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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 08:55 PM
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111. When I heard Clinton say on Larry King...
that Bush won the 2004 election "fair and square" I had it with Clinton. I used to support him but no more.
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  -Left-wing Clinton Haters are WRONG. Pepperbelly  May-01-05 08:27 AM   #0 
  - Good for you, Pepperbelly  WesDem   May-01-05 08:29 AM   #1 
  - Clinton's policies were BRILLIANT, However, his continued position of  radwriter0555   May-01-05 08:30 AM   #2 
  - Try this for a parrelel:  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   May-01-05 08:33 AM   #4 
  - I think, sort of as said below he wants to influence chimp...  Hippo_Tron   May-01-05 12:50 PM   #62 
  - Is he really supporting them?  gordianot   May-01-05 10:33 PM   #122 
  - The problems with health care won't be addressed...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   May-01-05 08:31 AM   #3 
  - i agree, one doesn't have to agree with everything  JI7   May-01-05 08:34 AM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-05 08:43 AM   #11 
  - your post is exactly what I mean ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 08:47 AM   #13 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-05 09:16 AM   #18 
     - OK  rogerjab   May-01-05 09:25 AM   #24 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-05 09:28 AM   #25 
        - I continue  rogerjab   May-01-05 09:32 AM   #29 
     - Furthermore  rogerjab   May-01-05 09:30 AM   #27 
        - Geez ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 09:31 AM   #28 
           - No the country would have  rogerjab   May-01-05 09:51 AM   #37 
           - thanx for your advice ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 09:57 AM   #39 
           - OK  rogerjab   May-01-05 09:59 AM   #41 
              - I suppose that you are accomplished at ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:02 AM   #42 
           - hmm, in 1992 we had  Deaniac20   May-01-05 10:32 AM   #53 
           - Welcome to DU!  mzmolly   May-02-05 10:05 AM   #149 
           - Right On. Part of being liberal is having an "idealist" streak, which is  digno dave   May-02-05 10:47 AM   #150 
           - I don't want to be more loyal to the party than the parties candidates.  followthemoney   May-01-05 11:09 PM   #126 
           - Geez II  enough already   May-01-05 10:13 AM   #47 
              - If I hear one more person crying because he played ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:21 AM   #49 
              - Who said anything about golf?  enough already   May-01-05 10:42 AM   #55 
                 - have you not seen those threads?  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:43 AM   #56 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-05 04:32 AM   #131 
  - Ditto!  blogbear   May-01-05 08:51 AM   #15 
  - Well said  GOPFighter   May-01-05 08:38 AM   #6 
  - Revisionist history  enough already   May-01-05 08:39 AM   #7 
  - no, they were not ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 08:45 AM   #12 
  - Thank you  realpolitik   May-01-05 09:05 AM   #17 
  - read this  Deaniac20   May-01-05 10:24 AM   #50 
  - "But they have  KCabotDullesMarxIII   May-01-05 08:39 AM   #8 
  - His welfare "reforms" were cruel.....  Webster Green   May-01-05 08:39 AM   #9 
  - He pissed me off egregiously about the drug war because ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 08:41 AM   #10 
     - No, the Clinton drug policy  realpolitik   May-01-05 09:18 AM   #20 
  - I agree 100% plus! Bill Clinton is hated for lots of reasons by the right  dandrhesse   May-01-05 08:48 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-01-05 08:54 AM   #16 
  - I don't want "perfect".  Johnny Noshoes   May-01-05 09:38 AM   #32 
  - What is this rant about 'hate and ideology'?  Q   May-01-05 09:16 AM   #19 
  - I disagree completely and here is the proof ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 09:22 AM   #22 
  - RWingers hate Clinton...this isn't exactly a news flash...  Q   May-01-05 09:36 AM   #30 
     - you very politely ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 09:37 AM   #31 
        - I understood your point...  Q   May-02-05 05:41 AM   #133 
  - You strike the nail pretty squarely.  EST   May-02-05 05:45 AM   #134 
  - Thanks Q  deutsey   May-02-05 07:59 AM   #139 
  - Criticism is not hating, and BC is not perfect  kenzee13   May-01-05 09:21 AM   #21 
  - proof is in the pudding ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 09:24 AM   #23 
  - So you just want  AG78   May-01-05 09:50 AM   #35 
  - That is the reality ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 09:59 AM   #40 
     - You're right  AG78   May-01-05 10:19 AM   #48 
        - Not criticizing ... arguing and ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:25 AM   #51 
  - "devisive primaries and criticisms lead to losing elections"  Johnny Noshoes   May-01-05 09:51 AM   #36 
  - Nobody is calling for Duers not to criticize...  Dawgs   May-01-05 09:55 AM   #38 
     - Thank you soooooooo much for that ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:03 AM   #43 
     - You're not alone  beaconess   May-01-05 07:17 PM   #92 
     - Some of us are really sick of hearing "I will never forgive",  Johnny Noshoes   May-01-05 12:40 PM   #61 
  - Funny exchange on Chris Matthews.  dogman   May-01-05 09:28 AM   #26 
  - no choice.....  pretzel4gore   May-01-05 09:43 AM   #33 
  - People critical of BC (or HC) are not necessarily "haters".  mandyky   May-01-05 09:45 AM   #34 
  - even you could have won against g.b.1 and bob dole.  xchrom   May-01-05 10:05 AM   #44 
  - I think your "facts" are ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:10 AM   #45 
     - doma has caused me enough grief --  xchrom   May-01-05 10:31 AM   #52 
        - suit yourself ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 10:37 AM   #54 
           - You started this thread....  enough already   May-01-05 10:51 AM   #58 
              - Horseshit.  TheWraith   May-02-05 05:20 PM   #170 
  - As much as I like Clinton NAFTA was a HUGE MISTAKE.  yourout   May-01-05 10:10 AM   #46 
  - not just NAFTA  idlisambar   May-01-05 01:37 PM   #71 
  - NAFTA  enid602   May-01-05 06:21 PM   #86 
  - NAFTA was a mistake  murdoch   May-02-05 11:04 AM   #152 
  - Honorary Republican Party Memberships  Mark E. Smith   May-01-05 10:47 AM   #57 
  - Clinton - Monica = Great President  gulliver   May-01-05 11:04 AM   #59 
  - "How Do I Hate Thee?..Let Me Count The Ways..."  Hidden Stillness   May-01-05 12:19 PM   #60 
  - I should no doubt feel chastised but ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 01:16 PM   #65 
  - "Democratic credentials"  enough already   May-01-05 01:28 PM   #68 
  - I am speaking to my own credentials ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 01:30 PM   #70 
  - Well  Mondon   May-02-05 09:28 AM   #144 
  - I wonder why some of those DUers who are such experts on what Clinton  beaconess   May-01-05 07:20 PM   #93 
  - *applause*  asthmaticeog   May-01-05 01:21 PM   #67 
  - Your argument is so 1998  lojasmo   May-01-05 01:09 PM   #63 
  - I formed my opinion of Clinton after reading Wellstone's book  Hippo_Tron   May-01-05 01:14 PM   #64 
  - hey, I don't think he's on the same level as Limbaugh  ulysses   May-01-05 01:18 PM   #66 
  - I don't hate Bill, I pity him....  unkachuck   May-01-05 01:30 PM   #69 
  - Wow...  sendero   May-01-05 02:04 PM   #72 
  - I can give you the top two reasons that the Right hates Bill Clinton.  tedoll78   May-01-05 04:16 PM   #73 
  - me too  sad_one   May-01-05 11:41 PM   #129 
  - I just love "dirty whittle Billy"  laugle   May-01-05 04:34 PM   #74 
  - My problem with Hillary is that she would not be here if Bill had not  Mass   May-01-05 04:37 PM   #75 
  - Another way to look at Hillary - given her brains, credentials and talent,  beaconess   May-01-05 07:25 PM   #94 
  - Not everyone can have clawed their way to the top like Bush has. n/t  patricia92243   May-01-05 07:42 PM   #96 
     - And Hillary is different because??  Mass   May-01-05 07:46 PM   #98 
  - I stopped reading when you said that NAFTA might "be the right thing"  w4rma   May-01-05 04:48 PM   #76 
  - Bragging about having stopped reading at a certain ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 04:50 PM   #78 
     - As soon as you made your point that you support NAFTA that told me *why*  w4rma   May-01-05 05:37 PM   #81 
  - Sorry, I thought he was great UNTIL I learned of the things he  Sugarbleus   May-01-05 04:50 PM   #77 
  - as compared to whom? nt  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 04:51 PM   #79 
  - FDR.........LBJ.........n/t  Sugarbleus   May-01-05 06:00 PM   #83 
     - FDR was good ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 06:09 PM   #84 
        - I just think in simple terms. Do the elected get the people's needs  Sugarbleus   May-01-05 06:33 PM   #87 
  - Did Clinton promise to investigate Iran Contra?  wyldwolf   May-01-05 06:42 PM   #88 
     - Poppie made the crucial pardons at Christmas, '92 ...  Pepperbelly   May-01-05 08:29 PM   #105 
        - right...so....?  wyldwolf   May-01-05 08:42 PM   #107 
  - I like winners. When Clintons have gone up against Republicans, they have  patricia92243   May-01-05 04:55 PM   #80 
  - Amen.  TacticalPeek   May-01-05 05:57 PM   #82 
  - When the left and the right hate you, you must be on to something  wyldwolf   May-01-05 06:21 PM   #85 
  - I object to the entire term "Left Wing Clinton Hater"  AntiCoup2K4   May-01-05 06:43 PM   #89 
  - ...but much more accurate than, say...  wyldwolf   May-01-05 07:09 PM   #90 
  - GREAT post!  beaconess   May-01-05 07:11 PM   #91 
  - I will not reward someone who voted to give Bush a blank  Skwmom   May-01-05 07:33 PM   #95 
  - the thread is about Bill, not Hillary... and...  wyldwolf   May-01-05 07:46 PM   #97 
     - I think you need to reread the thread.  Skwmom   May-01-05 07:52 PM   #100 
        - perhaps you do  wyldwolf   May-01-05 07:56 PM   #101 
           - Did you observe the last primary?  Skwmom   May-01-05 08:28 PM   #104 
              - I WORKED in the last primary...  wyldwolf   May-01-05 08:34 PM   #106 
                 - To provide a thorough detailed analysis would require  Skwmom   May-01-05 08:46 PM   #108 
                    - show me a Time, Newsweek, NY Times article... anything..  wyldwolf   May-01-05 08:52 PM   #109 
                       - So let me get this straight  Skwmom   May-01-05 09:14 PM   #112 
                          - you got it  wyldwolf   May-01-05 09:20 PM   #115 
                             - I knew the old "conspiracy" and "sour grapes"  Skwmom   May-01-05 09:36 PM   #117 
                                - If you have dealt in FACTS your entire life...  wyldwolf   May-02-05 04:46 AM   #132 
                                   - So you are asserting that the Republicans and corporate  Skwmom   May-02-05 06:16 AM   #135 
                                      - how was it manipulated in a fashion different ...  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 06:20 AM   #136 
                                         - see, that's what he/she won't answer  wyldwolf   May-02-05 09:48 AM   #147 
                                            - I'm sure the process has always been corrupt  Skwmom   May-02-05 02:56 PM   #160 
                                               - It's always been political  wyldwolf   May-02-05 04:01 PM   #161 
                                                  - Worst form of government, except for all the others. n/t  Mondon   May-02-05 05:30 PM   #171 
  - I'm anti-war-Clinton just told anti-war people to put feelings aside  liveoaktx   May-01-05 07:49 PM   #99 
  - I agree with him 100%  wyldwolf   May-01-05 08:07 PM   #103 
  - When I heard Clinton say on Larry King...  borg5575   May-01-05 08:55 PM   #111 
  - It's stuff like this (as well as numerous other little things)  Skwmom   May-01-05 09:38 PM   #118 
  - well whats he going to say,  Deaniac20   May-01-05 10:02 PM   #120 
     - I just don't think he has to mention it-why even say what and how  liveoaktx   May-01-05 11:14 PM   #127 
  - I don't hate anyone.  Kitka   May-01-05 07:59 PM   #102 
  - 8 years of peace and prosperity  IronLionZion   May-01-05 08:53 PM   #110 
  - Peace and prosperity...  Kitka   May-01-05 09:16 PM   #113 
     - and Bush?  IronLionZion   May-01-05 09:26 PM   #116 
        - I'm not talking about Bush.  Kitka   May-01-05 09:39 PM   #119 
           - Actually, I think Clinton did well in Eastern Europe and the Middle East  IronLionZion   May-01-05 10:54 PM   #124 
              - If you consider killing children doing well I suppose.  Kitka   May-02-05 09:34 AM   #145 
                 - Funny,  Mondon   May-02-05 05:31 PM   #172 
                    - Not sure how that qualifies as irony....  Kitka   May-02-05 07:12 PM   #180 
  - Clinton good/Clinton bad  union_maid   May-01-05 09:18 PM   #114 
  - Wrong? Just extreme. For the most part, ignorably.  Festivito   May-01-05 10:05 PM   #121 
  - Just because....  Kitka   May-01-05 10:33 PM   #123 
     - But, if anti-(against) a pragmatist. Then they ARE anti-pragmatists.  Festivito   May-01-05 10:59 PM   #125 
        - No, not necessarily.  Kitka   May-02-05 09:07 AM   #142 
           - You *WERE* "against Clinton" yet you continue to argue this.  Festivito   May-02-05 11:28 AM   #153 
              - Nah, it wasn't.  Kitka   May-02-05 07:07 PM   #179 
                 - Perhaps you could take this up with a superior, if you have one.  Festivito   May-02-05 11:38 PM   #186 
  - Clinton did some great things during his presidency  dsc   May-01-05 11:29 PM   #128 
  - Whom did Clinton say was unfit for public office...  Festivito   May-02-05 08:04 AM   #140 
     - Yes in Howard Dean's book  dsc   May-02-05 07:05 PM   #178 
        - Ahhh, I think the gist of that is not correct.  Festivito   May-03-05 12:23 AM   #188 
  - History Lesson: When Democrats Lean Right, They Lose  dsnail   May-01-05 11:51 PM   #130 
  - LW Clinton critic here - does that mean i'm correct?  rman   May-02-05 06:37 AM   #137 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-05 07:43 AM   #138 
  - Oh yeah, right, I must have missed that memo  MadHound   May-02-05 08:52 AM   #141 
  - whatever ...  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 04:33 PM   #162 
     - Tell my former neighbors in the inner city  MadHound   May-02-05 04:44 PM   #166 
        - I lived in the inner city during the decade ...  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 04:59 PM   #167 
           - So you did witness some of the worse effects of the Clinton administration  MadHound   May-02-05 05:05 PM   #169 
              - nope ... I saw it improve rapidly ...  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 05:33 PM   #174 
                 - Lucky you,  MadHound   May-03-05 10:08 AM   #193 
  - Just Read This...  ChiciB1   May-02-05 12:03 PM   #155 
  - Right on  Mondon   May-02-05 09:26 AM   #143 
  - Oh yes, thats why  Kitka   May-02-05 09:34 AM   #146 
  - if they leave, it is because they are not winning elections.  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 04:35 PM   #163 
     - Q.E.D. N/t  Mondon   May-02-05 05:33 PM   #173 
     - Not my point.  Kitka   May-02-05 06:59 PM   #177 
        - what I am telling you is that ...  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 08:01 PM   #181 
  - But what exactly is the 'left-wing' saying...  Q   May-02-05 10:54 AM   #151 
     - Well, nothing if you don't count their  Mondon   May-02-05 01:36 PM   #156 
        - england is a failed economy? sweden? germany? france?  xchrom   May-02-05 02:16 PM   #158 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-05 02:45 PM   #159 
              - botta-boom-botta-bing. nt  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 04:36 PM   #164 
              - whatever.  xchrom   May-02-05 06:22 PM   #176 
              - the u.n. you despise has done terrific things for millions.  xchrom   May-02-05 06:19 PM   #175 
  - Ah, the courageous defender of all things Clinton! You have to  ArkDem   May-02-05 10:00 AM   #148 
  - whatever ...nt  Pepperbelly   May-02-05 04:37 PM   #165 
  - I Just HAD To Chime In Here ....  ChiciB1   May-02-05 11:40 AM   #154 
  - Iraq Bombing Watch (how many times did Clinton bomb Iraq, anyways?)  Chico Man   May-02-05 02:09 PM   #157 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-05 05:02 PM   #168 
  - Clinton, relatively nice guy, but not liberal enough for me. The end.  GreenPartyVoter   May-02-05 08:26 PM   #182 
  - Bill Clinton WAS a great man and he will be remembered as such  bush_is_wacko   May-02-05 09:14 PM   #183 
  - Thank you!! Some one does one thing people on here don;t like and  beyurslf   May-02-05 10:35 PM   #184 
  - Well said  ZombyWoof   May-02-05 11:11 PM   #185 
  - no flame here  wyldwolf   May-03-05 04:55 AM   #189 
  - Other accomplishments during Clinton's administration,  ArkDem   May-03-05 09:11 AM   #191 
  - NAFTA was a money making scam dreamed up by Poppy Bush  Elwood P Dowd   May-03-05 12:01 AM   #187 
  - thanks for this thread  Blue_Roses   May-03-05 08:57 AM   #190 
  - Seizing the nomination also breeds distrust and discontent among  Larkspur   May-03-05 09:11 AM   #192 
 

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