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69. That seems like a phrase designed to muddy the waters. n/t
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  -Anyone hear Vilsak (new DLC Head) use the term "Progressive Centrists?" KoKo01  Jul-17-05 01:13 PM   #0 
  - Mush from the wimp.  Cassandra   Jul-17-05 01:14 PM   #1 
  - Vilsak was annoying. I was ticked.  Chipper Chat   Jul-17-05 01:18 PM   #2 
  - Hellllooooo....you're confusing the letters...  NYCGirl   Jul-17-05 01:37 PM   #11 
     - I know the DLC is a Dem Gov group.  Chipper Chat   Jul-17-05 01:43 PM   #14 
        - The DLC are not exactly big fans of Howard Dean.  NYCGirl   Jul-17-05 02:09 PM   #24 
  - How can you have a progressive centrist?  merwin   Jul-17-05 01:19 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-17-05 01:22 PM   #5 
     - It's like their bogus "Progressive Policy Institute," which is  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-17-05 02:53 PM   #29 
        - Well, yeah - Will Marshall has endorsed PNAC statements.  Zhade   Jul-17-05 03:52 PM   #40 
  - what is a centrist anyway?  DanCa   Jul-17-05 01:21 PM   #4 
  - centrist:  cyberpj   Jul-17-05 01:28 PM   #8 
     - Gotcha  DanCa   Jul-17-05 01:32 PM   #9 
        - xoxoxox  cyberpj   Jul-17-05 01:36 PM   #10 
           - Agreed :D  DanCa   Jul-17-05 01:54 PM   #16 
  - Yes, but that is the second time I have heard that phrase  WatchWhatISay   Jul-17-05 01:25 PM   #6 
  - Do you remember who used it yesterday?  KoKo01   Jul-17-05 01:55 PM   #17 
     - It was Vilsack himself Friday on "Inside Politics." Excerpt, link below.  flpoljunkie   Jul-17-05 02:07 PM   #23 
        - Thanks for the link...so the DLC definitely "co-opted" the name that we  KoKo01   Jul-17-05 09:00 PM   #59 
           - No, the name the left actually CREATED decades ago.  Zhade   Jul-17-05 10:56 PM   #68 
           - So lets take back liberal!  iconoclastNYC   Jul-18-05 12:57 PM   #76 
  - That's worth a big snort and a loud giggle!  Pithy Cherub   Jul-17-05 01:27 PM   #7 
  - Too many WORDS being tossed around and not enough ACTION  cyberpj   Jul-17-05 01:37 PM   #12 
  - DLC's gonna have to actually oppose fascism for 'us' to come  pgh_dem   Jul-17-05 02:00 PM   #19 
     - Unfortunately, yes, I do.  cyberpj   Jul-17-05 02:02 PM   #20 
  - vilsack just "DIVIDED"!  zidzi   Jul-17-05 01:40 PM   #13 
  - Dean has been trying to unite the party  Mojambo   Jul-17-05 01:45 PM   #15 
  - RIght on, Dean is keeping the topic about culture of corruption  pgh_dem   Jul-17-05 02:04 PM   #21 
  - Guess who else is talking about corruption  FightinNewDem   Jul-17-05 02:36 PM   #27 
  - He IS deviding -and that is his goal. The 'third way'.  Al-CIAda   Jul-17-05 10:37 PM   #66 
  - "Progressive centrist"? That's differnent. I have heard it get tied to  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-17-05 01:57 PM   #18 
  - the DLC has used the word "progressive" since it's inception in the 80s  wyldwolf   Jul-17-05 02:05 PM   #22 
  - Yes, the Republican Lites have been using it since the 1980s, but  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-17-05 02:56 PM   #30 
     - That's correct. The left didn't "hijack" the term, they came up with it.  Zhade   Jul-17-05 03:16 PM   #33 
     - yes, and the anarchist socialist lites have been using it since 1948...  wyldwolf   Jul-17-05 05:51 PM   #55 
  - That's kind of freaky...  hopein08   Jul-17-05 02:15 PM   #25 
  - Wow, what a blatantly dishonest self-description.  Zhade   Jul-17-05 02:20 PM   #26 
  - Oh please.  tibbir   Jul-17-05 02:44 PM   #28 
  - Vilsack says we can not be angry: from the transcript. I am angry.  madfloridian   Jul-17-05 03:01 PM   #31 
  - King went after Dean. Vilsack DID NOT. Vilsack gave an overview and is on  blm   Jul-17-05 03:18 PM   #34 
  - I was talking about being angry. I am angry at what they've done to us.  madfloridian   Jul-17-05 03:22 PM   #35 
  - I suspect BLM is angry  FightinNewDem   Jul-17-05 03:56 PM   #44 
  - Have you read anything I have written at all.  madfloridian   Jul-17-05 04:00 PM   #46 
     - Did Dean act angry when he was on TV? I thought he looked composed and  blm   Jul-17-05 04:07 PM   #49 
        - blm, I made my points well.  madfloridian   Jul-17-05 04:11 PM   #52 
           - Your points have NOTHING to do with Vilsack's own words.  blm   Jul-17-05 04:18 PM   #53 
  - Because really great leaders are not angry the way King describes. YOU are  blm   Jul-17-05 03:58 PM   #45 
     - Again, Vilsack's own words...".we can't be angry" Yes, we can.  madfloridian   Jul-17-05 04:05 PM   #48 
        - LEADERS can't be angry. Dean wasn't angry when he was interviewed.  blm   Jul-17-05 04:09 PM   #50 
  - Uhhhh, no. If Vilsack is DLC, he and Dean are NOT on the same page  Eloriel   Jul-19-05 03:46 PM   #83 
  - as if he'd dare tell Mehlman to "keep his head down"  thebigidea   Jul-17-05 04:01 PM   #47 
  - Isn't Dean a progressive centrist, himself? If there was no Iraq war how  blm   Jul-17-05 03:11 PM   #32 
  - DLC is pushing CAFTA now. Just in time to help Bush push it through.  madfloridian   Jul-17-05 03:27 PM   #36 
  - Vilsack is against CAFTA. He can think for himself can't he? Does Dean say  blm   Jul-17-05 03:52 PM   #41 
  - Against CAFTA - why was he chosen as their leader?  Zhade   Jul-17-05 03:28 PM   #37 
  - Why did liberals allow a centrist governor to be head of the DNC?  blm   Jul-17-05 03:54 PM   #43 
  - There's a huge difference between "centrist" and "corporatist".  Zhade   Jul-17-05 09:48 PM   #64 
     - The attack was on Vilsack. And I doubt anyone would believe I don't know  blm   Jul-18-05 12:50 PM   #75 
        - Note: I did not attack Vilsack. I questioned him as head of the DLC.  Zhade   Jul-18-05 09:17 PM   #78 
  - The vote on CAFTA was split among the DLCers in the Senate...  Mass   Jul-17-05 04:09 PM   #51 
     - Some haven't gotten it through their head it's GOOD to have left of center  blm   Jul-17-05 04:34 PM   #54 
     - The DLC spirit? That there is whatcha call one of them oxymorans, ain't  acmavm   Jul-17-05 06:07 PM   #58 
     - I for one welcome all opposition to CAFTA, DLC or not!  Zhade   Jul-17-05 09:43 PM   #63 
  - Dean's record  darboy   Jul-18-05 09:31 PM   #80 
     - Dean had a good record and a solidly centrist approach he  blm   Jul-19-05 01:59 PM   #82 
  - If Vilsack is the best the DLC has, then they're toast  Husb2Sparkly   Jul-17-05 03:41 PM   #38 
  - A DLC Progressive Centrist... what the Hell is that?  Neshanic   Jul-17-05 03:49 PM   #39 
  - A lie. A falsehood. An untruth.  Zhade   Jul-17-05 03:53 PM   #42 
  - Here's a suggestion for Vilsak  Demgirl   Jul-17-05 05:55 PM   #56 
  - There is no such thing as a Progressive Centrist...  Totally Committed   Jul-17-05 06:02 PM   #57 
  - You didn't mention one single reason  brentspeak   Jul-17-05 09:08 PM   #60 
  - there is no such thing as a progressive centrist democrat  FLDem5   Jul-17-05 09:17 PM   #61 
  - "progressive centrist" - HA!  annabanana   Jul-17-05 09:19 PM   #62 
  - They've been doing this for a while...  greendog   Jul-17-05 09:48 PM   #65 
  - Why not just call themselves "Progressive Conservatives?"  Gay Green   Jul-17-05 10:49 PM   #67 
  - That seems like a phrase designed to muddy the waters. n/t  Sparkly   Jul-17-05 11:00 PM   #69 
  - Otherwise known as Corporate Sell-Out Psuedo-Progressive  Raiden   Jul-17-05 11:37 PM   #70 
  - I think Robert Reich is the cheerleader for this faux-progressive pro-corp  1932   Jul-18-05 12:14 AM   #71 
  - In other news, Tom Vilsack is boring, and therefore can't be President  Hippo_Tron   Jul-18-05 01:19 AM   #72 
  - Down with the DLC!  burrowowl   Jul-18-05 01:26 AM   #73 
  - This must be "Down on Vilsak" day..  larissa   Jul-18-05 01:28 AM   #74 
  - Why is it Dems vs Repubs  Mary 123   Jul-18-05 01:04 PM   #77 
  - Is that like "Compassionate Conservative"?  Robeson   Jul-18-05 09:21 PM   #79 
  - Nope, Not buying it. Go away DLC.  leesa   Jul-18-05 10:45 PM   #81 
 

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