Reply #107: My point is that there is a margin of fraud

[Hippo_Tron]

I'm not naive enough to believe that there wasn't something fishy in Ohio and possibly in Florida. Had Kerry been up 10 points with little to no undecideds, people (and I mean people other than Jon Conyers, although I mean that with no disrespect to him) would've started asking questions.

Diebold couldn't have made Goldwater beat Johnson, McGovern beat Nixon, Mondale beat Reagan, or even Dukakis beat Bush.

HOWEVER, the sooner we get paper trails, the better AND the sooner we get these assholes out of power the better. The longer they are in power, the more time they have to continue further corrupting the system.