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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:44 AM
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32. As a Liberal Independent I owe no fealty to the Democratic Party
I'm here because they're the closest thing to a viable opposition party this country's got. Democrats like Conyers, McKinney and Boxer reflect my values; the DLC does not. Does that mean I'm not welcome?
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  -My first exposure to the DLC chaumont58  Jul-23-05 11:09 PM   #0 
  - Well, we need at least one link to start a discussion....  whistle   Jul-23-05 11:13 PM   #1 
  - After what we've been through the past 4-1/2 years,  8_year_nightmare   Jul-23-05 11:14 PM   #2 
  - Seems as if you drank it yourself.  Jim Sagle   Jul-23-05 11:25 PM   #3 
  - My apologies. I thought the original post was about the DNC.  8_year_nightmare   Jul-24-05 02:09 AM   #25 
  - The DLC deserves a lot of the blame for that.  AntiCoup2K4   Jul-23-05 11:26 PM   #4 
  - That says more than enough-  Al-CIAda   Jul-24-05 12:00 AM   #8 
  - Ew. The DLC is in even more urgent need of a purge than I thought.  magellan   Jul-24-05 12:22 AM   #17 
  - Not purge -- your graphic touches on the best approach  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 02:17 PM   #59 
  - Something else I'm wondering  FreedomAngel82   Jul-24-05 12:23 AM   #18 
     - Biden has signed at least one of their declairations in the past.  Al-CIAda   Jul-24-05 12:32 AM   #20 
  - I remember after last November  FreedomAngel82   Jul-24-05 12:20 AM   #15 
  - Dean's chairmanship was a coup.  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:16 PM   #58 
     - It absolutely was a coup -- well said  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 02:43 PM   #66 
        - It was a fantastic victory over the DLC.  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:48 PM   #69 
  - Kerry wasn't the most DLC of available candidates, and nothing was going  1932   Jul-24-05 01:30 AM   #24 
  - You're right -- not even honesty, integrity, playing by the rules,  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 02:50 PM   #70 
     - Notwithstanding Dean's early strength, I can't think of any set of circum-  1932   Jul-24-05 06:11 PM   #80 
  - Wow, I didn't know about Marshall's latest foray into fascism.  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:12 PM   #57 
  - Interestingly Kerry dod not vote for most of these things you quote  Mass   Jul-24-05 06:08 PM   #79 
  - chaumont58...  larissa   Jul-23-05 11:30 PM   #5 
     - I'd be voting with ammo in a revolution  AntiCoup2K4   Jul-23-05 11:32 PM   #6 
     - I, and others I talk to are starting to wonder.  gumby   Jul-24-05 12:01 AM   #10 
     - well, I'm also starting to wonder...  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 07:30 AM   #38 
        - How about we don't let corporations influence public debate?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jul-24-05 01:04 PM   #53 
     - This is not a question that you want to ask.  cornermouse   Jul-24-05 09:08 AM   #42 
     - False choice  Demgirl   Jul-25-05 04:21 PM   #101 
  - Your whole post tells us just about nothing.  LoZoccolo   Jul-23-05 11:57 PM   #7 
  - You're right... he gives ZERO examples...  larissa   Jul-24-05 12:00 AM   #9 
     - Don't know about all those elected officials,  gumby   Jul-24-05 12:09 AM   #11 
     - Chaumont...  larissa   Jul-24-05 12:15 AM   #13 
     - Damn, advanced stages...the cancer may be malignant. n/t  Al-CIAda   Jul-24-05 12:13 AM   #12 
     - OMG!!!! The Mayor of Laredo supports the DLC!!!!!  bvar22   Jul-24-05 12:30 AM   #19 
     - Great list, but it actually supports the OP view  burythehatchet   Jul-24-05 09:07 AM   #41 
  - DLC is better than Republican  KingFlorez   Jul-24-05 12:16 AM   #14 
  - You're right King..  larissa   Jul-24-05 12:21 AM   #16 
  - You're Right  Don1   Jul-24-05 12:57 AM   #22 
     - Just to be accurate, the DLCer mentioned merely HOSTED a PNACer.  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:22 PM   #60 
  - WRONG! The DLC is trying to ruin the DNC's grassroots effort.  Carolab   Jul-24-05 12:39 AM   #21 
  - I'm with you on that Carolab  bearfan454   Jul-24-05 01:20 PM   #55 
  - Specifics? I don't doubt it for a minute,  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 03:01 PM   #72 
     - The Nation had a good article about the DLC a few weeks back.  Carolab   Jul-24-05 11:21 PM   #85 
  - Real Democrat is much better DLC  rman   Jul-24-05 04:35 AM   #29 
  - Uh, noooooo. DLC pretty much IS Republican  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 02:58 PM   #71 
  - Here's a snip of one article:  Lorien   Jul-24-05 01:18 AM   #23 
  - Thank you!  wryter2000   Jul-24-05 12:05 PM   #50 
  - Well, Bill Clinton (who made the DLC famous, not the other way around)...  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:32 PM   #62 
     - "(who made the DLC famous, not the other way around)..."  wryter2000   Jul-24-05 05:09 PM   #73 
  - He gets it wrong pretty fast...  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:27 PM   #61 
  - The DLC is a malignant cancer on the Democratic party  AntiCoup2K4   Jul-24-05 03:25 AM   #26 
  - I'm betting you Think JFK was a Cancer then???  IndianaDemocrat   Jul-24-05 01:40 PM   #56 
     - Echoing Republicans to win elections isn't winning.  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:34 PM   #63 
     - We are not posturing, and neither is Dean. Forget their perception.  madfloridian   Jul-25-05 01:01 AM   #89 
  - The DLC are nothing but GOP/AEI moles  wli   Jul-24-05 04:13 AM   #27 
  - I would say some of THIS stuff could be written by freepers  brentspeak   Jul-24-05 04:16 AM   #28 
  - The same thought occured to me...  T Town Jake   Jul-24-05 05:19 AM   #31 
  - Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with the feeling of  cornermouse   Jul-24-05 09:41 AM   #44 
  - As a Liberal Independent I owe no fealty to the Democratic Party  magellan   Jul-24-05 05:44 AM   #32 
     - how did you draw that conclusion from that post?  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 07:27 AM   #37 
     - It just struck me as one of those "You must vote Democrat...  magellan   Jul-25-05 12:52 AM   #88 
     - OT: I love your avatar!  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:36 PM   #65 
  - Deceitful Little Conservatives  mmonk   Jul-24-05 05:10 AM   #30 
  - So im assuming that soon to be Gov. Spitzer...  liberaliraqvet26   Jul-24-05 05:58 AM   #33 
  - The malignant cancer on the party are ...  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 07:40 AM   #39 
  - Oh so here you are again.. doing the job as a DLC functionary.  radio4progressives   Jul-25-05 12:12 AM   #87 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-05 04:53 AM   #91 
  - Actually, liberaliraqvet26  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 05:22 PM   #74 
  - Al From, yes  Demgirl   Jul-25-05 04:23 PM   #102 
  - Funding from the Koch brothers should tell you plenty  JNelson6563   Jul-24-05 07:21 AM   #34 
  - Like Howard Dean, you mean?  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 07:24 AM   #36 
     - Busy thread for you!  JNelson6563   Jul-24-05 01:08 PM   #54 
     - Dean's our  zidzi   Jul-24-05 02:34 PM   #64 
     - you mean like Howard Dean?  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 05:58 PM   #75 
     - You need to stop that Koch stuff.  madfloridian   Jul-25-05 01:03 AM   #90 
        - no I don't.  wyldwolf   Jul-25-05 04:55 AM   #92 
  - More of the same  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 07:23 AM   #35 
  - i have one answer for you ...joe lieberman and his ilk  ooglymoogly   Jul-24-05 10:00 AM   #45 
  - aside from his support of the Iraq war...  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 06:01 PM   #76 
     - kerry and edwards like most democrats voted to give the president  ooglymoogly   Jul-25-05 03:11 PM   #99 
  - My problem with the DLC is their unwavering support for "free trade" and  gulfcoastliberal   Jul-24-05 12:22 PM   #51 
  - How 'bout what all Democrats should NOT be  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 06:02 PM   #77 
     - ok, point by point:  wyldwolf   Jul-24-05 06:07 PM   #78 
     - "Democratic party should put national interests above special interests"  Zhade   Jul-25-05 02:06 PM   #97 
     - The Iraq war had fuckall to do with the removal of Hussein  eridani   Jul-25-05 06:21 AM   #93 
  - The DLC seems to have two jobs:  Q   Jul-24-05 08:52 AM   #40 
  - Excellent post. n/t  Al-CIAda   Jul-24-05 10:57 AM   #47 
  - Maybe we could start an alternative?  emcguffie   Jul-24-05 11:10 AM   #49 
  - Dean's elecrtion as DNC chair went a long way toward helping  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 06:12 PM   #81 
  - The problem is that the 'party bosses' had no control over Dean...  Q   Jul-24-05 06:31 PM   #82 
     - So Dean sold out?  tommcintyre   Jul-25-05 04:13 PM   #100 
  - DLC candidates lose  Demgirl   Jul-25-05 04:29 PM   #103 
  - Gotta agree with you once again Q  Lorien   Jul-24-05 01:01 PM   #52 
  - I have a slightly different view in one regard...  Zhade   Jul-24-05 02:44 PM   #67 
  - Right. And here's an example of their ongoing war on Dean  Eloriel   Jul-24-05 06:43 PM   #83 
  - The DLC loses nothing having Dean as Chair...  Q   Jul-24-05 11:35 PM   #86 
  - I have to disagree...  Q   Jul-25-05 07:29 AM   #96 
  - Yep. They're the "Zell-its" of the Democratic Party.  TahitiNut   Jul-24-05 02:47 PM   #68 
  - Same here, TN. Same here.  Zhade   Jul-25-05 02:10 PM   #98 
  - HALLELUJAH!  d_b   Jul-25-05 06:33 AM   #94 
  - Some readings from the DLC web site  chaumont58   Jul-24-05 09:22 AM   #43 
  - thank you for steppin up to the plate  ooglymoogly   Jul-24-05 10:06 AM   #46 
     - More like  Don1   Jul-24-05 10:44 PM   #84 
  - The last 30 years Dems have been "reactionary" --  emcguffie   Jul-24-05 11:09 AM   #48 
  - Being able to see something and doing something about it...  Q   Jul-25-05 07:21 AM   #95 
  - go here  xxqqqzme   Jul-25-05 04:44 PM   #104 
 

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