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Mon Jun-06-05 10:12 PM
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Actually if all the votes were counted in the 2000 election including the military ballots that were thrown away because of a technicality of not having the right stamp we would have still lost.
We have to be strong and stop acting like kids crying over spoiled milk.
We lost the 2004 election because we ran the wrong candidate.
Dixiecrat counties in northern florida that used paper ballots were recounted and we lost. won Kerry didn't pay attention to rural or exurban areas. Kerry blew the election by his Iraq war vote. We have to admit that or else we will be picking Kerry in 08 again because some people think he won an election that he blew.
Kerry lost by 3 million votes to a chimp moron. Kerry lost rural counties in Ohio by a huge margin. Kerry won many states like wisconsin, new hampshire that were much closer than ohio and should have been won in a blow out.
And I am tired of hearing about exit polls, the exit polls had dean winning the new hampshire primary how come the kerry cool aid drinkers aren't giving us dean supporters the new hampshire primary win and then dean could have won the nomination.
Wisconsin was ten times closer than ohio, kerry lost ohio by more votes than Clinton won ohio in 92 or 96 and clinton won ohio easily.
Kerry was a boring candidate with no message because of his iraq war vote.
No one voted for Kerry because they like him they voted against bush you can't win an eleciton that way.
Kerry lost 255 of the 435 congressional districts to Bush, it is an insult as a dean supporter to hear from the same people that said no we can't have dean to then say he won a race that he got crushed in.
I live in Ohio and worked the polls in columbus and no many poll workers across the state anyone that thinks kerry won ohio when he lost by a considerable margin over 118,000 votes is very dangerous.
I fear that people will vote for Kerry in 08 because they think he is really the incumbent which is very dangerous because Kerry lost and instead of realizing Kerry was not the right candidate we will have pick the same pro iraq war resolution candidate again.
Once was enough never again let's stop this madness that Kerry won, he didn't win we lost when we picked him over Dean.
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| -Poll: Is Bush's Presidency legitimate? |
TomClash |
Jun-06-05 09:11 PM |
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I picked number 2. But for the butterfly ballot, Repug skulldugery |
rzemanfl |
Jun-06-05 09:17 PM |
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LOL! |
TomClash |
Jun-06-05 09:18 PM |
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John Dean saying he saw no evidence of it shook my perception a bit |
LittleClarkie |
Jun-06-05 09:20 PM |
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So John Dean is saying that he is unaware of anything Blackwell |
Imagevision |
Jun-09-05 05:28 PM |
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Jun-06-05 09:27 PM |
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I'm not sure I could rise to the occasion |
TomClash |
Jun-06-05 09:30 PM |
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Use somebody else's equipment |
Warpy |
Jun-06-05 09:56 PM |
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Frankly, I'm afraid I DO know where that thing has been! |
johnaries |
Jun-06-05 11:59 PM |
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You mean you "bang" other women, but respectfully? |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Jun-07-05 12:14 PM |
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Won on illegitimate incumbency in 2004. Ergo, completely illegitimate. n/t |
gulliver |
Jun-06-05 09:28 PM |
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This is so, so much a non-starter, it needs to die. It hurts us. |
eallen |
Jun-06-05 09:38 PM |
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wrong |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-06-05 09:44 PM |
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No, I didn't say that. |
eallen |
Jun-06-05 10:29 PM |
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you can consider Bush illegitimate |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-07-05 12:30 AM |
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You can consider Bush whatever you want... |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 07:52 AM |
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Of course Bush is president |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-07-05 08:22 AM |
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No one denies it?? Are you reading the same DU as me? |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 08:41 AM |
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It's incredible |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-07-05 09:10 AM |
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I didn't miss any of that. It just doesn't mean what you think. |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 01:38 PM |
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Jun-07-05 04:05 PM |
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ROTFLMAO. So if I don't swallow your notions whole... |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 06:06 PM |
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Jun-07-05 10:39 PM |
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You don't know squat about the Rove/Bush spin machine.... |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 11:21 PM |
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Blackwell was Bush and Cheney's campaign co-chair in Ohio. |
LuPeRcALiO |
Jun-07-05 11:58 PM |
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Yep. Blackwell's involvement. Not Bush's or Cheney's. |
eallen |
Jun-08-05 07:53 AM |
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"you still haven't shown that Blackwell committed a crime" -- Au Contraire |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-08-05 08:12 AM |
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Score one for Rove indeed. |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-08-05 06:51 AM |
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I don't tell anyone to "move on." What I say is... |
eallen |
Jun-08-05 07:42 AM |
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You, sir, have obviously not studied this subject |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-08-05 08:01 AM |
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You're right. I just read what the accusers are saying here & elsewhere... |
eallen |
Jun-08-05 08:34 AM |
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Why don't you do it? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-08-05 09:37 AM |
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and you are one of the people helping give honest citizens |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-08-05 06:03 PM |
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No. I have done the homework for MY claims.... |
eallen |
Jun-08-05 09:45 PM |
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Why are you so eager to defend Bush? |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-09-05 05:52 AM |
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I'm NOT defending Bush. I'm trying to make Democrats look better. |
eallen |
Jun-09-05 07:21 AM |
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if you knew ANYTHING |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-09-05 10:15 AM |
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You don't get it. |
eallen |
Jun-09-05 03:15 PM |
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You are defending a well-known election-thief |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-09-05 03:54 PM |
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thank you I was wondering |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-08-05 06:00 PM |
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You keep saying "Bush is illegitimate" and only thing that does is |
googly |
Jun-08-05 08:09 PM |
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Since when are we LEADING with complaints about past elections? |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-07-05 08:36 AM |
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Maybe not you personally. But there are many who lead that way. |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 08:42 AM |
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"Get over the damn game" |
LuPeRcALiO |
Jun-07-05 08:48 AM |
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When you can identify the criminal & prove his crime, put him away. |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 08:56 AM |
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That's the idea. |
LuPeRcALiO |
Jun-07-05 08:57 AM |
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Except neither you nor anyone else are anywhere close to doing that. |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 10:20 AM |
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"Was Nixon Robbed? The legend of the stolen 1960 Presidential election" |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-07-05 10:49 AM |
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"GOP's failure to prove fraud doesn't mean that the election was clean." |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 11:18 AM |
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Did any senators challenge the certification of JFKs |
LuPeRcALiO |
Jun-07-05 12:58 PM |
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Chicago needed mortuary votes in 1960 to win Illinois |
googly |
Jun-08-05 08:11 PM |
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If someone is driving a stolen car, does it make him the legitimate owner? |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jun-07-05 04:10 PM |
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How do you propose *WE* investigate election fraud? |
pgh_dem |
Jun-07-05 10:23 AM |
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Raising a stink is fine. |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 11:23 AM |
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That reasoning is circular. |
pgh_dem |
Jun-07-05 11:39 AM |
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No, it merely separates two issues. |
eallen |
Jun-07-05 11:51 AM |
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Yes, but what about the point about Kennedy? |
Cynot |
Jun-07-05 12:07 PM |
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I think we have plenty of other issues to hang Bush with. But, |
johnaries |
Jun-07-05 12:02 AM |
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What hurt us was not the fair election |
dean2016 |
Jun-07-05 12:15 AM |
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the fraud had nothing to do with the poll workers... |
johnaries |
Jun-07-05 06:25 PM |
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#1 for sure |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-06-05 09:38 PM |
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Mistake was made in the primary |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 10:02 PM |
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I wasn't for Kerry either |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-06-05 10:18 PM |
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I live in Ohio |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 10:28 PM |
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Come to Ohio and count the votes |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 10:38 PM |
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There were other DU'ers who recounted Butler, Claremont and |
pgh_dem |
Jun-07-05 09:47 AM |
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The Ohio Supreme Court ruled no fraud |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 10:52 PM |
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The Supreme Court ruled no fraud?? |
truth_is_extreme |
Jun-07-05 12:25 AM |
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Obviously stole the election in 2000 |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jun-06-05 09:48 PM |
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2000 recount study done |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 10:12 PM |
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I hope we have learned something since running William Jennings Bryan. |
eallen |
Jun-06-05 10:40 PM |
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Everything you said about 2004 is of no interest to me |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jun-06-05 11:22 PM |
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Recount study |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 11:26 PM |
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Jun-06-05 11:31 PM |
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Just because I like Dean over Kerry |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 11:52 PM |
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Whatever you say |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jun-07-05 12:02 AM |
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Your selective analysis is remarkable |
Awsi Dooger |
Jun-07-05 12:26 AM |
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Please provide a link to the study about 2000... |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-07-05 08:39 AM |
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I have to contradict you (Dean2016) here.... |
dragonkeep |
Jun-07-05 08:42 AM |
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USIG - U.S. Imposter Government |
SophieZ |
Jun-06-05 09:56 PM |
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Yes, I agree -- Ohio was obvious as hell & Blackwell's BS... |
Imagevision |
Jun-06-05 10:35 PM |
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I recounted the ballots in ohio |
dean2016 |
Jun-06-05 10:43 PM |
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I'm glad Mr. Blackwell gave you the run of his office. |
LuPeRcALiO |
Jun-07-05 09:01 AM |
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Pay me to come to Ohio and count ballots, including the electronic ones |
uppityperson |
Jun-07-05 11:26 PM |
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There should be no open primary then in 08 |
dean2016 |
Jun-07-05 12:20 AM |
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He didn't win 2000 |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-07-05 12:01 AM |
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2004 wasn't even close |
dean2016 |
Jun-07-05 12:08 AM |
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2004 *was* close. Kerry lost Ohio by only 118,599 votes; if he took Ohio.. |
KrazyKat |
Jun-07-05 06:37 PM |
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Legally, this isn't a matter of opinion. |
Lost Dutchman |
Jun-07-05 09:58 AM |
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You're right and wrong |
pgh_dem |
Jun-07-05 10:16 AM |
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Your second point is correct... |
Lost Dutchman |
Jun-07-05 10:23 AM |
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When our legal system is corrupt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-08-05 07:52 AM |
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2000 was stolen |
Lowell |
Jun-07-05 10:35 AM |
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No, but he's in. And that's all that matters. |
HypnoToad |
Jun-07-05 10:57 AM |
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No. n/t |
GOPBasher |
Jun-07-05 11:01 AM |
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2 people here would shag Coulter? Yeech |
Protagoras |
Jun-07-05 11:42 AM |
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I HOPE THEY GOT THEIR PENICILLIN!! eom |
ihelpu2see |
Jun-07-05 12:17 PM |
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Damn! George W. Bush and Ann Coulter mentioned in the same thread! |
KansDem |
Jun-07-05 12:18 PM |
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no!! |
dajoki |
Jun-07-05 12:32 PM |
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The way I see it: no |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-05 12:42 PM |
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Bush will never be seen as a legitimate president in my eyes... |
DemGirl7 |
Jun-08-05 07:44 PM |
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and you have every right to think so....but for gosh sake don't |
googly |
Jun-08-05 08:15 PM |
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Thanks for the warning. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-09-05 06:57 AM |
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it was all a miscalculation |
radfringe |
Jun-09-05 06:11 AM |
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First term no, second term yes |
jsw_81 |
Jun-09-05 10:28 AM |
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Not legitimate in any year |
Spectral |
Jun-09-05 03:19 PM |
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Bushs Presidency is about as legal as booze was during the prohibition era |
Old_Fart |
Jun-09-05 04:01 PM |
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#s 3, 5 and 7 |
hippiegranny |
Jun-09-05 04:04 PM |
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Not only NO |
AlabamaYankee |
Jun-09-05 04:34 PM |
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