tinfoil ......  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 10:09 AM   #5 
  - I guarantee you Kerry is painfully aware of it.  tasteblind   Oct-05-05 10:16 AM   #8 
  - We need to start digging up dirt on them  rniel   Oct-05-05 02:56 PM   #58 
     - I'm not into fighting dirty so much as ensuring a fair fight.  tasteblind   Oct-07-05 09:42 AM   #74 
  - the republican oppression machine is well-oiled and pervasive.  Lerkfish   Oct-05-05 10:08 AM   #4 
  - There's a reason #3 Dems exist.  Vash the Stampede   Oct-05-05 10:28 AM   #18 
  - Good post. Democrats have been bullied to silence  Ishoutandscream2   Oct-05-05 10:34 AM   #19 
     - I think you hit one of the big issues - the Three Monkey Media  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 11:54 AM   #23 
     - Yep, you can lead all day, if you can't get air time, what good does it  renie408   Oct-05-05 11:57 AM   #24 
     - I'm actually prepared to say that there is *nothing* wrong with the Dems  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 12:15 PM   #29 
        - Yep, that it ...  Kickin_Donkey   Oct-05-05 02:52 PM   #56 
     - Ooops ... meant to rply elsewhere - please ignore this - n/t  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 12:13 PM   #28 
     - What other reaction?  kjwood   Oct-05-05 02:54 PM   #57 
  - Lack of ideas  Nederland   Oct-05-05 10:17 AM   #9 
  - Today, and for quite a while now  Asgaya Dihi   Oct-05-05 10:19 AM   #10 
  - The problem is the message....  CardInAustin   Oct-05-05 10:20 AM   #11 
  - it is message and  savemefromdumbya   Oct-05-05 10:26 AM   #16 
  - the root of all evil . . . including political evil . . . $$$$$$$$$$$ . .  OneBlueSky   Oct-05-05 10:23 AM   #12 
  - Democrats hate white people.  Dark   Oct-05-05 10:23 AM   #13 
  - Thinking too much -- to the point of paralysis and overrationalization  Armstead   Oct-05-05 10:25 AM   #14 
  - That's one of two enormous issues, the other is a biased media.  blondeatlast   Oct-05-05 05:09 PM   #62 
  - Very little evidence of guts, spine, balls...  Totally Committed   Oct-05-05 10:26 AM   #15 
  - "You asked."  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 11:57 AM   #25 
  - It IS a Lack of Leadership  Steely_Dan   Oct-05-05 10:40 AM   #20 
  - Your quote belies that leadership alone is not enough.  tasteblind   Oct-05-05 10:48 AM   #21 
  - I'll Kick This & I Think EXACTLY The Way You Do!!  ChiciB1   Oct-05-05 12:24 PM   #34 
  - I think its the same thing that is really RIGHT with the Democratic Party  renie408   Oct-05-05 10:51 AM   #22 
  - I agree with you ..... but .......  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 12:05 PM   #26 
  - The key isn't to try to screw all the diversity into a single sound byte  renie408   Oct-05-05 12:17 PM   #30 
     - Rereading that, the sound byte thing sounds pretty obscure  renie408   Oct-05-05 12:21 PM   #33 
        - That is exactly the kind of message we need .......  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 03:02 PM   #59 
  - Interesting....  CardInAustin   Oct-05-05 12:24 PM   #35 
  - I was thinking more of regular people I know  renie408   Oct-05-05 12:31 PM   #38 
  - That's very perceptive ..... excellent points, indeed  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 03:05 PM   #60 
  - Diversity is a negative when it becomes incoherence.  bklyncowgirl   Oct-05-05 01:09 PM   #47 
  - the right winged attack media that keeps making sure people  ray of light   Oct-05-05 12:10 PM   #27 
  - Thank you for telling me what's wrong with me  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 12:19 PM   #32 
  - He's got a point, though  renie408   Oct-05-05 12:25 PM   #36 
  - I roll a ton of ideas through my gray matter and it *always* comes back to  Husb2Sparkly   Oct-05-05 03:12 PM   #61 
  - ok..you can call me the idiot.  ray of light   Oct-05-05 12:26 PM   #37 
  - Looks Like My Post Got Under The Wrong Topic!  ChiciB1   Oct-05-05 01:15 PM   #48 
  - I Just Posted Almost The Same Thing Yesterday!!  ChiciB1   Oct-05-05 12:17 PM   #31 
  - Regarding Howard Dean  ray of light   Oct-05-05 12:31 PM   #39 
  - Need a Slogan  Indy Lurker   Oct-05-05 12:33 PM   #40 
  - Well, speaking for myself....oy.....  Catchawave   Oct-05-05 12:37 PM   #41 
  - Yeah  renie408   Oct-05-05 12:41 PM   #42 
  - They are eating from the same trough the republicans eat from.  Reciprocity   Oct-05-05 12:43 PM   #43 
  - Somehow, in the new order, we have to break that chain...  Lerkfish   Oct-05-05 12:47 PM   #44 
  - EXACTLY! Other side of the same coin...  BillORightsMan   Oct-05-05 02:26 PM   #51 
  - Hmmmm...."Two Americas"...where have I heard that before??? n/t  renie408   Oct-05-05 02:30 PM   #52 
  - 2 things  no one   Oct-05-05 01:01 PM   #46 
  - If anyone stands out as a leader, they will get attacked by Rove.  applegrove   Oct-05-05 02:16 PM   #50 
  - Pollyanna, I am so optimistic I am thinking we may not have to  renie408   Oct-05-05 07:18 PM   #64 
  - And if they're a real leader they'll give as good as they get  OzarkDem   Oct-05-05 07:24 PM   #66 
     - There is brave.. and then there is stupid. You need to know the difference  applegrove   Oct-05-05 10:47 PM   #70 
  - The problem is that people EXPECT a leader.  janx   Oct-05-05 02:39 PM   #53 
  - We need a more unified message  Jim4Wes   Oct-05-05 02:44 PM   #54 
  - Leadership and more importantly message  ernstbass   Oct-05-05 02:46 PM   #55 
  - The message for the Dem's should be about families  MichiganVote   Oct-05-05 05:32 PM   #63 
  - They talked about those things last time  OzarkDem   Oct-05-05 07:20 PM   #65 
     - And the republicans won? Hardly.  MichiganVote   Oct-05-05 07:55 PM   #68 
  - Too much division and too many once-bitten politicians  TheFarseer   Oct-05-05 07:26 PM   #67 
  - Just consider this.  Laelth   Oct-05-05 08:04 PM   #69 
  - Did he really steal it?  kjwood   Oct-05-05 11:32 PM   #72 
  - Hard-half mediocrity  kjwood   Oct-05-05 11:22 PM   #71 
  - I hear this a lot  apnu   Oct-05-05 11:45 PM   #73 
  - MONEY  Toots   Oct-07-05 11:27 AM   #75 
 

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