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Fri Aug-26-05 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
| 88. Thank you -- and I believe you may have a good point there |
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I just don't know.
My thought in pointing out the difference with Republicans was to make a "political" point -- and of course we need all the political points we can get.
Then I was quite surprised when an admitted Republican responded to this thread, objecting to my demonizing of Republicans, and stating that most "real" Republicans do share these values. My response is in post # 35 of this thread.
I pointed out that the vast majority of the Republican leadership of this country does not share these values. So given that, how can one think of themselves as a Republican if they don't share the values of the Republican leadership?
Tough question.
But you may be right. We certainly don't want to be divisive -- but we do need to win some more elections, so it might not be a bad idea to point out the actual values of the Republicans that we run against.
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| -10 Core Democratic Values that Separate Us from Republicans |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 04:48 PM |
#0 |
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good list |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Aug-20-05 04:51 PM |
#1 |
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This is an interesting point |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 06:40 PM |
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Like THEY do? |
omega minimo |
Aug-20-05 07:19 PM |
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But I'm talking about potentially convertable Republicans n/t |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 07:30 PM |
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Understood. Yet if they didn't buy into the "screw the other half" |
omega minimo |
Aug-20-05 07:38 PM |
#24 |
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These people I'm talking about (in my wife's family) |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 08:05 PM |
#27 |
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well, I have such a friend |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Aug-20-05 07:20 PM |
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Yes, this drives me crazy |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 07:34 PM |
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I agree |
Carla in Ca |
Aug-20-05 07:09 PM |
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to be specific, Education and Healthcare as a right |
corkhead |
Aug-20-05 04:54 PM |
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Yes, it most definitely would n/t |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 07:35 PM |
#23 |
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forgot the big one |
MisterLiberal |
Aug-28-05 10:01 PM |
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I like it! |
lvx35 |
Aug-20-05 04:55 PM |
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Thank you for the ideas and the support -- and I agree with you # 5 |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 11:49 AM |
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You forgot the most important one. |
William769 |
Aug-20-05 04:58 PM |
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Can you be more specific about that? |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 05:24 PM |
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Civil Rights Act |
William769 |
Aug-20-05 05:28 PM |
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I did say in the beginning that this applies to all people, not just our |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 05:48 PM |
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You worded it too blandly |
election_2004 |
Aug-21-05 04:21 AM |
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I agree that laws need to protect vulnerable people |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 08:55 AM |
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Very similar to the Green Party's 10 key vaues... |
Big Kahuna |
Aug-20-05 05:12 PM |
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Yes, was gonna say that. :^) And Dennis K had 10 key values too, |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-20-05 06:44 PM |
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love this general topic |
libodem |
Aug-20-05 07:15 PM |
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I believe that decentralization is a two-edged sword |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 09:56 PM |
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Yes, they are many similarities -- |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 11:43 PM |
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I'm nominating this. |
StudentOfDarrow |
Aug-20-05 05:14 PM |
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The RW goal is to turn the Middle Class into Serfs. |
Disturbed |
Aug-20-05 05:38 PM |
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Just out of curiosity... |
StudentOfDarrow |
Aug-20-05 10:10 PM |
#33 |
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Words without deeds are meaningless |
TechBear_Seattle |
Aug-20-05 06:04 PM |
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Well, this has to be the most thorough response I've ever received to a |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 07:02 PM |
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And that thorough response is a scathing indictment of the Beltway Democra |
Gay Green |
Aug-21-05 07:58 AM |
#40 |
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Genocide. |
Don1 |
Aug-21-05 09:49 AM |
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It seems to me that we have a lot of agreement on this issue |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 10:55 AM |
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What we did wrong and how relevant to your values. |
Don1 |
Aug-21-05 09:05 PM |
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These are important points |
Time for change |
Aug-22-05 07:00 AM |
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I spent some time looking up references for you. |
Don1 |
Aug-27-05 12:26 PM |
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Thank you for trying |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 05:19 PM |
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Grrr.... |
Don1 |
Aug-27-05 11:56 PM |
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I did no such thing |
Time for change |
Aug-28-05 07:35 AM |
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Don't Just Review My References. |
Don1 |
Aug-28-05 11:35 AM |
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Here's what I see as the bottom line |
Time for change |
Aug-28-05 03:36 PM |
#109 |
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Biased Outlook |
Don1 |
Aug-28-05 05:12 PM |
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Simply stating that my statements are "biased" is not much of an argument |
Time for change |
Aug-28-05 06:27 PM |
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To a lesser degree (once again)... |
Don1 |
Aug-28-05 11:30 PM |
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I agree that the methods used "bombing at high altitudes" |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-29-05 05:32 PM |
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Could have been much better... |
Don1 |
Aug-29-05 12:57 AM |
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I disagree with your premise that an intervention in Kosovo was |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-29-05 05:16 PM |
#118 |
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what about Universal Healthcare? |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Aug-20-05 07:11 PM |
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I mentioned that under # 3 n/t |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 07:26 PM |
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indeed you did...my bad |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Aug-20-05 07:51 PM |
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Where is this coming from? |
omega minimo |
Aug-20-05 07:56 PM |
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I just don't believe that ALL people who are "pro-life" |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 08:16 PM |
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I like the way you |
omega minimo |
Aug-20-05 08:43 PM |
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This is from Bob Woodward's book, "The Brethren" |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 09:52 PM |
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Thank you for checking. Clearly, the "rights of the fetus" = a mistatement |
omega minimo |
Aug-20-05 10:32 PM |
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This is taken right from Roe v. Wade |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 08:45 AM |
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Note |
omega minimo |
Aug-21-05 11:38 AM |
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Here is the link |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 11:15 AM |
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"Women are not incubators" - Nice line |
mikelewis |
Aug-25-05 08:10 AM |
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Please understand... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-20-05 09:10 PM |
#30 |
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If you are a "real Republican" |
omega minimo |
Aug-20-05 10:16 PM |
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Aug-21-05 02:57 AM |
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So it's back to grade school, eh? |
omega minimo |
Aug-21-05 12:17 PM |
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Aug-21-05 05:24 PM |
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Aug-21-05 06:03 PM |
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Wow... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-21-05 08:45 PM |
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Silly |
omega minimo |
Aug-21-05 09:36 PM |
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I have no problem... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-21-05 09:55 PM |
#67 |
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Silly |
omega minimo |
Aug-21-05 10:10 PM |
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Aug-21-05 10:33 PM |
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Aug-22-05 12:46 AM |
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But I still don't understand the basis on which you call yourself both a |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 01:23 PM |
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My apologies for taking this long to respond... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-21-05 09:34 PM |
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It sounds like you're saying that you share most or all of the values in |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 10:11 PM |
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The obvious distinction is between the 'Leadership'... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-21-05 10:48 PM |
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That's good |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 10:54 PM |
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And they need it too... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-21-05 11:07 PM |
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Revised for non-gender specific content... |
Dr_eldritch |
Aug-21-05 08:55 PM |
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This is difficult to respond to |
Time for change |
Aug-20-05 10:22 PM |
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I disagree: we should emphasize LIBERTY, because the GOP threatens it. |
eallen |
Aug-21-05 09:34 AM |
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Perhaps I could have stated that better |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 11:09 AM |
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Very good summary -- (Nominated for Greatest page) |
Armstead |
Aug-21-05 10:02 AM |
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FDR's FOUR FREEDOMS |
dajoki |
Aug-21-05 01:38 PM |
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Good reminder and ideas |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 02:02 PM |
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yes they do... |
dajoki |
Aug-21-05 02:31 PM |
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Indeed he was |
Time for change |
Aug-22-05 01:05 PM |
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Change #9 "abortion rights" to "privacy rights" |
ourbluenation |
Aug-21-05 06:18 PM |
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What is your reasoning? n/t |
Time for change |
Aug-21-05 06:28 PM |
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because that's what it's about...privacy. |
ourbluenation |
Aug-21-05 06:46 PM |
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Exactly |
OzarkDem |
Aug-27-05 09:35 PM |
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or perhaps recognizing the right to personal discretion regarding |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-26-05 10:51 PM |
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Expanding # 9 to "personal reproductive rights" may be a good idea |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 07:27 AM |
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I understand |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-27-05 10:45 AM |
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I think your "pet agenda" contains many important and worth while issues |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 12:22 PM |
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All personal & privacy rights are important |
OzarkDem |
Aug-27-05 09:36 PM |
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#9 |
Leeny |
Aug-27-05 12:07 AM |
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This is exactly what I need our leaders to say... |
slor |
Aug-21-05 06:22 PM |
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Democrats: the party that cares about people. eom |
buddysmellgood |
Aug-21-05 10:00 PM |
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About #7.... |
renie408 |
Aug-22-05 07:12 AM |
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Good point. |
Time for change |
Aug-22-05 08:01 AM |
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I like your list |
magnetism |
Aug-22-05 09:39 AM |
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Thank you -- glad to know it's helpful |
Time for change |
Aug-22-05 10:14 AM |
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education |
magnetism |
Aug-22-05 10:23 AM |
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That's great -- and welcome to DU |
Time for change |
Aug-22-05 10:46 AM |
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Well done! Now, we need a list of core values that separate us |
Skidmore |
Aug-22-05 10:51 AM |
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I think that that would be quite a bit tougher |
Time for change |
Aug-22-05 11:18 AM |
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Not really - ask them to accept these values as their core values. |
Mass |
Aug-27-05 09:35 PM |
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Yes, that does seem like a better solution than to differentiate us from |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 09:41 PM |
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Bravo for the list. We need a permanent link to it. However, |
rhett o rick |
Aug-25-05 08:01 AM |
#86 |
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Thank you -- and I believe you may have a good point there |
Time for change |
Aug-26-05 09:44 PM |
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Excellent, just excellent! |
Gyre |
Aug-27-05 12:40 PM |
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Thank you very much. |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 09:35 PM |
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IMO #10 defines Election Reform far too narrowly.. |
flaminbats |
Aug-27-05 08:20 PM |
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Yes, perhaps you're right about that |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 10:42 PM |
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Abortion as the only health care issue is a problem |
OzarkDem |
Aug-27-05 09:33 PM |
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I did say in item # 3 that all people should have access to health care |
Time for change |
Aug-27-05 09:50 PM |
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Election reform is the most serious! if your don't count nothing matters! |
Imagevision |
Aug-28-05 05:15 PM |
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FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY |
Sparkly |
Aug-28-05 06:37 PM |
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Do you think that fiscal responsibility is a value or a policy? |
Time for change |
Aug-28-05 08:05 PM |
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Universal Healthcare |
Kni7es |
Aug-29-05 06:50 PM |
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Definitely. I put that in as part of # 3. n/t |
Time for change |
Aug-29-05 07:37 PM |
#121 |