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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:19 PM
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27. Some if not many of them want what Mel Gibson wanted in
that movie about the War of Independance, independance, self-determinism, control of their own economy, and perhaps a little revenge mixed in.

Dueling news sources be damned, real news sources are few and far between.....

"the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
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Samuel P. Huntington

If you ain't prepared to do it right.... or if you just don't give a crap about what comes in the aftermath... then don't do it at all... especially if it is a completely illegal move built on fabrications and fluff.

Take it from someone who lives there.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,966819,00.h...

>>But, again like most, he is bitter about the looting and lawlessness which for the past six weeks have gripped Baghdad. "The Americans are not taking control of the situation and stopping it. There is no way they could wash their hands clean of it," he says. "Two months like this is too much, three months is a disaster."

Electricity is still intermittent at best, government is a long way from restored. Most ministries are gutted, some of them are still smoking. What message does it send to frustrated Iraqis that only the oil ministry has been protected by US troops? Already some are talking of Saddam's era as the good days, Salam says.

The former dictator and his two loathed sons are still on the run. The weapons of mass destruction, the fragile premise on which the war was based, have been not been found. Now some hardline Shia clerics are becoming increasingly fractious, taking advantage of the power vacuum and threatening to ban alcohol, cinema and prostitution on pain of execution. The Baghdad blogger may still have the most important chapters of his diary left to write.<<
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  -Has anyone ever asked; what do the Iraq insurgents want? thebaghwan  Jun-19-05 02:15 AM   #0 
  - Instability  jobycom   Jun-19-05 02:25 AM   #1 
  - They want us to LEAVE.  Skip Intro   Jun-19-05 02:28 AM   #2 
  - AMEN!!! Leave.........................  laugle   Jun-19-05 02:32 AM   #3 
  - They certainly want us not to gain control of Iraq's oil to be sure  Imagevision   Jun-19-05 11:13 AM   #19 
  - Exactly. Why do you refer to the Iraqis as insurgents?  leesa   Jun-19-05 10:08 PM   #31 
  - If a foreign country invaded us  lwfern   Jun-19-05 02:34 AM   #4 
  - This is a good topic for a thread... "If a foreign country invaded us".  4MoronicYears   Jun-19-05 06:47 AM   #7 
  - And what would we do to collaborators?  oblivious   Jun-19-05 09:18 AM   #12 
     - We'd probably have the traditional view of  igil   Jun-19-05 10:51 AM   #17 
  - And... when we fought back their newspapers could call us terrorists...  OneTwentyoNine   Jun-19-05 07:31 AM   #9 
  - It's not like we're fighting the  necso   Jun-19-05 02:42 AM   #5 
  - They're scared  ccbombs   Jun-19-05 03:01 AM   #6 
  - they want to be on the winning side of the gang war  rfkrfk   Jun-19-05 07:18 AM   #8 
  - Some of the answers here are disturbing  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-19-05 08:54 AM   #10 
  - Your points:  4MoronicYears   Jun-19-05 09:33 AM   #13 
  - Your points  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-19-05 09:48 AM   #14 
     - Some if not many of them want what Mel Gibson wanted in  4MoronicYears   Jun-19-05 02:19 PM   #27 
  - You have expressed a reasonable explanation for the situation....  rasputin1952   Jun-19-05 11:13 AM   #20 
  - what's the difference between "insurgents" cutting a head off and the  Imagevision   Jun-19-05 11:23 AM   #21 
  - It's not a matter of romanticising them  lwfern   Jun-19-05 12:12 PM   #22 
  - Broad brushes seldom work well  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-19-05 12:36 PM   #24 
     - Oh, for heaven's sake, no one on DU is romanticising the resistance.  oblivious   Jun-19-05 09:44 PM   #28 
        - The point?  Tom Rinaldo   Jun-19-05 10:00 PM   #29 
           - You waste a lot of words to not say much of anything.  leesa   Jun-19-05 10:06 PM   #30 
  - please, where did you see  annabanana   Jun-19-05 10:15 PM   #32 
  - How about we let the Iraqi people have a July vote: "In or Out"  mtnsnake   Jun-19-05 09:02 AM   #11 
  - They're not a cohesive group; it's civil war under occupation  PurityOfEssence   Jun-19-05 10:10 AM   #15 
  - Ever see  Don1   Jun-19-05 10:23 AM   #16 
  - Why ask, they've said.  igil   Jun-19-05 10:55 AM   #18 
  - It is interesting that, using today's 'modern' language...  Spazito   Jun-19-05 12:22 PM   #23 
  - There was an article recently, I think from Britain  Sparkly   Jun-19-05 12:40 PM   #25 
  - The question in the OP  Karenina   Jun-19-05 01:03 PM   #26 
 

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