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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 06:01 PM
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28. Another key similarity is that
the economic prosperity of the 3rd Reich was built on quicksand, relying on continuing conquest and colonisation/enslavement; as someone put it, his was a "triumph of the book-keeping will".

It was inevitably doomed, in very principle, because of this, and also, and more seminally, because Hitler was a half-wit. Not simply in terms of good sense, which is actually a function of the heart, but also in terms of his head, his worldly intelligence. He repeatedly over-ruled his generals, who would have forgotten more about strategy, logistics, even tactics than dumkopf had ever learnt.

Much is made of the undoubtedly spectacular success of Germany's conquests in the early years, but there are at least two key factors which need to be taken into account:

a) he had an extremely bitter, highly motivated and focused general populace to lead into wars of conquest, not to speak of the normal plethora of industrialist-warmongers and worldling professionals, who thought they could use him and then take over.

b) this was in marked contrast to the French and the British, who though winners of WWI had had more than enough. Not that the way the surviving veterans were treated in the UK at least would have inspired them to trust their leaders under normal circumstances. Little wonder then, than the wermacht were able to slice through Europe like a knife through butter. And of course, it only encouragd him in his maniacal dreams.

But the bottom line of his signal, catastrophic failure was a country in ruins, and a starving population, many of its womenfolk raped mostly by the Russian troops, and doubtless many others selling their bodies for little more than dross. So, Hitler like Bush, led his country to economic ruin, although evidently very much more so.

On top of that - and even though,as someone pointed out, Hitler never won more than 40% of the electorate - the shame has stayed in some degree and wholly undeservedly, I might add, with subsequent younger generations of Germans. As a matter of fact, Hitler had actually been impressed by the some of the vilest and most brutish aspects of British rule over its empire - not least the concentration camps.

So, I think, all in all, you expressed a rather more rosy view of Hitler's egregious failure of his nation than than the reality, to put it mildly.
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  -Hitler's 3rd Reich: Similarities & Differences with the Bush/Cheney Regime Time for change  Sep-06-05 08:58 PM   #0 
  - Won't find any arguments from me....  EOTE   Sep-06-05 10:04 PM   #1 
  - If there are objections to this  Time for change   Sep-07-05 01:52 AM   #3 
     - "Bush became President  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Sep-07-05 03:13 PM   #12 
     - I didn't mean to imply that he legitimately "won" an election  Time for change   Sep-07-05 03:42 PM   #13 
        - Yes, I realise that, Tfc,  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Sep-07-05 05:32 PM   #14 
           - Yes, I hear you  Time for change   Sep-07-05 08:58 PM   #21 
              - A very important insight, if I may say so.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Sep-08-05 06:29 AM   #24 
                 - Exactly  Time for change   Sep-08-05 11:43 AM   #25 
     - Another key similarity is that  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Sep-08-05 06:01 PM   #28 
        - It's true that Hitler led his country to ruin  Time for change   Sep-08-05 06:32 PM   #29 
           - I'm sorry Tfc. I'm glad we're on the same page.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Sep-09-05 11:11 AM   #30 
              - I most certainly agree  Time for change   Sep-09-05 12:20 PM   #31 
                 - Spot on.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Sep-09-05 03:03 PM   #34 
  - There are too many to list them all here.  TankLV   Sep-07-05 12:25 AM   #2 
  - My goal was to list just enough to clearly show the similarities  Time for change   Sep-07-05 06:51 AM   #5 
  - Ashkenazi  aion   Sep-07-05 03:05 AM   #4 
  - Sorry, I don't understand the point you're trying to make  Time for change   Sep-08-05 04:31 AM   #23 
  - Also, claiming they were doing God's work.  chelaque liberal   Sep-07-05 07:03 AM   #6 
  - Great post.....  EOTE   Sep-07-05 08:02 AM   #7 
  - Good point.  Jamison   Sep-07-05 09:27 AM   #8 
     - I think another difference is that Bush's rhetoric is much more restrained  Time for change   Sep-07-05 09:59 AM   #9 
  - Good point, thank you  Time for change   Sep-07-05 01:46 PM   #11 
  - Praising guþ whilst passing the a(d)monition  aion   Sep-07-05 11:35 AM   #10 
  - I Think A Lot of Us Know, But What Can We Do?  AndyTiedye   Sep-07-05 05:51 PM   #15 
  - Great question  Time for change   Sep-07-05 06:15 PM   #17 
  - I was discussing something similar yesterday:  Toronto Ron   Sep-07-05 05:58 PM   #16 
  - So true  Time for change   Sep-07-05 07:12 PM   #18 
  - Thanks for this work.  truedelphi   Sep-07-05 08:05 PM   #19 
  - Very interesting points  Time for change   Sep-07-05 08:30 PM   #20 
     - I truly apologize for leaving out 3 million (and more)  truedelphi   Sep-08-05 11:53 AM   #26 
        - You're absolutely right about that  Time for change   Sep-08-05 02:09 PM   #27 
  - Nice Work........n/t  NoBushSpokenHere   Sep-07-05 11:57 PM   #22 
  - Wake up,  redtapeblues   Sep-09-05 01:29 PM   #32 
  - I think it's a big stretch to say that our nightmare will be over in 3 yrs  Time for change   Sep-09-05 02:36 PM   #33 
  - Main difference: GERMAN people vs. AMERICAN people  McCamy Taylor   Sep-09-05 03:24 PM   #35 
     - Yes, I agree that we would not be susceptable to the rantings of a Hitler  Time for change   Sep-09-05 03:55 PM   #36 
 

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