Reply #17: What?

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All Westerners are liberals? How? Reactionary imperialism can describe western policies pretty well (Vietnam, "free" trade, Iraq, treatment of Cuba, CIA actions, Le Penn getting as much of the vote as he did, exploitation of people and entire regions, anti-abortionists, people who oppose welfare and promote the starvation of the poor, the list goes ooooooon and on)

How are socialists not liberal?

The "neos" trashed the world because westerners allowed them to. We are VERY reactionary, and the environment of America and of the world was one that encouraged such base and disgusting policies.

FDR, JFK, LBJ and Carter. That is about all the liberalism there has ever been in America, and JFK (Bay of Pigs) and LBJ (that Vietnam thing) are generous additions. Face it: liberalism cannot define the western world or its policies at all. Liberalism has never been a big part of the political equation in America.