Eloriel
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Sun Jul-24-05 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 81. Dean's elecrtion as DNC chair went a long way toward helping |
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to shut them down, IMO. It may not have been a total victory, but it was most certainly a start. Think about it: they no longer totally control the DNC. The PEOPLE spoke and said, "No! We want a man of the People. We want our party back."
Our job is to support Dean and the DNC as much as we can, along with organizations like Democracy for America (Dean's old org) which helps support Dean-style and other non-DLC candidates.
We especially have to do this because otherwise, it's back to the corporations for the DNC too. We've GOT to make the DNC self-supporting without corporate influence.
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| -My first exposure to the DLC |
chaumont58 |
Jul-23-05 11:09 PM |
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Well, we need at least one link to start a discussion.... |
whistle |
Jul-23-05 11:13 PM |
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After what we've been through the past 4-1/2 years, |
8_year_nightmare |
Jul-23-05 11:14 PM |
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Seems as if you drank it yourself. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-23-05 11:25 PM |
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My apologies. I thought the original post was about the DNC. |
8_year_nightmare |
Jul-24-05 02:09 AM |
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The DLC deserves a lot of the blame for that. |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jul-23-05 11:26 PM |
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That says more than enough- |
Al-CIAda |
Jul-24-05 12:00 AM |
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Ew. The DLC is in even more urgent need of a purge than I thought. |
magellan |
Jul-24-05 12:22 AM |
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Not purge -- your graphic touches on the best approach |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 02:17 PM |
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Something else I'm wondering |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jul-24-05 12:23 AM |
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Biden has signed at least one of their declairations in the past. |
Al-CIAda |
Jul-24-05 12:32 AM |
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I remember after last November |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jul-24-05 12:20 AM |
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Dean's chairmanship was a coup. |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:16 PM |
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It absolutely was a coup -- well said |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 02:43 PM |
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It was a fantastic victory over the DLC. |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:48 PM |
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Kerry wasn't the most DLC of available candidates, and nothing was going |
1932 |
Jul-24-05 01:30 AM |
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You're right -- not even honesty, integrity, playing by the rules, |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 02:50 PM |
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Notwithstanding Dean's early strength, I can't think of any set of circum- |
1932 |
Jul-24-05 06:11 PM |
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Wow, I didn't know about Marshall's latest foray into fascism. |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:12 PM |
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Interestingly Kerry dod not vote for most of these things you quote |
Mass |
Jul-24-05 06:08 PM |
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chaumont58... |
larissa |
Jul-23-05 11:30 PM |
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I'd be voting with ammo in a revolution |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jul-23-05 11:32 PM |
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I, and others I talk to are starting to wonder. |
gumby |
Jul-24-05 12:01 AM |
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well, I'm also starting to wonder... |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 07:30 AM |
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How about we don't let corporations influence public debate? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jul-24-05 01:04 PM |
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This is not a question that you want to ask. |
cornermouse |
Jul-24-05 09:08 AM |
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False choice |
Demgirl |
Jul-25-05 04:21 PM |
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Your whole post tells us just about nothing. |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-23-05 11:57 PM |
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You're right... he gives ZERO examples... |
larissa |
Jul-24-05 12:00 AM |
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Don't know about all those elected officials, |
gumby |
Jul-24-05 12:09 AM |
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Chaumont... |
larissa |
Jul-24-05 12:15 AM |
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Damn, advanced stages...the cancer may be malignant. n/t |
Al-CIAda |
Jul-24-05 12:13 AM |
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OMG!!!! The Mayor of Laredo supports the DLC!!!!! |
bvar22 |
Jul-24-05 12:30 AM |
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Great list, but it actually supports the OP view |
burythehatchet |
Jul-24-05 09:07 AM |
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DLC is better than Republican |
KingFlorez |
Jul-24-05 12:16 AM |
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You're right King.. |
larissa |
Jul-24-05 12:21 AM |
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You're Right |
Don1 |
Jul-24-05 12:57 AM |
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Just to be accurate, the DLCer mentioned merely HOSTED a PNACer. |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:22 PM |
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WRONG! The DLC is trying to ruin the DNC's grassroots effort. |
Carolab |
Jul-24-05 12:39 AM |
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I'm with you on that Carolab |
bearfan454 |
Jul-24-05 01:20 PM |
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Specifics? I don't doubt it for a minute, |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 03:01 PM |
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The Nation had a good article about the DLC a few weeks back. |
Carolab |
Jul-24-05 11:21 PM |
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Real Democrat is much better DLC |
rman |
Jul-24-05 04:35 AM |
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Uh, noooooo. DLC pretty much IS Republican |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 02:58 PM |
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Here's a snip of one article: |
Lorien |
Jul-24-05 01:18 AM |
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Thank you! |
wryter2000 |
Jul-24-05 12:05 PM |
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Well, Bill Clinton (who made the DLC famous, not the other way around)... |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:32 PM |
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"(who made the DLC famous, not the other way around)..." |
wryter2000 |
Jul-24-05 05:09 PM |
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He gets it wrong pretty fast... |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:27 PM |
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The DLC is a malignant cancer on the Democratic party |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jul-24-05 03:25 AM |
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I'm betting you Think JFK was a Cancer then??? |
IndianaDemocrat |
Jul-24-05 01:40 PM |
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Echoing Republicans to win elections isn't winning. |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:34 PM |
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We are not posturing, and neither is Dean. Forget their perception. |
madfloridian |
Jul-25-05 01:01 AM |
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The DLC are nothing but GOP/AEI moles |
wli |
Jul-24-05 04:13 AM |
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I would say some of THIS stuff could be written by freepers |
brentspeak |
Jul-24-05 04:16 AM |
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The same thought occured to me... |
T Town Jake |
Jul-24-05 05:19 AM |
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Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with the feeling of |
cornermouse |
Jul-24-05 09:41 AM |
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As a Liberal Independent I owe no fealty to the Democratic Party |
magellan |
Jul-24-05 05:44 AM |
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how did you draw that conclusion from that post? |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 07:27 AM |
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It just struck me as one of those "You must vote Democrat... |
magellan |
Jul-25-05 12:52 AM |
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OT: I love your avatar! |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:36 PM |
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Deceitful Little Conservatives |
mmonk |
Jul-24-05 05:10 AM |
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So im assuming that soon to be Gov. Spitzer... |
liberaliraqvet26 |
Jul-24-05 05:58 AM |
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The malignant cancer on the party are ... |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 07:40 AM |
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Oh so here you are again.. doing the job as a DLC functionary. |
radio4progressives |
Jul-25-05 12:12 AM |
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Name removed |
Jul-25-05 04:53 AM |
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Actually, liberaliraqvet26 |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 05:22 PM |
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Al From, yes |
Demgirl |
Jul-25-05 04:23 PM |
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Funding from the Koch brothers should tell you plenty |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-24-05 07:21 AM |
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Like Howard Dean, you mean? |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 07:24 AM |
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Busy thread for you! |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-24-05 01:08 PM |
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Dean's our |
zidzi |
Jul-24-05 02:34 PM |
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you mean like Howard Dean? |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 05:58 PM |
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You need to stop that Koch stuff. |
madfloridian |
Jul-25-05 01:03 AM |
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no I don't. |
wyldwolf |
Jul-25-05 04:55 AM |
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More of the same |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 07:23 AM |
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i have one answer for you ...joe lieberman and his ilk |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-24-05 10:00 AM |
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aside from his support of the Iraq war... |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 06:01 PM |
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kerry and edwards like most democrats voted to give the president |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-25-05 03:11 PM |
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My problem with the DLC is their unwavering support for "free trade" and |
gulfcoastliberal |
Jul-24-05 12:22 PM |
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How 'bout what all Democrats should NOT be |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 06:02 PM |
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ok, point by point: |
wyldwolf |
Jul-24-05 06:07 PM |
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"Democratic party should put national interests above special interests" |
Zhade |
Jul-25-05 02:06 PM |
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The Iraq war had fuckall to do with the removal of Hussein |
eridani |
Jul-25-05 06:21 AM |
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The DLC seems to have two jobs: |
Q |
Jul-24-05 08:52 AM |
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Excellent post. n/t |
Al-CIAda |
Jul-24-05 10:57 AM |
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Maybe we could start an alternative? |
emcguffie |
Jul-24-05 11:10 AM |
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Dean's elecrtion as DNC chair went a long way toward helping |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 06:12 PM |
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The problem is that the 'party bosses' had no control over Dean... |
Q |
Jul-24-05 06:31 PM |
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So Dean sold out? |
tommcintyre |
Jul-25-05 04:13 PM |
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DLC candidates lose |
Demgirl |
Jul-25-05 04:29 PM |
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Gotta agree with you once again Q |
Lorien |
Jul-24-05 01:01 PM |
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I have a slightly different view in one regard... |
Zhade |
Jul-24-05 02:44 PM |
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Right. And here's an example of their ongoing war on Dean |
Eloriel |
Jul-24-05 06:43 PM |
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The DLC loses nothing having Dean as Chair... |
Q |
Jul-24-05 11:35 PM |
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I have to disagree... |
Q |
Jul-25-05 07:29 AM |
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Yep. They're the "Zell-its" of the Democratic Party. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-24-05 02:47 PM |
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Same here, TN. Same here. |
Zhade |
Jul-25-05 02:10 PM |
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HALLELUJAH! |
d_b |
Jul-25-05 06:33 AM |
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Some readings from the DLC web site |
chaumont58 |
Jul-24-05 09:22 AM |
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thank you for steppin up to the plate |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-24-05 10:06 AM |
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More like |
Don1 |
Jul-24-05 10:44 PM |
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The last 30 years Dems have been "reactionary" -- |
emcguffie |
Jul-24-05 11:09 AM |
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Being able to see something and doing something about it... |
Q |
Jul-25-05 07:21 AM |
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go here |
xxqqqzme |
Jul-25-05 04:44 PM |
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