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Sun Aug-28-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 39. I think I agree with you |
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He is trying to jump start a real discussion that goes beyond eitehr of the simplistic polarities of "Get out today" and "stay the course (forever)".
As I said above, we're in a bad situation and have to figure out the least-damaging way to extricate ourselves. Feingold is trying to push that necessary debate forward in more concrete terms.
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| -Is there any Democratic UNITER on the bench for 08? |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 10:41 AM |
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It doesn't appear so. |
CarbonDate |
Aug-28-05 10:46 AM |
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As an additional point: |
CarbonDate |
Aug-28-05 10:48 AM |
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You may be right in a subconscious way |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 10:55 AM |
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That may be true. |
kevsand |
Aug-28-05 10:57 AM |
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Fierce loyalty |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:20 AM |
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Bush? |
jmatthan |
Aug-28-05 10:47 AM |
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He can't run in 08 |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 10:48 AM |
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Jeb? |
jmatthan |
Aug-30-05 09:26 AM |
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Sadly, none of the presumed "leaders" meet your criteria. |
speedoo |
Aug-28-05 10:53 AM |
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Clark is flawed, but still the best bet |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 10:54 AM |
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I love Clark. Surely his message would be the most receptive to |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 10:56 AM |
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You have to have followers to be a leader. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 11:05 AM |
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I hope you are right. Clark is the president we need right |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 11:15 AM |
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I couldn't agree more. CLARK. |
Totally Committed |
Aug-28-05 11:20 AM |
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The bush gang feared Clark more than any of the rest. Because they |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 11:22 AM |
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No it does not |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 10:59 AM |
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you can't criticize a bad doctor if you agree with his diagnosis |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 11:15 AM |
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If the doctor LIED??? |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 12:00 PM |
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I missed the warning sign |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 01:11 PM |
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Good |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 01:59 PM |
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I criticized Hillary |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 02:38 PM |
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"flying fuck at a rolling donut" |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:49 PM |
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So I will revise my statement |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 02:58 PM |
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I don't have the equipment |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 03:57 PM |
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That creates an interesting philosophical paradox |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 04:30 PM |
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Sandnsea is a Kerry supporter. n/t |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-28-05 02:19 PM |
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Sandnsea is a truth supporter |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:35 PM |
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Define "truth." n/t |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-28-05 02:41 PM |
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Truth is based on fact |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:51 PM |
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Define "winning/succeeding." |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-28-05 03:01 PM |
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Security, Reconstruction, Elections |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 03:46 PM |
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Who (other than Biden) has claimed |
Texas_Kat |
Aug-28-05 01:13 PM |
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What difference does it make? |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:05 PM |
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I didn't ask you that.... |
Texas_Kat |
Aug-28-05 02:57 PM |
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No I didn't |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 03:56 PM |
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Thanks for clarifying your thought. |
Texas_Kat |
Aug-28-05 04:27 PM |
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It is for everybody else |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 05:39 PM |
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You must have missed MTP today.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 11:28 AM |
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Read his damned op-ed |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 11:53 AM |
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You may have read the op-ed.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 12:00 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-28-05 12:18 PM |
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Clark sucking idiots ? |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 12:21 PM |
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You missed the sign too |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 01:36 PM |
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I'm confused temporarily..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 01:53 PM |
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Sorry I was trying to make a joke. I failed, I apologize. |
cosmik debris |
Aug-28-05 02:40 PM |
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Clark supports winning in Iraq |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:39 PM |
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Clark is a consistent spokesperson |
Tom Rinaldo |
Aug-28-05 01:43 PM |
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I agree with you |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:33 PM |
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I'm sorry you're so bitter, but I'm also damned sick |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-28-05 01:36 PM |
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I'm tired of it too |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:45 PM |
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Clark was not and is not pro-Iraqi war? |
Clark2008 |
Aug-28-05 05:47 PM |
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Hillary is probably the closest. Our party suffers from ego and |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 10:54 AM |
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Hart is campaigning for Feingold |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 10:57 AM |
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Ahhh. Very interesting. |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 10:59 AM |
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I wish he'd run himself |
OzarkDem |
Aug-28-05 11:11 AM |
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I wish he save the bashing, period. |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-28-05 03:13 PM |
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Amen!!! |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 05:31 PM |
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I think Hart was absolutely right to go public |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:27 AM |
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i strongly agree |
welshTerrier2 |
Aug-28-05 11:51 AM |
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Surely Hart knows that the repukes will denounce the Dems from |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 05:40 PM |
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Charismatically challenged? |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 10:55 AM |
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Feingold is great but... |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:00 AM |
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Feingold will be labeled, "Anti-War." The Dems have foolishly |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 11:02 AM |
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But he's being smart about it |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:07 AM |
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Nope. The reality is the bush gang doesn't want to leave. The reality is |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 11:19 AM |
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Fieingold has started that |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:39 AM |
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Feingold's proposal is a mirage.....with no plan attached to it.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 11:39 AM |
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I think I agree with you |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:43 AM |
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But you can't be coy like that in today's enviornment it doesn't work. |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 12:33 PM |
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The left wants to be anti-war |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 12:01 PM |
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I know that very well. It's up to our "leaders" to make the distinction.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 12:31 PM |
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Clark & Dean support winning in Iraq |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 02:12 PM |
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Look, we need to define our terms and come up |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-28-05 02:40 PM |
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What are you |
safi0 |
Aug-28-05 11:45 AM |
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Presidential charisma |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 12:07 PM |
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I think that Feingold has "fine" charisma.....and that this will |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 12:18 PM |
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Brian Schweitzer is a possibility |
ruggerson |
Aug-28-05 10:58 AM |
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Thanks |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 12:10 PM |
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Check this out: |
ruggerson |
Aug-28-05 12:13 PM |
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Feingold is a progressive who appeals to independents |
dmordue |
Aug-28-05 11:00 AM |
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He does? How do you know he appeals to independents.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 11:02 AM |
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Working for his 04 Campaign |
safi0 |
Aug-28-05 11:53 AM |
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That's typical local politics |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 12:04 PM |
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Feingold didn't run |
safi0 |
Aug-28-05 02:43 PM |
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Let's look at his campaign |
sandnsea |
Aug-28-05 06:05 PM |
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Local does not translate into national. |
Kahuna |
Aug-28-05 05:46 PM |
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Go with a governor. Go with Rendell. |
Emendator |
Aug-28-05 11:01 AM |
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Here's a recent piece on Schweitzer |
ruggerson |
Aug-28-05 11:05 AM |
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Don't care about 2008, only 2005 |
OzarkDem |
Aug-28-05 11:10 AM |
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Don't care about 2008 yet, but we have to or we'll get stuck again |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:24 AM |
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If things don't improve in the problems facing the US today |
OzarkDem |
Aug-28-05 12:16 PM |
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I'm sorry Armstead..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 11:25 AM |
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I followed him in the races. |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 11:34 AM |
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Well, I agree that Wes Clark must get into the economic aspects |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 11:44 AM |
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All Democrats should challenge the corporate media |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 12:12 PM |
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But when they do, they get "shut out"..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 12:53 PM |
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Democrats have to stand up to the Media |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 01:35 PM |
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I agree.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 01:37 PM |
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Edwards |
Catchawave |
Aug-28-05 11:45 AM |
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What is Edwards' stance on the War as it stands now.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 11:53 AM |
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That's why I provided his link..... |
Catchawave |
Aug-28-05 12:34 PM |
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I'm sorry, but if Edwards doesn't have a stance that you can |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 12:41 PM |
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2006/min wage initiatives bring out the voters? |
Catchawave |
Aug-28-05 01:02 PM |
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But, but, but.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 01:23 PM |
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Don't be so negative :sigh: |
Catchawave |
Aug-28-05 01:35 PM |
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Asking a Democrat for a plan on the subject that is .... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 01:41 PM |
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Apology accepted :) ~n/t |
Catchawave |
Aug-28-05 01:43 PM |
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So why your negativity over on this thread..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 01:46 PM |
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Nothing about Clark here, just bumbling "retired" generals |
Catchawave |
Aug-28-05 01:59 PM |
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So Clark was not included in your remarks of |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 02:59 PM |
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Conyers & Boxer...or .....Boxer & Conyers. |
sellitman |
Aug-28-05 11:45 AM |
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Clark/ Fiengold or Hackett in '08 |
JohnnyBoots |
Aug-28-05 11:47 AM |
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Clark/Hackett? Oh yeah, that'll work.... |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Aug-28-05 01:12 PM |
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Yeah voters love to vote for politicians. |
Skwmom |
Aug-28-05 03:55 PM |
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My Personal Prediction |
BlueStater |
Aug-28-05 01:09 PM |
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We'd win in that scenario. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-28-05 01:54 PM |
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M. Warner & W. Clark ticket |
liberalitch |
Aug-28-05 02:59 PM |
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Well at least |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-28-05 03:01 PM |
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Killbotfactory? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-28-05 03:02 PM |
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*snicker* |
salin |
Aug-28-05 05:22 PM |
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huh? |
Armstead |
Aug-28-05 05:29 PM |
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No, there will always be people who don't like the candidate. |
TheDonkey |
Aug-28-05 03:45 PM |
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Al Gore |
demzilla |
Aug-28-05 05:30 PM |
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Can't really see how Hillary can be any kind of uniter |
CWebster |
Aug-30-05 09:35 AM |
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Maybe Russ is the type who grows on you |
Armstead |
Aug-30-05 09:58 AM |
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He is pretty hunky for a politician |
CWebster |
Aug-30-05 10:35 AM |
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No one mentioned is a true uniter. I still go with Kerry! |
second edition |
Aug-30-05 10:44 AM |
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Not enough, apparently to win |
CWebster |
Aug-30-05 10:53 AM |
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