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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:34 PM
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6. Our leadership really, really blows.
I'm way past fed up with the morons at the DLC (Democrats Lose Constantly). They evidently must think that one needs no tactics or strategy to win any debate. I now see the light. One needs no facts or logic in convincing voters or winning debates; pretending one is a Republican is all one needs for an assured victory in any environment.

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  -Ken Mehlmen wiped the floor with Tom Vilsack on Late Edition dolstein  Jul-17-05 03:26 PM   #0 
  - Did he mention Poppy Bush FIRED Rove for leaking to Novak?  tjdee   Jul-17-05 03:29 PM   #1 
  - Mehlmen can wipe any floor he wants-NOTHING is changing the facts!  Imagevision   Jul-18-05 10:48 PM   #84 
  - And That's The DLC On Display For You Folks!  BamaLefty   Jul-17-05 03:32 PM   #2 
  - Don't kid yourself -- this is a party-wide problem  dolstein   Jul-17-05 03:36 PM   #8 
  - Well...maybe one...  lateo   Jul-17-05 05:03 PM   #29 
  - Dean follows Lakoff's "re-framing" theory that is why pro-DLC dolstein  Larkspur   Jul-18-05 10:10 AM   #68 
     - But that's just not good enough, Larkspur  Eloriel   Jul-18-05 09:19 PM   #80 
  - In the last eight months, I have had my chain yanked by the DNC  chapel hill dem   Jul-17-05 03:47 PM   #17 
     - You might want to start with the DNC agenda here:  NYCGirl   Jul-17-05 05:06 PM   #30 
     - Thanks for the link. The 10 (or 12) points are good, but too many in  chapel hill dem   Jul-17-05 08:50 PM   #48 
     - Simple. They dont read DU. They watch CNN & read the NY Times.  Dr Fate   Jul-18-05 06:45 PM   #73 
     - Uh, no, you HAVEN'T had your chain yanked by the DNC  Eloriel   Jul-18-05 09:25 PM   #81 
     - You are right -- I should not waste my energy throwing stones, but  chapel hill dem   Jul-19-05 08:29 AM   #87 
     - I have posted this a couple of times. Dean mentioned 4  yurbud   Jul-19-05 11:29 PM   #93 
  - They need to turn to old Gumby and say:  FormerRepublican   Jul-17-05 03:33 PM   #3 
  - perfect response. nt  ooglymoogly   Jul-17-05 07:21 PM   #42 
  - It's obvious  Mythsaje   Jul-17-05 03:33 PM   #4 
  - 1. Joe Wilson didn't leak a spy's name 2. Ask McCain's "illegitimate  emulatorloo   Jul-17-05 03:33 PM   #5 
  - Our leadership really, really blows.  JHBowden   Jul-17-05 03:34 PM   #6 
  - The DLC... Jesse Jacson nailed it spot on...  Flubadubya   Jul-17-05 04:45 PM   #27 
  - I also read that Brit Hume of Faux news mopped the floor with.........  TheDebbieDee   Jul-17-05 03:34 PM   #7 
  - I actually thought Russert slapped Mehlman upside the head today  Zen Democrat   Jul-17-05 03:38 PM   #9 
  - Yeah, Podesta was sharp this morning.  JHBowden   Jul-17-05 03:39 PM   #13 
     - What Podesta did was perfect.  DemsUnited   Jul-17-05 04:53 PM   #28 
  - These politicans have not a clue how to  KC21304   Jul-17-05 03:39 PM   #10 
  - We had six months to respond to the $87 billion question in 2004...  nyhuskyfan   Jul-17-05 03:53 PM   #18 
  - And this would be a surprise because .......... ?  Husb2Sparkly   Jul-17-05 03:39 PM   #11 
  - try GOP/AEI moles  wli   Jul-17-05 03:44 PM   #16 
  - Agree . I used to argue for a viable third party, but to get there we'll  Burried News   Jul-17-05 09:25 PM   #54 
     - the electoral system is exploitable  wli   Jul-18-05 05:46 PM   #70 
  - that's it in a nutshell  FLDem5   Jul-17-05 09:14 PM   #52 
  - Spin really takes a back seat in this one.  Skip Intro   Jul-17-05 03:39 PM   #12 
  - Fitzgerald couldn't care less  zidzi   Jul-17-05 04:42 PM   #25 
  - did you ever think that just maybe that was the idea from CNN  still_one   Jul-17-05 03:42 PM   #14 
  - why don't they simply point out that Joe Wilson has NOTHING..  mike_c   Jul-17-05 03:44 PM   #15 
  - Frankly, I don't think that's good enough  dolstein   Jul-17-05 03:55 PM   #19 
  - but by following that lead, dems allow repubs to frame the issue...  mike_c   Jul-17-05 04:06 PM   #22 
  - It's a tough call because  Yupster   Jul-19-05 11:17 PM   #90 
  - They're trying to smear Wilson, and they have never stopped  Al-CIAda   Jul-17-05 06:05 PM   #36 
  - Mehlman Is A Big, Big Liar....  GR   Jul-17-05 03:55 PM   #20 
  - Yes it was amazing to watch the lies and spin flow out of Mehlman's  Lecky   Jul-18-05 03:36 AM   #65 
  - I don't think they do their homework  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-17-05 03:57 PM   #21 
  - The DLC/Vilsack is pro-corporate, their homework is not progressive  Robbien   Jul-17-05 04:10 PM   #23 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-20-05 12:10 AM   #94 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-22-05 05:31 PM   #95 
  - Why don't we have designated speakers on key issues, train them,  Gloria   Jul-17-05 04:37 PM   #24 
  - Agreed. We have a lot of really talented talking heads in the party...  Telly Savalas   Jul-18-05 10:56 PM   #85 
  - Well Vilsack won't offend the Rethugs  JNelson6563   Jul-17-05 04:43 PM   #26 
  - Nope...when he repeated over and over "We Democrats are Doing People's  KoKo01   Jul-17-05 07:34 PM   #46 
  - Mehlman being a fucking liar makes him nothing more than a scumbag  zulchzulu   Jul-17-05 05:06 PM   #31 
  - Lol  Catrina   Jul-17-05 06:05 PM   #35 
  - Do me a favor dolstein  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-17-05 05:23 PM   #32 
  - I don't have time for specifics, but I thought Podesta was pretty good  dolstein   Jul-17-05 10:36 PM   #58 
     - Thanks  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-17-05 10:53 PM   #60 
  - Very good talking points Dolstein  Lefty48197   Jul-17-05 05:26 PM   #33 
  - our side is LAZY ...  Pepperbelly   Jul-17-05 05:32 PM   #34 
  - I agree... these mealy-mouth, meak-as-lambs, weak-as-dishwater  Totally Committed   Jul-17-05 06:19 PM   #37 
     - Why don't the networks and cable ever have Bernie Ward on?  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-17-05 06:51 PM   #38 
        - That is, when they have a single Democrat on at all.  TankLV   Jul-18-05 10:06 PM   #83 
  - It's very simple.  cat_girl25   Jul-17-05 07:05 PM   #39 
  - The newest dive taking appeaser from the Democratically devisive DLC. n/t  Al-CIAda   Jul-17-05 07:17 PM   #41 
  - Tom Vilsack  fujiyama   Jul-18-05 08:41 PM   #78 
  - Vilsack was playing nice and  pdxmom   Jul-17-05 07:13 PM   #40 
  - You're giving Mehlman too much credit dolstein  larissa   Jul-17-05 07:23 PM   #43 
  - IMO more accurate...Mehlman was broad side of barn, Vilsack  pgh_dem   Jul-17-05 10:14 PM   #56 
  - anybody who cannot beat ken mehlman in a debate  ooglymoogly   Jul-17-05 07:24 PM   #44 
  - Dolstein...  KoKo01   Jul-17-05 07:31 PM   #45 
  - When a Republican debates a DINO, of course the Republican  geek tragedy   Jul-17-05 07:43 PM   #47 
  - What is the dems major malfunction when it comes to debunking a puke  gulfcoastliberal   Jul-17-05 09:02 PM   #49 
  - That's a good question, and dolstein has a good point.  Sparkly   Jul-17-05 09:09 PM   #51 
  - We are the voice of the Democrats!!!  usregimechange   Jul-17-05 09:04 PM   #50 
  - Hold on, here. Just how did Mehlman "wipe the floor"  brentspeak   Jul-17-05 09:19 PM   #53 
  - they didn't debate...King let Mehlman spew for 10-15 min  pgh_dem   Jul-17-05 10:19 PM   #57 
     - I wasn't paying much attention to Vilsack  Lecky   Jul-18-05 03:48 AM   #66 
        - Agree 100% on Mehlman's pathological lying...but it works if not called  pgh_dem   Jul-18-05 09:07 AM   #67 
  - We really need Randi Rhodes to make the rounds on this  Quixote1818   Jul-17-05 09:36 PM   #55 
  - As much as we'd like to think we're playing offense in this scandal mill..  formernaderite   Jul-17-05 10:40 PM   #59 
  - All that really matters is what happens after the indictments  Zensea   Jul-17-05 11:07 PM   #61 
  - The court of public opinion is still the highest in the land.  Dr Fate   Jul-18-05 06:49 PM   #74 
     - True, but I did say After the indictments...  Zensea   Jul-18-05 07:18 PM   #76 
        - Okay- I'll buy that for a dollar. n/t  Dr Fate   Jul-18-05 07:20 PM   #77 
  - Won't amount to a hill'a'beans once the indictments come...  Kazak   Jul-17-05 11:23 PM   #62 
  - Vilsak is DLC  IndianaGreen   Jul-18-05 12:00 AM   #63 
  - I thought that the author of this thread was pro-DLC.  David Zephyr   Jul-18-05 06:01 PM   #71 
     - Hate to point this out, but this has nothing to do with the DLC  dolstein   Jul-19-05 11:27 PM   #92 
  - The Black Caucus should propose somebody  burrowowl   Jul-18-05 12:37 AM   #64 
  - How I miss Ron Brown. He was a total Pro.  Robeson   Jul-18-05 09:31 PM   #82 
  - I thought Mehlman handed Podesta his lunch yesterday too  enough already   Jul-18-05 10:20 AM   #69 
  - Why is their defense of leaking Plame's identity to attack Wilson?  LittleClarkie   Jul-18-05 06:06 PM   #72 
  - Mehlman got his talking points to his soldiers. Dean needs to do the same.  blm   Jul-18-05 06:55 PM   #75 
  - Republicans are more adept at lying...  Andromeda   Jul-18-05 09:12 PM   #79 
  - God, Would I Love A Dean/Mehlman Confrontation!  Edgewater_Joe   Jul-18-05 10:58 PM   #86 
  - You've got to be kidding -- Dean would get crushed  dolstein   Jul-19-05 02:09 PM   #88 
     - I'd Put My Condo On Dean  Edgewater_Joe   Jul-19-05 10:43 PM   #89 
  - this is what Howard Dean should be doing for Dems  yurbud   Jul-19-05 11:23 PM   #91 
  - The republicans prepare their guys for these shows,  agincourt   Jul-22-05 05:45 PM   #96 
  - ROFL! Is this a repeat of last week when Mehlman wiped the floor with  KoKo01   Jul-22-05 05:50 PM   #97 
 

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