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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:05 PM
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30. With Sirota. I am not conflicted, with this kind of drivel from Marshall
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 03:11 PM by flpoljunkie
Will Marshall:

"Such attitudes aren't likely to allay voters' doubts about Democrats' resolve to make them safer from terrorist attacks. Neither are demands by left-wing Democrats and the anti-war group, MoveOn.org, that the United States withdraw its troops from Iraq. Rather than offering fresh fodder to Karl Rove, the party would do better to heed Sens. Joe Biden, John Kerry, Evan Bayh, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, who have set an example for responsible, progressive patriotism. They have balanced blunt criticism of the Bush administration's blunders with concrete suggestions for relieving the strain on U.S. forces in Iraq, broadening international support for the Iraqi government, and speeding up the pace of reconstruction."

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253472&kaid=12...

Essentially parroting the Bush administration line is hardly "progressive" patriotism. Why does he even use this word? It sounds silly in this context. Does he think we will be fooled into signing on to the DLC agenda--which is, basically, trying to move to the right of the Bush neocons by enlarging the armed forces by another 100,000 soldiers?

How many more Americans and Iraqis are going to have to die in Iraq for the creation of an Islamic state, allied with Iran? I think Paul Hackett has come to realize this, as evidence in his recent appearance on Bill Maher.

"Right now it's not working. The country is in chaos. There is a civil war going on. It hasn't gotten any better in a year and a half. News flash. War's over. Let's get 'em home." - Paul Hackett on Bill Maher

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/20.html#a4537
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  -Sirotablog: DLC helps spread claim that 'progressives destroyed America' flpoljunkie  Aug-25-05 10:18 AM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-25-05 10:25 AM   #1 
  - You didn't expect any of them to show up, did you?  Hardhead   Aug-25-05 11:58 AM   #6 
     - DLC More Right-Wing Than Bush Sr's Foreign Policy Team  GoreDean2008   Aug-25-05 06:28 PM   #53 
        - Indeed, the DLC are quite hawkish  Hardhead   Aug-25-05 06:38 PM   #54 
        - "The DLC is more dangerous than some Republicans."  ElectroPrincess   Aug-26-05 12:05 PM   #64 
  - The DLC  Lindsay   Aug-25-05 10:35 AM   #2 
  - is the DLC infiltrated with GOP operatives  gasperc   Aug-25-05 10:51 AM   #3 
  - Yes they are  AntiCoup2K4   Aug-25-05 12:39 PM   #12 
  - rienforces the let it happen on purpose theories  gasperc   Aug-25-05 01:32 PM   #15 
  - WHOA, WTF!?!?!?! Will Marshall is a PNAC signator?!?!  SeanQ   Aug-25-05 02:37 PM   #23 
  - Not only that, they are funded by right wingers.  MGKrebs   Aug-25-05 02:48 PM   #28 
  - See this alternate Right-Web link, of the various signers of PNAC papers  krkaufman   Aug-25-05 02:58 PM   #29 
  - They're actually very small  OzarkDem   Aug-25-05 03:51 PM   #36 
     - Good point about Podesta's CAP, but why would Hillary sign up with DLC?  flpoljunkie   Aug-25-05 04:15 PM   #40 
     - Sirota just finished a two year stint at the Center for American Progress.  flpoljunkie   Aug-25-05 04:24 PM   #44 
  - Hey, Hil.  tsuki   Aug-25-05 04:21 PM   #43 
  - DLC, far left and even anarchists have GOP operatives in their midst.  blm   Aug-25-05 04:20 PM   #42 
  - It's one thing to have operatives who have infiltrated...  bloom   Aug-25-05 04:52 PM   #45 
     - Some of the staunchest Dem centrists don't even belong to the DLC, while  blm   Aug-25-05 05:00 PM   #46 
        - When their spokesperson calls people who are against the war  bloom   Aug-25-05 05:11 PM   #47 
        - I think they are crazy to have that crap on their site, but, I also see  blm   Aug-25-05 05:33 PM   #48 
        - Just a rotten oxymoron organization  PATRICK   Aug-25-05 06:11 PM   #50 
  - The DLC is an infiltration of the GOP into the Democratic Party.  electropop   Aug-26-05 01:58 PM   #66 
  - but but progressives are splitting the party,,,divided we fall blah blah  glitch   Aug-25-05 10:55 AM   #4 
  - Kick! N/T  Guy Whitey Corngood   Aug-25-05 11:31 AM   #5 
  - .  Al-CIAda   Aug-25-05 12:00 PM   #7 
  - ...  Guy Whitey Corngood   Aug-25-05 12:05 PM   #8 
  - The Corporate OWNED DLC...  bvar22   Aug-25-05 12:07 PM   #9 
  - Howard needs 2 declare war on these  xxqqqzme   Aug-25-05 12:13 PM   #10 
  - I agree. Howard, if you're listening....  PassingFair   Aug-25-05 08:42 PM   #56 
  - These people are truly scum...  ClassWarrior   Aug-25-05 12:18 PM   #11 
  - I believe many moderate to centrist DEMS would want none  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 12:46 PM   #13 
     - You're probably right. The DLC is a small pack of infiltrators...  ClassWarrior   Aug-25-05 01:33 PM   #16 
  - None left standing. First we dispose of the DLC, then the Pugs.  chaska   Aug-25-05 12:52 PM   #14 
  - To paraphrase John Dean's "there's a cancer in the Presidency"....  paineinthearse   Aug-25-05 01:57 PM   #17 
  - Support Progressive Majority and Wellstone Action...  ClassWarrior   Aug-25-05 02:00 PM   #18 
  - Don't forget DFA n/t  PassingFair   Aug-25-05 08:43 PM   #57 
  - Actually there is a cancer inside the general problem  PATRICK   Aug-26-05 06:57 PM   #67 
  - Did I miss a meeting......  Carrion   Aug-25-05 02:11 PM   #19 
  - I was wondering the same thing  wryter2000   Aug-25-05 02:28 PM   #22 
  - It's just Orwellian speak..  zidzi   Aug-25-05 06:24 PM   #52 
  - The DLC is one of...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-25-05 02:17 PM   #20 
  - progressive initiatives that hurt America  mpendragon   Aug-25-05 02:25 PM   #21 
  - Ending the war in Viet Nam and now...Questioning voting fraud!  mom cat   Aug-25-05 02:44 PM   #25 
  - Remember - "Democrat" does not equal "Progressive"  SlipperySlope   Aug-25-05 02:38 PM   #24 
  - The base, that is us, must demand more from our party. And let them  flpoljunkie   Aug-25-05 02:46 PM   #27 
     - Bankruptcy act was a sell-out, regardless of "progressive" standards.  SlipperySlope   Aug-25-05 03:19 PM   #31 
  - Do you agree with Sirota or Kos?  SlipperySlope   Aug-25-05 02:44 PM   #26 
  - With Sirota. I am not conflicted, with this kind of drivel from Marshall  flpoljunkie   Aug-25-05 03:05 PM   #30 
  - Strange that the DLC calls Bush's illegal acts "Blunders"...  Q   Aug-25-05 03:37 PM   #32 
     - near 2000 dead for "Operation Islamic theocracy" is a bit more  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 03:54 PM   #37 
  - I hope this is on C-SPAN because I was thinking the same thing  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 03:40 PM   #34 
  - That's it - the DLC is officially the ENEMY!  MadisonProgressive   Aug-25-05 03:37 PM   #33 
  - DLC can't be trusted by centrist Dems  OzarkDem   Aug-25-05 03:44 PM   #35 
  - un-Democratic Lowlife Cowards  despairing optimist   Aug-25-05 04:05 PM   #38 
  - Couldn't agree more  Catrina   Aug-25-05 06:12 PM   #51 
  - Should be "Sirota treats progressives like they're gullible".  LoZoccolo   Aug-25-05 04:13 PM   #39 
  - It is a loaded question. They are trying to destroy the term progressive  tsuki   Aug-25-05 04:19 PM   #41 
  - Many of us knew this all along..........  ClintonTyree   Aug-25-05 05:48 PM   #49 
  - SeanQ did an excellent job of defining the DLC.....  BrklynLiberal   Aug-25-05 08:09 PM   #55 
  - If the DNC signaled that they were going to cut the DLC loose...  PassingFair   Aug-25-05 08:49 PM   #58 
  - Kick him, and Zell Miller, out of the party... they're perfect Repugs. n/t  stevietheman   Aug-25-05 09:40 PM   #59 
  - DLC is a front for the RW. We must stop them.  Dugor   Aug-26-05 05:58 AM   #60 
  - Welcome to DU, Dugor.  flpoljunkie   Aug-26-05 07:30 AM   #61 
  - kick n/t  Guy Whitey Corngood   Aug-26-05 09:31 AM   #62 
  - Shills for the GOP or just behind the times?  txaslftist   Aug-26-05 11:58 AM   #63 
  - .  Al-CIAda   Aug-26-05 01:02 PM   #65 
 

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