Reply #8: Charismatically challenged?

[sandnsea]

Feingold? Where do people GET THIS CRAP. :eyes: Bush is the most annoying male I've ever seen in politics, and yet we let the media run with the likeable guy bullshit. Will we ever ever ever learn to do the same goddamned thing. Argh!

Hillary will lose. Dems need women and too many women know she chose politics over her own self-respect when she stayed married to Bill. The message she sent to young women, and even young men, is just reprehensible. It won't be an out loud kind of thing, but she's got huge hurdles to overcome in order to win the presidency. She'd only have a chance if the right puts up somebody like Frist, Jeb or Allen. I'd be back to campaigning for the Supreme Court, if there's even a Supreme Court to save by then.