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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 11:33 PM
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25. They're not moderate Democrats, and it's not just the war.
There is no sign of their being moderate Democrats. They come across very much as Republicans, and the voting records and stated opinions bear this out, as do the corporate contributions, participation in PNAC and other right-wing thinktanks, and so on.

Also, it's not a complete 100% Republican party-line vote, but they're something like twice as likely to vote with Republicans as non-DLC'ers, as evinced by CAFTA.
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  -No, I'm not quitting; i'm kicking the right-wing hawks out of OUR Party welshTerrier2  Aug-21-05 09:58 PM   #0 
  - I agree with your sentiments...  kentuck   Aug-21-05 10:06 PM   #1 
  - I respect your opinion, but Kerry does NOT want to "expand" the war  WildEyedLiberal   Aug-21-05 10:07 PM   #2 
  - respect appreciated but please tell me this ....  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 10:17 PM   #4 
  - I'm searching for some links about Kerry's Iraq position  WildEyedLiberal   Aug-21-05 10:25 PM   #5 
  - Kerry specifically recommended following Shenseki's(sp) advice  emperor72   Aug-21-05 10:30 PM   #8 
     - Not true  WildEyedLiberal   Aug-21-05 10:57 PM   #12 
        - i agree with this ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 11:08 PM   #14 
           - Yep.  WildEyedLiberal   Aug-21-05 11:52 PM   #28 
  - Here's a link I found  WildEyedLiberal   Aug-21-05 11:01 PM   #13 
     - i agree with all you wrote except ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 11:13 PM   #16 
        - Just curious...  kerrygoddess   Aug-21-05 11:15 PM   #17 
        - ah, i thought best recollections were permitted ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 11:22 PM   #19 
           - I've heard that he is planning a trip to Iraq  kerrygoddess   Aug-21-05 11:32 PM   #24 
              - i remembered one of my sources re: troop strength  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:06 AM   #30 
                 - Kerry talked about increasing troop strength  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:12 AM   #34 
                    - ASAP  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:23 AM   #40 
                       - I hear that...  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:25 AM   #41 
        - I know his plan did call for getting help from allies  WildEyedLiberal   Aug-21-05 11:48 PM   #27 
  - Well, if they ever want anymore of my money  AuntieM1957   Aug-21-05 10:27 PM   #7 
  - You know, You're right  mitchtv   Aug-21-05 10:13 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-21-05 10:30 PM   #9 
  - Q) How many anti-DLC posts does it take to change a lightbulb?  Mark E. Smith   Aug-21-05 10:25 PM   #6 
  - interesting ... did the BP even mention the DLC ???  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 10:41 PM   #11 
  - love that kennedy quote.  orleans   Aug-21-05 11:29 PM   #23 
  - from his speech on Social Security ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:09 AM   #32 
     - thanks, i just googled it and  orleans   Aug-22-05 02:07 AM   #56 
  - Self-delete  Totally Committed   Aug-22-05 05:58 AM   #62 
  - Hey, don't worry about it.  Mark E. Smith   Aug-22-05 07:42 AM   #67 
     - moral authority  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 09:02 AM   #72 
        - "the majority of us"  tx_dem41   Aug-22-05 09:58 AM   #74 
           - Self identified Democrats.  endarkenment   Aug-22-05 12:18 PM   #80 
  - Please read this:  Q   Aug-22-05 05:27 AM   #60 
     - Read it:  ieoeja   Aug-22-05 03:06 PM   #86 
     - An interesting read, and here's a few snips about Clinton/DLC Legacy.  KoKo01   Aug-22-05 09:15 PM   #95 
  - Yep, it's time to kick the DLC out of the Democratic Party. n/t  wli   Aug-21-05 10:36 PM   #10 
  - Where do you propose  kerrygoddess   Aug-21-05 11:10 PM   #15 
     - do "moderate" Dems support continuing the occupation in Iraq?  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 11:18 PM   #18 
     - Not all Dems are out protesting  kerrygoddess   Aug-21-05 11:26 PM   #22 
        - a few points ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-21-05 11:56 PM   #29 
           - Hello...  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:34 AM   #44 
              - what do you think the Democrats should do regarding Iraq?  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:49 AM   #47 
                 - I think  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 01:08 AM   #53 
     - THEY WILL STILL VOTE DEMOCRAT  Copperred   Aug-21-05 11:25 PM   #21 
     - But they didn't all vote democrat...  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:28 AM   #42 
        - "We can't chase people away"  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:32 AM   #43 
     - They're not moderate Democrats, and it's not just the war.  wli   Aug-21-05 11:33 PM   #25 
     - Well here's where this argument falls flat  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:08 AM   #31 
        - your refutation is actually what falls flat  wli   Aug-22-05 12:11 AM   #33 
        - Not really  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:13 AM   #36 
        - the comparison is wrong  wli   Aug-22-05 12:51 AM   #48 
           - "just enough"  bvar22   Aug-22-05 11:50 AM   #78 
              - Exactly what I was trying to say in my earlier post...JUST ENOUGH!  Raksha   Aug-22-05 09:33 PM   #97 
        - sheesh, if you're going to use big words ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:16 AM   #37 
           - LOL!  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:20 AM   #38 
           - what on earth? "stochastic" is not an obscure word n/t  wli   Aug-22-05 12:42 AM   #45 
              - Oh I just used it the other day...  kerrygoddess   Aug-22-05 12:44 AM   #46 
                 - maybe my occupation skews my perception of commonly-used words  wli   Aug-22-05 12:52 AM   #49 
                    - nahhhhhhhhhhh ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:56 AM   #50 
        - Sure, some DLC members voted against CAFTA....  Raksha   Aug-22-05 09:31 PM   #96 
     - Who wants to kick out moderate Democrats?!?!  SeanQ   Aug-22-05 02:13 PM   #82 
  - 100% Agreement FROM OHIO  Copperred   Aug-21-05 11:24 PM   #20 
  - It occurs to me that the situation we are currently in is exactly what  greyhound1966   Aug-21-05 11:37 PM   #26 
  - just for the record ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 12:21 AM   #39 
     - No pacifist here either, but  greyhound1966   Aug-22-05 12:59 AM   #51 
        - are you talking only about the use of the military?  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 01:10 AM   #54 
           - Primarily the use of the military  greyhound1966   Aug-22-05 02:48 AM   #57 
  - Hagel  Emendator   Aug-22-05 12:12 AM   #35 
  - Hagel is not antiwar. You did not listen to him yesterday.  Mass   Aug-22-05 08:43 AM   #70 
  - This is key  omega minimo   Aug-22-05 01:06 AM   #52 
  - the phases of the Iraq war  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 01:28 AM   #55 
  - RECOMMENDED!!! Great Post!  loudsue   Aug-22-05 02:54 AM   #58 
  - Recommended.  Tinoire   Aug-22-05 03:40 AM   #59 
  - The very people and politicians...  Q   Aug-22-05 05:41 AM   #61 
  - Excellent post.  Totally Committed   Aug-22-05 06:34 AM   #63 
  - Okay, fine, We all want Iraq resolved  TayTay   Aug-22-05 07:19 AM   #64 
  - I think the plan is pretty clear.  endarkenment   Aug-22-05 07:39 AM   #66 
     - Does that include people of liberal conscience who  TayTay   Aug-22-05 02:45 PM   #85 
        - Good questions.  endarkenment   Aug-22-05 03:52 PM   #87 
  - Yes we have no leaders  votesomemore   Aug-22-05 07:32 AM   #65 
  - well, its clear to me when one Gold Star Mom outdoes our leaders  Lerkfish   Aug-22-05 08:05 AM   #68 
  - Have you really listened to Feingold  Mass   Aug-22-05 08:42 AM   #69 
  - Kerry's position on the war  endarkenment   Aug-22-05 08:54 AM   #71 
     - Well, Feingold is on the stay the course way as well  Mass   Aug-22-05 11:31 AM   #76 
     - Hacket said on Bill Maher that  endarkenment   Aug-22-05 12:16 PM   #79 
        - For Hackett, it is a serious move from his position last month  Mass   Aug-22-05 04:24 PM   #88 
           - "the entire region will spiral into chaos"  endarkenment   Aug-23-05 07:09 AM   #101 
     - He did say  Noisy Democrat   Aug-22-05 09:57 PM   #98 
        - yes he did and he also said that it was not a mistake.  endarkenment   Aug-23-05 07:10 AM   #102 
  - While YOU are taking it upon yourself to define the criteria for the  tx_dem41   Aug-22-05 09:46 AM   #73 
  - Great topic - great discussion.  Burried News   Aug-22-05 10:46 AM   #75 
  - "There can be no America with two Republican Parties."  SeanQ   Aug-22-05 02:26 PM   #84 
  - Real democrats support only total opposition to the idiot's lies.  FreeStateDemocrat   Aug-22-05 11:38 AM   #77 
  - And I'll keep supporting candidate like Paul  SeanQ   Aug-22-05 01:52 PM   #81 
  - One of these things is not like the others...  LittleClarkie   Aug-22-05 02:16 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-22-05 05:55 PM   #89 
  - after discussion, this thread is being unlocked.  AZDemDist6   Aug-22-05 07:16 PM   #90 
  - thanks, AZDemDist6  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 07:30 PM   #91 
     - you're welcome WT2  AZDemDist6   Aug-22-05 07:49 PM   #92 
        - really appreciate that, AZ ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-22-05 08:01 PM   #94 
           - agreed  AZDemDist6   Aug-23-05 06:56 AM   #100 
  - Circle snap.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-22-05 07:56 PM   #93 
  - They have to go  mmonk   Aug-22-05 10:43 PM   #99 
 

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