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Sat Jan-24-04 03:35 PM
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OK, Dennis was not going to be verry viable. He took the guy who would get him some delegates and who matched on MORE of the Core issues than anyone else.
What would you have liked him to do? Throw to Dean who is NOT the anti-war candidate he claims and is moderate at best? Throw to Kerry, that's as bad as Edwards on the war, doesn't match up as closely on cardinal issues, Kery didn't want him. Throw to Gep? Gep's worse than Kerry. Throw to Sharpton? Neither would be viable. Edwards has/had been talking up the parts of his beliefs that are closer to Dennis' than anyone else. Clark isn't in the race (though they are probably closest of all).
SO its either be blown out of Iowa completely or throw in with someone (not endorse or support, or let go on in other primaries) who could get him some votes to continue. This way he can take those people to the primaries, wield some influence on the platform and if its close be a dealmaker/concession getter come convention time.
my point in asking though, is both of them are Catholic.
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| -An election factor that hasn't been discussed yet: the Catholic Church! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 02:44 PM |
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Yeah, But Funny That the Debate Question On This Issue |
Justice |
Jan-24-04 02:47 PM |
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I think Kerry will |
dsc |
Jan-24-04 02:48 PM |
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I heard several Catholics on tv saying this warning |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 02:49 PM |
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The Catholic Church has no moral sway anymore |
Raven |
Jan-24-04 02:59 PM |
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Catholic voting behavior is now virtually... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jan-24-04 03:03 PM |
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I was told my some catholics that it is payback time |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:31 PM |
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I'm a Catholic and the Church "holds moral sway" with me and many |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-24-04 06:51 PM |
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It holds sway for me too... |
Tinoire |
Jan-25-04 01:44 AM |
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Speaking as a Catholic... |
Alex146 |
Jan-24-04 03:00 PM |
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This is true, but it also means that Kerry won't be able to appeal to them |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:06 PM |
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One of my longtime dear friends |
pacifictiger |
Jan-24-04 03:11 PM |
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Last time I checked |
Valjean |
Jan-24-04 07:02 PM |
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What about Clark and Kucinich |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:09 PM |
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I like and support Dennis because he is the most liberal of the candidates |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:24 PM |
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The problem with that is |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:35 PM |
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Making a choice on viability is a political choice |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:42 PM |
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I disagree |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:53 PM |
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The war is not in the past, it is still ongoing! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:59 PM |
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I KNOW its still going on |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:07 PM |
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Kucinich did NOT back Edwards |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-25-04 12:12 PM |
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If you can't trust Dk, how can you trust a general? |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:39 PM |
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I worked for generals before |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 03:54 PM |
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I agree with your comment on Generals but |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:00 PM |
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Wes Clark believes in Wes Clark |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:08 PM |
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Kerry has been consistent, clark is all over the place |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:25 PM |
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If Kerry is elected, Iraq will become a Democratic war |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:27 PM |
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Nonsense - they would argue it the same way as Nam |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:38 PM |
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We will see when the DC police has to arrest peace demonstrators |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 05:39 PM |
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You know, I love posting this |
mikehiggins |
Jan-24-04 11:46 PM |
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Clark can't make up his mind what he wants to do |
Namvet04 |
Jan-25-04 12:52 AM |
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There IS logic in it |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:54 PM |
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He sold out and was always special to me until then |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:08 PM |
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NO, Dean would have been the worst choice (short of Lieberman) |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:16 PM |
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While I still support Kucinich, as I do all other anti-IWR candidates |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:25 PM |
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Dennis will be my candidate til the day he drops out |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:36 PM |
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I do not understand you, dean is against the war |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:26 PM |
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While Dean supported Biden Lugar and acting against Iraq |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:34 PM |
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Dean is not the one that changes postions it is clark |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:49 PM |
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Dean |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:57 PM |
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Did he ever speak highly of bush and the war like Clark? |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 05:07 PM |
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Dean was never in the military so he never had allegiance to |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-24-04 07:07 PM |
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Serve several tours in nam and was not fired like Clark or have |
Namvet04 |
Jan-25-04 12:54 AM |
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lol |
lazarus |
Jan-25-04 01:05 AM |
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If he had gone to Dean, |
diamondsoul |
Jan-24-04 04:28 PM |
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He is like us all, will make the best deal for us, but you hit it |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:32 PM |
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Bishop and Cardinal will take them on |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:34 PM |
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I don't |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:37 PM |
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It will be interesting to watch their power or lack of it |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:43 PM |
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They won't kick any Catholics out |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:55 PM |
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Not what they said and I challenge them like you have |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:01 PM |
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Never happen on our core issues |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 03:49 PM |
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but it can though |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:58 PM |
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This is not a religious board so we should be careful, however |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:05 PM |
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The word of God against Gays is overblown, and subject to interpertation |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:13 PM |
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If your with people they will show you in both |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:17 PM |
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It's not as hardline as many think it is |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:20 PM |
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They would agree with you |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:29 PM |
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That's not what it says |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:40 PM |
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Sound like to most it is no big deal |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:53 PM |
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What of contradictions within the Bible though |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:59 PM |
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I know they have but never raise in on here |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 05:13 PM |
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Catholics don't listen to the pope but they like Catholic candidates |
MIMStigator |
Jan-24-04 03:28 PM |
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I agree, many Catholics think the pope is far, far too conservative |
Woodstock |
Jan-25-04 12:31 AM |
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the pope will be dead by the election |
Bombtrack |
Jan-24-04 03:50 PM |
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Hate to tell you |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:01 PM |
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Well this pope helped us end the cold war, so I call that "being involved" |
Bombtrack |
Jan-24-04 04:32 PM |
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Sounds like the primary season is on for the pope's job |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:34 PM |
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He was involved in defeating communism because he is Polish |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 04:44 PM |
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Do the cardinals go and cook pancakes and things like that to |
Namvet04 |
Jan-24-04 04:58 PM |
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LOL |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 05:02 PM |
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Unless Cardinal Cipriani of Lima, Peru becomes the next Pope |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 04:02 PM |
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People have been thinking John Paul II was about to die ever since |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-24-04 04:39 PM |
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The Catholic Church |
secondtermdenier |
Jan-24-04 03:54 PM |
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Problems |
youngred |
Jan-24-04 03:59 PM |
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I disagree. |
leyton |
Jan-24-04 03:57 PM |
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More on Kerry. |
David Zephyr |
Jan-24-04 05:00 PM |
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Kerry did such a great job pursuing the cocaine trail in Panama.... |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 10:46 PM |
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Yikes |
Tinoire |
Jan-24-04 11:20 PM |
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Don't forget that Clinton gave us Plan Colombia |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-24-04 11:34 PM |
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I won't & don't. Plan Columbia horrified me. Clinton is not my hero |
Tinoire |
Jan-25-04 01:33 AM |
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Excellent post, Tinoire |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 01:48 AM |
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Amen to that |
youngred |
Jan-25-04 04:50 PM |
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What about the Pope's view on the war? |
dansolo |
Jan-25-04 12:15 AM |
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The Pope is Anti-war |
youngred |
Jan-25-04 04:50 PM |
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And the Pope warned of the spiritual repercussions if US went to war |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 04:56 PM |
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the Catholic Church in MA is not like this |
cap |
Jan-25-04 12:27 AM |
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UPDATE: Pope calls on media to reject contraception, homosexuality |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 12:48 AM |
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all the dems are pro-choice |
Cocoa |
Jan-25-04 12:57 AM |
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No, they are not all pro-choice. Edwards is certainly not! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 01:00 AM |
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the Pope wouldn't like Edwards's abortion position |
Cocoa |
Jan-25-04 01:16 AM |
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A number of the candidates have a Catholic background. |
Constitution |
Jan-25-04 01:09 AM |
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do we have to go through this every time a Catholic is up for election? |
nemo137 |
Jan-25-04 02:01 AM |
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There has been a significant erosion in the separation of church and state |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-04 03:44 AM |
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