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Sat Jan-24-04 10:46 PM
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| 70. Kerry did such a great job pursuing the cocaine trail in Panama.... |
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Kerry held public hearings, but he didn't follow the evidence all the way. Kerry was more interested in PR than in exposing the entire network, perhaps because it would lead to the Oval Office: As the Noriega case progresses toward trial, the media's treatment of key witnesses against the General may offer a case study in bias. Several of the witnesses have already testified on these matters in a very public forum--hearings before Senator John Kerry's Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Narcotics. At that time, February 1988, they fingered Nicaraguan contras as cocaine cohorts of Noriega operating under the umbrella of the CIA and Ollie North. The hearings were ignored or distorted by national media outlets, with Reagan/Bush officials and CIA dismissing the witnesses as drug trafficking felons. ( Extra!, Mar/Apr 88; Warren Hinckle, S.F. Examiner, 1/11/90). In a predictable turnaround, as soon as Noriega was apprehended, TV news brought forth experts to explain that "when one prosecutes someone like Noriega for drug dealing, witnesses will of necessity be drug dealers." The Media Goes to War:
HOW TELEVISION SOLD THE PANAMA INVASION
by Mark Cook and Jeff Cohenhttp://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/panamainv.ht... |
| -An election factor that hasn't been discussed yet: the Catholic Church! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 02:44 PM |
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Yeah, But Funny That the Debate Question On This Issue |
Justice |
Jan-24-04 02:47 PM |
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I think Kerry will |
dsc |
Jan-24-04 02:48 PM |
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I heard several Catholics on tv saying this warning |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 02:49 PM |
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The Catholic Church has no moral sway anymore |
Raven |
Jan-24-04 02:59 PM |
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Catholic voting behavior is now virtually... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jan-24-04 03:03 PM |
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I was told my some catholics that it is payback time |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:31 PM |
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I'm a Catholic and the Church "holds moral sway" with me and many |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-24-04 06:51 PM |
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It holds sway for me too... |
Tinoire |
Jan-25-04 01:44 AM |
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Speaking as a Catholic... |
Alex146 |
Jan-24-04 03:00 PM |
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This is true, but it also means that Kerry won't be able to appeal to them |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:06 PM |
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One of my longtime dear friends |
pacifictiger |
Jan-24-04 03:11 PM |
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Last time I checked |
Valjean |
Jan-24-04 07:02 PM |
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What about Clark and Kucinich |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:09 PM |
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I like and support Dennis because he is the most liberal of the candidates |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:24 PM |
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The problem with that is |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:35 PM |
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Making a choice on viability is a political choice |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:42 PM |
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I disagree |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:53 PM |
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The war is not in the past, it is still ongoing! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:59 PM |
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I KNOW its still going on |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:07 PM |
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Kucinich did NOT back Edwards |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-25-04 12:12 PM |
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If you can't trust Dk, how can you trust a general? |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:39 PM |
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I worked for generals before |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:54 PM |
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I agree with your comment on Generals but |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:00 PM |
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Wes Clark believes in Wes Clark |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:08 PM |
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Kerry has been consistent, clark is all over the place |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:25 PM |
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If Kerry is elected, Iraq will become a Democratic war |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:27 PM |
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Nonsense - they would argue it the same way as Nam |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:38 PM |
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We will see when the DC police has to arrest peace demonstrators |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 05:39 PM |
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You know, I love posting this |
mikehiggins |
Jan-24-04 11:46 PM |
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Clark can't make up his mind what he wants to do |
Namvet04 |
Jan-25-04 12:52 AM |
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There IS logic in it |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:54 PM |
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He sold out and was always special to me until then |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:08 PM |
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NO, Dean would have been the worst choice (short of Lieberman) |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:16 PM |
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While I still support Kucinich, as I do all other anti-IWR candidates |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:25 PM |
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Dennis will be my candidate til the day he drops out |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:36 PM |
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I do not understand you, dean is against the war |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:26 PM |
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While Dean supported Biden Lugar and acting against Iraq |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:34 PM |
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Dean is not the one that changes postions it is clark |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:49 PM |
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Dean |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:57 PM |
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Did he ever speak highly of bush and the war like Clark? |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 05:07 PM |
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Dean was never in the military so he never had allegiance to |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-24-04 07:07 PM |
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Serve several tours in nam and was not fired like Clark or have |
Namvet04 |
Jan-25-04 12:54 AM |
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lol |
lazarus |
Jan-25-04 01:05 AM |
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If he had gone to Dean, |
diamondsoul |
Jan-24-04 04:28 PM |
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He is like us all, will make the best deal for us, but you hit it |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:32 PM |
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Bishop and Cardinal will take them on |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:34 PM |
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I don't |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:37 PM |
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It will be interesting to watch their power or lack of it |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:43 PM |
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They won't kick any Catholics out |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:55 PM |
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Not what they said and I challenge them like you have |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:01 PM |
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Never happen on our core issues |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:49 PM |
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but it can though |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:58 PM |
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This is not a religious board so we should be careful, however |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:05 PM |
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The word of God against Gays is overblown, and subject to interpertation |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:13 PM |
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If your with people they will show you in both |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:17 PM |
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It's not as hardline as many think it is |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:20 PM |
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They would agree with you |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:29 PM |
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That's not what it says |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:40 PM |
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Sound like to most it is no big deal |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:53 PM |
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What of contradictions within the Bible though |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:59 PM |
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I know they have but never raise in on here |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 05:13 PM |
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Catholics don't listen to the pope but they like Catholic candidates |
MIMStigator |
Jan-24-04 03:28 PM |
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I agree, many Catholics think the pope is far, far too conservative |
Woodstock |
Jan-25-04 12:31 AM |
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the pope will be dead by the election |
Bombtrack |
Jan-24-04 03:50 PM |
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Hate to tell you |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:01 PM |
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Well this pope helped us end the cold war, so I call that "being involved" |
Bombtrack |
Jan-24-04 04:32 PM |
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Sounds like the primary season is on for the pope's job |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:34 PM |
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He was involved in defeating communism because he is Polish |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:44 PM |
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Do the cardinals go and cook pancakes and things like that to |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:58 PM |
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LOL |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 05:02 PM |
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Unless Cardinal Cipriani of Lima, Peru becomes the next Pope |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:02 PM |
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People have been thinking John Paul II was about to die ever since |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-24-04 04:39 PM |
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The Catholic Church |
secondtermdenier |
Jan-24-04 03:54 PM |
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Problems |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:59 PM |
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I disagree. |
leyton |
Jan-24-04 03:57 PM |
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More on Kerry. |
David Zephyr |
Jan-24-04 05:00 PM |
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Kerry did such a great job pursuing the cocaine trail in Panama.... |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 10:46 PM |
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Yikes |
Tinoire |
Jan-24-04 11:20 PM |
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Don't forget that Clinton gave us Plan Colombia |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 11:34 PM |
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I won't & don't. Plan Columbia horrified me. Clinton is not my hero |
Tinoire |
Jan-25-04 01:33 AM |
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Excellent post, Tinoire |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 01:48 AM |
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Amen to that |
youngred |
Jan-25-04 04:50 PM |
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What about the Pope's view on the war? |
dansolo |
Jan-25-04 12:15 AM |
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The Pope is Anti-war |
youngred |
Jan-25-04 04:50 PM |
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And the Pope warned of the spiritual repercussions if US went to war |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 04:56 PM |
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the Catholic Church in MA is not like this |
cap |
Jan-25-04 12:27 AM |
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UPDATE: Pope calls on media to reject contraception, homosexuality |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 12:48 AM |
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all the dems are pro-choice |
Cocoa |
Jan-25-04 12:57 AM |
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No, they are not all pro-choice. Edwards is certainly not! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 01:00 AM |
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the Pope wouldn't like Edwards's abortion position |
Cocoa |
Jan-25-04 01:16 AM |
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A number of the candidates have a Catholic background. |
Constitution |
Jan-25-04 01:09 AM |
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do we have to go through this every time a Catholic is up for election? |
nemo137 |
Jan-25-04 02:01 AM |
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There has been a significant erosion in the separation of church and state |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 03:44 AM |
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