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Fri Aug-05-05 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 29. Repeat: Wes Clark is defending Democrats against a GOP meme |
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Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 01:24 PM by ClarkUSA
He is putting the responsibility for Iraq squarely on Bush's shoulders by taking it straight to the deep-red pages of the WSJ.
His words are not about fighting the war better, it's about how we should have avoided the war in the first place. It's about how we can better win the peace and not leave Iraq a Ground Zero poster boy for recruiting jihadists.
His being a general may not mean anything to you, but it sure does to anyone who has any respect for what 35 years of exemplary military experience in the executive wing of government brings to the strategy table.
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| -Wes Clark to WSJ: 'Resolve' on Iraq Is Fine, but We Also Need A Plan |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 01:17 AM |
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Maybe Evan Bayh (and the DLC) needs to pay attention |
Texas_Kat |
Aug-05-05 01:24 AM |
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Bayh didn't complain about Democrats being weak on National Security |
paulk |
Aug-05-05 10:18 AM |
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Clark himself has pointed it out, but he has also pointed to an answer. |
dogman |
Aug-05-05 07:38 PM |
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and I applaud him for it |
paulk |
Aug-05-05 10:05 PM |
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If he's quoted as saying something he didn't intend, then this |
Texas_Kat |
Aug-05-05 10:30 PM |
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this is a good example of how the MSM distorts what Democrats say |
paulk |
Aug-06-05 09:48 AM |
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I completely agree with your assessment of the media. |
dogman |
Aug-06-05 03:05 PM |
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There goes the theory |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-05-05 01:24 AM |
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This is a good idea.. |
John Q. Citizen |
Aug-05-05 02:22 AM |
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I think so.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-05-05 04:51 AM |
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Hear, hear, Gen. Clark! |
kayleybeth |
Aug-05-05 01:29 AM |
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He needs to get off FOX and start getting some serious exposure |
Gloria |
Aug-05-05 01:36 AM |
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I disagree. |
AnnitaR |
Aug-05-05 03:06 AM |
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I think so, too. oem |
yellerpup |
Aug-05-05 09:11 AM |
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Gloria, Wes is needed at Faux for the 2006 elections..... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-05-05 04:28 AM |
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Why do robbers rob banks? 'Cause that's where the money is. |
dogman |
Aug-05-05 07:42 PM |
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sad reality is that there is no plan |
radfringe |
Aug-05-05 05:12 AM |
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Imagine Evan Bayh saying something similar... |
Raiden |
Aug-05-05 05:13 AM |
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I'm suprised that Bayh and the DLC/Blue Dogs haven't.... |
AX10 |
Aug-05-05 11:31 AM |
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Nah, Bayh is too busy comparing Democrats unfavorably w/ Republicans |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 04:40 PM |
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I disagree with Cuz Wesley's plan ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-05-05 05:50 AM |
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And turn it into another Afghanistan? |
Clark2008 |
Aug-05-05 06:36 PM |
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95% of the insurgency is directed at us. |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-05-05 07:24 PM |
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But we tore up their "shit." |
Clark2008 |
Aug-05-05 08:00 PM |
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and the only way we stop tearing up their shit is to leave... |
jonnyblitz |
Aug-05-05 08:51 PM |
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No - we need to rebuild their shit. |
Clark2008 |
Aug-05-05 10:17 PM |
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I disagree ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-05-05 10:38 PM |
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Most of the violence toward US is nationalism |
Clark2008 |
Aug-06-05 12:45 AM |
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do you always make this sort of impression? |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-06-05 01:22 AM |
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No, we should just give them money and let THEM repair it. |
eridani |
Aug-06-05 06:31 AM |
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is it any better than Afghanistan now? |
jonnyblitz |
Aug-05-05 08:49 PM |
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A friend of mine with whom I work was a POW during Vietnam ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-05-05 10:40 PM |
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Damn, that man is good. He has a great flair for turning a phrase. |
tsuki |
Aug-05-05 06:52 AM |
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Didn't he try and start WW3 in Kosovo ? |
Catchawave |
Aug-05-05 09:14 AM |
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No. |
Sparkly |
Aug-05-05 09:16 AM |
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Kosovo was a NATO action |
DoYouEverWonder |
Aug-05-05 10:38 AM |
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Aug-05-05 11:05 AM |
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What's your purpose in flaming this thread? I see you're a "newbie"... |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 11:25 AM |
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Yeah, there used to be another Milosevic apologist here |
QC |
Aug-05-05 11:33 AM |
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Aug-05-05 11:53 AM |
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Oh please give it a rest. |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 12:08 PM |
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Do you take that same argument with the Iraq war? |
inthebrain |
Aug-05-05 12:20 PM |
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You sound so familiar...and your personal attacks are familiar, too |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 12:42 PM |
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"only sith lords speak in absolutes!!!!" |
QC |
Aug-05-05 12:43 PM |
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LOL! |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 01:08 PM |
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Aug-05-05 11:39 AM |
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No, he didn't. |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-05-05 01:02 PM |
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Same old shit. No comment that the war is illegal and immoral, just |
leesa |
Aug-05-05 11:58 AM |
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Clark is defending Democrats against a Republican meme... |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 12:17 PM |
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Resolve for what? Plan for what? |
goodhue |
Aug-05-05 12:20 PM |
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Repeat: Wes Clark is defending Democrats against a GOP meme |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 12:30 PM |
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We can't and won't win peace with a military occupation. |
goodhue |
Aug-05-05 02:11 PM |
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We can win peace with what General Clark has mentioned in his letter |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 02:30 PM |
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So Wes is in favor of increasing troop strength and making |
SonofMass |
Aug-05-05 12:41 PM |
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He is for training Iraqis faster so we can leave Iraq faster |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 12:47 PM |
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Clark was never an anti-war candidate |
quinnox |
Aug-05-05 12:48 PM |
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I can see that. |
SonofMass |
Aug-05-05 12:52 PM |
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I can see that some are just interested in attacking Clark's supporters |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 01:07 PM |
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Nobody is attacking Clark supporters |
inthebrain |
Aug-05-05 01:59 PM |
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I'm really supposed to expect a reasoned debate and discussion |
Crunchy Frog |
Aug-05-05 02:36 PM |
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You've come here to attack Clark supporters, too? One thread isn't enough? |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 01:00 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
quinnox |
Aug-05-05 01:05 PM |
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You have posted bashing remarks about Clarkies consistently today |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 01:19 PM |
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So? |
quinnox |
Aug-05-05 01:28 PM |
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It means you are jumping from one Clark thread to another |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 01:37 PM |
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Let me be clear |
quinnox |
Aug-05-05 01:48 PM |
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Let me be clearer...you asked for proof and I provided it |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 02:06 PM |
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It has been fun but I have to watch |
quinnox |
Aug-05-05 02:10 PM |
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I love Deep Space Nine |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 02:16 PM |
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self-delete (dupe) |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 02:06 PM |
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I think there was only a few anti war candidate in the last race.... |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-05-05 01:04 PM |
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Generals generally hate wars |
Donna Zen |
Aug-05-05 01:36 PM |
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answers |
quinnox |
Aug-05-05 01:43 PM |
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In Winning Modern Wars, at one point Clark argues that the US |
1932 |
Aug-05-05 02:16 PM |
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"...he would use force if necessary..." |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-05-05 02:50 PM |
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Clark is our best choice. |
AX10 |
Aug-05-05 05:23 PM |
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This is Clarks plan |
HootieMcBoob |
Aug-05-05 02:21 PM |
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And the Corporate media tries to say |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-05-05 02:34 PM |
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How about Democrats articulating better when they go on TV? |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-05-05 02:38 PM |
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That's just more anti-Clark/anti-Clarkie BS |
Jai4WKC08 |
Aug-05-05 06:19 PM |
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Never said he was. |
Clark2008 |
Aug-05-05 06:51 PM |
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What Letter are you reading? |
Donna Zen |
Aug-05-05 01:18 PM |
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Reading is not part of the excercise |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-05-05 01:26 PM |
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OMG! |
Donna Zen |
Aug-05-05 01:49 PM |
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It will all end when everyone is perfect, ie. dead, |
MissMarple |
Aug-05-05 02:13 PM |
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WSJ |
haypops |
Aug-05-05 01:37 PM |
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haypops, welcome to DU! |
MissMarple |
Aug-05-05 02:03 PM |
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You're right. Welcome to DU, haypops! |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-06-05 04:27 PM |
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I LUV Wes Clark And Supported Him In the Primary in 2004 |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-05-05 02:10 PM |
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Luv your handle, your politics, |
LandOLincoln |
Aug-05-05 02:56 PM |
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Thanks. |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-05-05 06:17 PM |
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I second that. Welcome to DU, Atomic Kitten! |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-06-05 02:23 PM |
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I like the shirt |
FreedomAngel82 |
Aug-05-05 11:43 PM |
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Way to Go, Gen Clark! |
zidzi |
Aug-05-05 08:48 PM |
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John Kerry presented a plan for Iraq during the election and |
wisteria |
Aug-05-05 10:47 PM |
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Aug-06-05 12:56 AM |
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Kerry was at the Senate hearings |
wiley |
Aug-06-05 02:10 AM |
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Fox will fire him and hire Novak |
splat@14 |
Aug-06-05 10:43 AM |
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This is a great letter. Also, a point that is overlooked while Dems are |
Misskittycat |
Aug-06-05 11:37 AM |
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So Wes Clark belongs to the "I can fight this war better than Bush" crowd |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-06-05 12:02 PM |
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Wrong. He is defending Democrats against a persistent GOP meme |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-06-05 12:32 PM |
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"a secure, stable Iraq with a representative government" is a pipe dream! |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-06-05 02:26 PM |
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You may well be right |
Jai4WKC08 |
Aug-06-05 03:08 PM |
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"FIGHT this war better"? Hardly. |
Jai4WKC08 |
Aug-06-05 12:38 PM |
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