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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:40 PM
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65. We should not lose faith in the entire Democratic party based on this
piece of pro-GOP propaganda being passed off as news. Look closely and you will see that a few names are dropped but there is almost no evidence to back up the sweeping conclusions put forward by this article.

This isn't even strong enough for an opnion piece. It's most certainly NOT facts, news. It's propaganda and even some of US are falling for it.

We need to complain to the Globe.
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  -Democrats embrace tough military stance rodeodance  Aug-14-05 10:02 AM   #0 
  - Democratic leadership...  teknomanzer   Aug-14-05 10:05 AM   #1 
  - We should not lose faith in the entire Democratic party based on this  Nothing Without Hope   Aug-14-05 10:40 PM   #65 
  - I think BushCo has neglected the military and veterans.  AtomicKitten   Aug-14-05 10:55 PM   #69 
     - In fact, the base closing plan has not proved popular. Congress members  Nothing Without Hope   Aug-14-05 11:42 PM   #70 
  - Exactly  LeftyElvis   Aug-15-05 02:09 PM   #82 
  - just like vietnam  leftchick   Aug-14-05 10:07 AM   #2 
  - "threats of force" is what got us into these WMD races to begin with  bpilgrim   Aug-14-05 10:12 AM   #3 
  - morans . . . idiots . . . schlumps . . . what a waste . . . n/t  OneBlueSky   Aug-14-05 10:19 AM   #4 
  - If Congressional Dem leaders want to bring stability to Iraq before  Larkspur   Aug-14-05 10:23 AM   #5 
  - Goddamnit. These are not "The Democrats".  bemildred   Aug-14-05 10:25 AM   #6 
  - exactly  Warren Stupidity   Aug-14-05 11:01 AM   #14 
     - Yeah, nothing has changed, and Hillary has never been a leftist:  bemildred   Aug-14-05 11:21 AM   #15 
  - Who asked for MORE aggression??  Maple   Aug-14-05 10:28 AM   #7 
  - Get ready everyone  devinsgram   Aug-14-05 10:33 AM   #8 
  - If this were dailykos, I'ge give you a "4"  Donailin   Aug-14-05 10:10 PM   #53 
  - How are they going to pay for this?  creeksneakers2   Aug-14-05 10:34 AM   #9 
  - Ah, where's that smilie. . .  progressive_realist   Aug-14-05 10:36 AM   #10 
  - Hate to be the one who starts this again, but...  Union Thug   Aug-14-05 10:38 AM   #11 
  - We'll never "out tough" the Repugs.  amBushed   Aug-14-05 10:40 AM   #12 
  - Sounds like Karl Rove bullshit to me  WesDem   Aug-15-05 08:17 AM   #76 
  - This Democrat will NEVER support this war - EVER!  slay   Aug-14-05 10:54 AM   #13 
  - Embracing defeat in 2006 and 2008 and paving the way for Iran attack  confludemocrat   Aug-14-05 11:50 AM   #16 
  - How is this message any different from that of  ikojo   Aug-14-05 11:57 AM   #17 
  - Those Democrats wouldnt know democracy if it smacked them in the face EOM  K-W   Aug-14-05 11:59 AM   #18 
  - this is why the democratic party is doomed, IMO....  mike_c   Aug-14-05 12:14 PM   #19 
  - Democrats? DLC more likely n/t  wli   Aug-14-05 03:55 PM   #20 
  - The Third Way/PPI/ DLC the face of the "old" party.  madfloridian   Aug-14-05 03:58 PM   #21 
  - They are all idiots calling for permanent war!  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 04:09 PM   #22 
  - Dems will never win if perceived as weak  AJH032   Aug-14-05 04:29 PM   #23 
  - How does staying in Iraq make us tough on national security?  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 04:34 PM   #24 
  - did you read what I wrote?  AJH032   Aug-14-05 04:37 PM   #25 
     - I think we need to re-think this national security nonsense  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 04:45 PM   #27 
        - if you believe in weak military, it's cool  AJH032   Aug-14-05 04:49 PM   #30 
           - I don't believe she ever mentioned supporting  ulysses   Aug-14-05 04:52 PM   #32 
           - AJH did in his/her original post, #23  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 09:39 PM   #44 
              - and what?  ulysses   Aug-14-05 09:42 PM   #47 
                 - Ooookey-dokey.  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 09:46 PM   #48 
                    - so that I may better respond to you  ulysses   Aug-14-05 09:59 PM   #50 
                       - Has nothing to do with this topic.  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:06 PM   #51 
                          - I'm still curious.  ulysses   Aug-14-05 10:10 PM   #54 
           - I believe the Framers were a lot wiser than we give them credit for  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 04:53 PM   #33 
           - Doesn't mean the two are mutually exclusive.  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 09:40 PM   #45 
              - But we have given up liberties, by increments, starting with PATRIOT  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 09:55 PM   #49 
                 - I agree.  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:08 PM   #52 
                    - If we have no liberties at home, what's the point of sending the troops  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 10:16 PM   #57 
                       - Nobody's disagreeing with you there, IG. n/t  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:20 PM   #60 
           - I think American are realizing that it is OUR corporate agression  Donailin   Aug-14-05 10:12 PM   #55 
              - That's been true in many cases, most especially BushCo.  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:19 PM   #59 
                 - If I were the next Democratic President  Donailin   Aug-14-05 10:29 PM   #63 
                    - "State of the Planet Address" -- that is GREAT!  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:54 PM   #68 
  - The Democrats are perceived as "weak" for going along with the Republican  bvar22   Aug-14-05 10:19 PM   #58 
  - As they should  wyldwolf   Aug-14-05 04:41 PM   #26 
  - what would that "success strategy" be, exactly?  ulysses   Aug-14-05 04:46 PM   #28 
  - Ask Wes Clark. It's his quote  wyldwolf   Aug-14-05 04:55 PM   #34 
     - ok  ulysses   Aug-14-05 05:06 PM   #37 
        - "I don't see them really being followed by any particularly likely Dem..."  wyldwolf   Aug-14-05 05:27 PM   #39 
  - " honor the sacrifice of so many American men and women"?  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 04:49 PM   #29 
     - no, actually, I sound like Wes Clark - that was his quote.  wyldwolf   Aug-14-05 04:56 PM   #35 
        - Wes Clark's strategy for Iraq will not end the war  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 05:05 PM   #36 
  - as more and more Americans oppose the war  ulysses   Aug-14-05 04:51 PM   #31 
  - Think of Teddy Roosevelt's famous slogan .....  Husb2Sparkly   Aug-14-05 09:40 PM   #46 
  - Roemer, Clinton, Bayh, Biden  LittleClarkie   Aug-14-05 05:21 PM   #38 
  - Will Marshall was one of PNAC's signatories  IndianaGreen   Aug-14-05 05:28 PM   #40 
  - Where are they going to get the soldiers?  election_2004   Aug-14-05 09:30 PM   #41 
  - biden & bayh - the DLC  xxqqqzme   Aug-14-05 09:34 PM   #42 
  - they're missing the boat and blaming the wrong things ...  Pepperbelly   Aug-14-05 09:38 PM   #43 
  - This article seems to be making very broad statements based on rather  Nothing Without Hope   Aug-14-05 10:12 PM   #56 
  - I had that same feeling about a Boston Herald piece  LittleClarkie   Aug-14-05 10:22 PM   #61 
  - I agree, and it's looking more & more familiar.  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:28 PM   #62 
     - Yes, this looks like a piece of propaganda designed to push the unpopular  Nothing Without Hope   Aug-14-05 10:36 PM   #64 
        - Agreed, and it goes back a long way...  Sparkly   Aug-14-05 10:52 PM   #67 
  - So Dem Leadership wants me to support Cindy while  niallmac   Aug-14-05 10:42 PM   #66 
  - My advice is not to take this article seriously. It is propaganda, not  Nothing Without Hope   Aug-14-05 11:45 PM   #71 
     - point taken..email sent. n/t  niallmac   Aug-15-05 07:53 AM   #74 
  - Forget these losers! Are they all war profiteers or what?  OKthatsIT   Aug-15-05 01:38 AM   #72 
  - This article is PROPAGANDA - a GOP MEME. Please read this thread:  Nothing Without Hope   Aug-15-05 01:41 AM   #73 
  - If the article is a GOP meme, where are the Democrats calling  IndianaGreen   Aug-15-05 09:11 AM   #78 
  - DLC embraces its own security first...  GoBlue   Aug-15-05 07:59 AM   #75 
  - but the reality is it is bullshit  CWebster   Aug-15-05 08:25 AM   #77 
  - Everything changed after 911  CWebster   Aug-15-05 01:45 PM   #79 
  - And let's not forget that Bush's response to a 'low-tech'...  Q   Aug-15-05 03:36 PM   #86 
  - From tompaine.com e-mail this afternoon:  Totally Committed   Aug-15-05 01:59 PM   #80 
  - The Democratic party formula for failure  CWebster   Aug-15-05 02:15 PM   #83 
  - "proposing that threats of force be used to stop nuclear weapons programs"  Zhade   Aug-15-05 02:05 PM   #81 
  - At the risk of being the devil's advocate  mrgorth   Aug-15-05 02:20 PM   # 
  - B -farging -S  kwolf68   Aug-15-05 02:20 PM   #84 
  - The DLC finally got their way...  Q   Aug-15-05 02:47 PM   #85 
 

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