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Thu Jun-02-05 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 181. If I could choose the nominee in 08 |
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I'd like it to be Bredesen/Kuicinich (sp?) or Bredesen/Clark. Of course I haven't heard anything of Bredesen running for the presidency. Someone was interviewed earlier this year (Jan) in a Jacksonville paper on Bredesen and asked about him running, since his name has been thrown around a lot, and the person said he wasn't interested.  I wish he would though. I think he could do well with moderate's and independents. He's clear, strong on the stance, not a "flipflopper" and he was governor and mayor twice of a "red" state. I think he would be great competition for someone like McCain or Frist (he could whoop Frist's ass I'm sure).
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| -Imagine Edwards/Bredesen '08 |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 12:52 PM |
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Frankly |
ruggerson |
May-30-05 12:57 PM |
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We have given other regions a shot |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 01:00 PM |
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Don't worry. It's still people from Boston, Washington and NY who |
AP |
May-30-05 02:18 PM |
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Very true. |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 04:39 PM |
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And it looks like John Edwards's policy goals would shift more political |
AP |
May-30-05 07:38 PM |
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I see your point... |
zulchzulu |
May-30-05 11:25 PM |
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If appearance of corruptibility/corruption is your litmus test, |
AP |
May-31-05 08:42 AM |
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To me |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:07 PM |
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It doesn't really matter who it is or where they are from.... |
kentuck |
May-30-05 12:59 PM |
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Then it does matter... |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 01:01 PM |
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You can't have Bredesen yet! TN still needs him! |
johnaries |
May-30-05 01:44 PM |
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I agree. He belongs here. |
politicasista |
May-30-05 03:57 PM |
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I have to agree with you here. |
Clark2008 |
May-30-05 04:12 PM |
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I love Phil myself |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:10 PM |
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thanks.... |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 09:55 PM |
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Great! |
FrenchieCat |
May-30-05 02:17 PM |
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Other than Clark, who do you think meets your NS/FP litmus test? |
AP |
May-30-05 02:28 PM |
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None surpass Clark... but there are some out there with more experience |
FrenchieCat |
May-30-05 02:33 PM |
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Do any of the others have names? |
AP |
May-30-05 04:21 PM |
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I can think of several with little or no foreign policy experience |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 04:37 PM |
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Not a general, but someone with foreign policy credos |
tritsofme |
May-31-05 12:43 AM |
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I'll take simply creed and conviction. |
AP |
May-31-05 08:39 AM |
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National security was not on the radar in 1992.... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 06:24 PM |
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In fairness, Clinton was elected in a different political climate (pre-911 |
Sparkly |
May-31-05 05:58 PM |
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Not necessarily true |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:14 PM |
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Last time |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 04:35 PM |
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Ain't nobody talking about Clark's war heroism..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-30-05 10:19 PM |
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To Karl Rove, there is no difference. |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 10:39 PM |
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Well, you should just keep ignoring the elephant that's in the room.... |
FrenchieCat |
May-30-05 11:19 PM |
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May-30-05 11:26 PM |
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May-31-05 12:16 AM |
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Could you possibly be more condescending? |
Radical Activist |
May-31-05 12:36 AM |
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Pot still calling the kettle black..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 01:02 AM |
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"Clark has more Domestic experience..... |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 07:21 AM |
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I'm really glad |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 07:29 AM |
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Did you forget a little thing |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:18 PM |
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I realize what the CW is on the election results.......... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 02:35 PM |
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Exactly |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:30 AM |
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Nominating a general will just confirm that dems suck on natn'l sec., |
KnowerOfLogic |
Jun-01-05 12:45 AM |
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The only thing I wonder |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:16 PM |
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You've got to be kidding me. |
Skwmom |
Jun-07-05 10:02 AM |
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Comparing Kerry to Clark is like comparing apples to oranges. |
Skwmom |
May-31-05 07:19 PM |
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How do you know |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:13 PM |
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Kerry and Edwards both were going to be "tough" on National Security... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 06:22 PM |
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Bredesen is a governor |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:34 AM |
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Freedom, being a Tennessean, I can say with all honesty and |
Clark2008 |
May-31-05 10:21 PM |
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And what is it to say |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:36 AM |
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We tried that... in 2004 |
leyton |
May-31-05 06:12 PM |
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"2004 showed us that a candidate must connect to the people" |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 10:01 PM |
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Kerry's flip-flopping was 90% of the problem. How can you connect |
KnowerOfLogic |
Jun-01-05 12:48 AM |
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The problem was |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:38 AM |
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You are wrong |
Inspired |
May-31-05 08:25 PM |
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ONE task force and he's a FP expert? |
Clark2008 |
May-31-05 10:24 PM |
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Big surprise |
Inspired |
Jun-02-05 09:11 PM |
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It also balances out nicely because |
Radical Activist |
May-30-05 04:42 PM |
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And in "red" areas too |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:40 AM |
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What is it about folks that just toss names out |
Texas_Kat |
May-30-05 11:52 PM |
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Give you some facts??? |
Mr_King |
May-31-05 12:19 AM |
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Well hon, that's the way the game is played here.. |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 12:31 AM |
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Yeah |
Mr_King |
May-31-05 12:38 AM |
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What's wrong with people who come out of the middle and working class |
AP |
May-31-05 09:02 AM |
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Nothing is wrong with people who come out of the middle and working class |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 11:33 AM |
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The idea that John Edwards can't handle complicated situations is absurd. |
AP |
May-31-05 04:33 PM |
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Debbie Stabenow, Ruth Ann Minner or Paul Welstone (sic) |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 05:42 PM |
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Don't miss the rest of my spelling errors! There are lots of them! As for |
AP |
May-31-05 05:48 PM |
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Don't miss the rest of my spelling errors! There are lots of them! As for |
AP |
May-31-05 05:48 PM |
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When they declare their candidacy, I'll be here to ask similar questions. |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 06:06 PM |
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Please do. When you become the person who defines "qualifications" |
AP |
May-31-05 06:12 PM |
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I wasn't giving a test, but asking about JRE's qualifications in economics |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 06:36 PM |
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Spelling. Timeliness. Too long. Table turner. Now dictionary definitions? |
AP |
May-31-05 07:01 PM |
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I didn't intend to upset you. |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:32 PM |
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May-31-05 07:45 PM |
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You must remember the absurdity of politics. |
Skwmom |
May-31-05 07:05 PM |
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He didn't write the "Two Americas' speech |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 06:53 PM |
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Whoa. That's a pretty decpeptive selective edit there. Edwards did write |
AP |
May-31-05 07:30 PM |
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Okay, |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:45 PM |
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May-31-05 07:47 PM |
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"I'm done with you." |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:51 PM |
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May-31-05 07:52 PM |
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I wasn't arguing I was asking a question |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:58 PM |
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After post 93, why should anyone believe that? |
AP |
May-31-05 09:49 PM |
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May-31-05 09:49 PM |
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What you posted upthread in #99 says... |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 10:18 PM |
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May-31-05 11:40 PM |
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Sorry if the syntax wasn't clear |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 11:53 PM |
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No credibility. |
AP |
May-31-05 11:56 PM |
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"So there!.... right?" |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:08 AM |
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In a hole...and still shoveling. |
AP |
Jun-01-05 12:11 AM |
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Hello? Very curious about your response? |
AP |
May-31-05 07:30 PM |
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Sorry, stopped to watch Keith Olbermann |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:49 PM |
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May-31-05 07:50 PM |
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Okay, now you've become unpleasant |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:55 PM |
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May-31-05 09:50 PM |
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Ummm... I can attest that she DID watch KO because she |
Clark2008 |
May-31-05 10:39 PM |
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Thanks, 2008! |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 11:29 PM |
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Watching Olberman is no excuse for the selective editing. |
AP |
May-31-05 11:42 PM |
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I left out Robert Gordon (my apologies to him) as the coauthor |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:03 AM |
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Jun-01-05 12:07 AM |
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Okay here it is... along with the link... |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:12 AM |
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Now find my a version from after Jan 3, and we can compare. |
AP |
Jun-01-05 12:25 AM |
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Which I'll post here: |
AP |
Jun-01-05 12:07 AM |
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I believe post 145 answers your argument |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:20 AM |
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To what are you comparing that 12/29 version? Your memory? |
AP |
Jun-01-05 12:34 AM |
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I thought you might be able to tell us what he added |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:48 AM |
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Jun-01-05 12:52 AM |
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"Your quote was incredibly inaccurate" |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 01:01 AM |
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Jun-02-05 11:54 PM |
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This relates to post #147 |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:39 AM |
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I'm still waiting for any Two Americas speech from after Jan 3 |
AP |
Jun-01-05 12:49 AM |
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And here, I thought you knew your candidate so well.... |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 12:55 AM |
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I'm not asking anyone to trust my memory, like you are. |
AP |
Jun-01-05 01:01 AM |
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It's your claim that they're different |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 01:21 AM |
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I think the Prospect Article shifts the burden of proof on to you. |
AP |
Jun-01-05 05:52 AM |
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It wasn't the so-called "selective editing" she was apologizing for |
Clark2008 |
Jun-01-05 05:52 AM |
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Amen. |
leyton |
May-31-05 06:21 PM |
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It can also be seen in the way he conducted himself as a... |
AP |
May-31-05 06:23 PM |
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"What's wrong with people who come out of the middle and working class?" |
Clarkie1 |
May-31-05 07:42 PM |
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Excuse me? |
Radical Activist |
May-31-05 12:38 AM |
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6 US Congressional, 1 for US Senate, 2 for Texas House, 2 US Presidential |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 12:42 AM |
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Very nice |
Radical Activist |
May-31-05 12:46 AM |
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"Union member".... me too.. used to be a shop foreman. |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 12:52 AM |
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Thank You |
Mr_King |
May-31-05 01:00 AM |
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But the real question is.... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 01:05 AM |
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I'm asking also.... |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 07:07 AM |
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I have my own question: |
AP |
May-31-05 10:55 AM |
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I can only speak for myself... |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 11:03 AM |
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I didn't say that I would never vote for Edwards |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 12:11 PM |
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Perhaps, Kat, there is no answer. |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 01:16 PM |
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I thought I'd give it some time for an answer,.... |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 01:57 PM |
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One more qualification: showed how a presidential campaign should be run |
AP |
May-31-05 05:19 PM |
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And I have a very personal, painful reason for my decision. |
Clark2008 |
May-31-05 10:44 PM |
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Displaying your convictions through words and deeds are qualifications |
AP |
May-31-05 04:25 PM |
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Thanks for the treatise |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 05:28 PM |
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First I can't respond fast enough for you, and now I can't write a short.. |
AP |
May-31-05 06:03 PM |
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I don't get this.... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 06:39 PM |
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The argument is about the power of a good speech. |
AP |
May-31-05 07:37 PM |
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I guess I wasn't clear |
Texas_Kat |
May-31-05 07:02 PM |
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According to your Prospect link, they can help you win primaries. |
AP |
May-31-05 07:38 PM |
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It was me! |
CarolNYC |
May-31-05 10:12 PM |
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Yep |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:22 PM |
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I have my own question: |
AP |
May-31-05 10:56 AM |
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Cause lately you've been staying out of Clark threads..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 06:40 PM |
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I haven't been attacked personally in any recently. |
AP |
May-31-05 07:33 PM |
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Like what is a puffery post, anyway? Have seen you in quite a few |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 08:32 PM |
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Save me some time and tell me which of my posts you think was |
AP |
May-31-05 09:52 PM |
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Well just looking at one, you've got |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-01-05 12:31 AM |
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Hard to defend myself on that one when the link doesn't go anywhere. |
AP |
Jun-01-05 12:55 AM |
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see post 118 for unbroken link |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-01-05 01:29 AM |
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Jun-01-05 12:59 AM |
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Jun-01-05 01:31 AM |
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Are you going to make an argument about how I'm no different |
AP |
Jun-01-05 05:49 AM |
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Who are you asking? |
Radical Activist |
May-31-05 11:36 PM |
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I was asking anyone who could answer.... |
CarolNYC |
Jun-01-05 06:21 AM |
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Edwards has vision, and that is more important than expertise. |
leyton |
May-31-05 06:18 PM |
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Well, I think in the end...it appears to be a matter of opinion..... |
FrenchieCat |
May-31-05 06:47 PM |
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Is it a vision or a political ploy? |
Skwmom |
May-31-05 07:00 PM |
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Republicans are smarter about this. |
Radical Activist |
May-31-05 11:41 PM |
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Drop Edwards, and maybe I'll look at Bredesen |
tritsofme |
May-31-05 01:10 AM |
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Agreed. Especially since Edwards fails my litmus test. |
lojasmo |
May-31-05 08:07 AM |
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And you will vote for Bredesen?? |
Mass |
May-31-05 08:34 AM |
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Dunno about Bredesen....I'll have to research. |
lojasmo |
May-31-05 11:11 AM |
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Here are some articles on Bredesen for you |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:39 PM |
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I would support |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:25 PM |
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Hey FreedomAngel, could you live with Clark/Bredesen? |
CarolNYC |
Jun-05-05 07:35 AM |
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If I could choose the nominee in 08 |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:48 AM |
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McCain 08.... we're gonna get fucked regardless. |
illbill |
May-31-05 08:06 AM |
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Edwards does well against Jeb, McCain, and Giuliani, unlike Kerry & HRC |
AP |
May-31-05 09:10 AM |
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that's interesting...and about McCain... |
Darkamber |
Jun-02-05 09:58 PM |
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I think Bredesen would have a good chance |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:52 AM |
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Isn't Frist retiring - what about Bredesen running for that senate seat? |
LynneSin |
May-31-05 08:11 AM |
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Yes his seat is up and he's not returning (on Frist) |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:41 PM |
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Rep Ford is running for it |
ArtVandaley |
May-31-05 05:41 PM |
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For Me It's Edwards... |
ChiciB1 |
May-31-05 11:51 AM |
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I personally really like Bredesen |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 02:03 PM |
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Imagine getting our asses whipped again |
Gyre |
May-31-05 02:29 PM |
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Screw the south, look West |
ArtVandaley |
May-31-05 05:35 PM |
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Utah and Idaho are the two most Republican states |
Radical Activist |
Jun-02-05 09:51 PM |
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"Bredesen less conservative than Warner or Bayh" WTF??? |
nickshepDEM |
May-31-05 07:48 PM |
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You have to understand the situation of TennCare |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-31-05 08:00 PM |
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Thanks Freedom. |
Clark2008 |
May-31-05 10:55 PM |
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9.5!?!? |
CarolNYC |
Jun-01-05 06:25 AM |
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We don't have an income tax, though. n/t |
Clark2008 |
Jun-02-05 12:09 AM |
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You're right |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:55 AM |
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Did you cut and paste that from his website? |
Radical Activist |
Jun-02-05 09:52 PM |
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I very open to Warner as a candidate |
ArtVandaley |
Jun-02-05 09:59 PM |
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I guess we can't talk about anyone but Clark |
Radical Activist |
May-31-05 11:43 PM |
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I am "uninvited" from commenting in "your" thread? |
FrenchieCat |
Jun-01-05 12:59 AM |
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I won't vote for any war supporters. nt |
KnowerOfLogic |
Jun-01-05 12:41 AM |
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Radical, I'd like to apologize |
Texas_Kat |
Jun-01-05 01:32 AM |
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Jun-01-05 05:47 AM |
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I think so too |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:59 AM |
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When I look at a candidate, I'm looking at ability, not location |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-01-05 01:54 AM |
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JFK needed LBJ |
Radical Activist |
Jun-02-05 09:45 PM |
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If you're wanting to know more about |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-02-05 01:27 AM |
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I love Edwards as a candidate |
TheFarseer |
Jun-03-05 12:18 AM |
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