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Thu Apr-21-05 10:33 PM
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| 11. Don't confuse his personality with the media's portrayal of him |
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There is no loose cannon. There's just a carefully crafted media message, based on filtering.
If the media introduced every clip of Bush with a clip of him storming off stage in a hissy fit because a reporter asked a question about Ken Lay, it would become Bush's defining moment. But they choose not to.
Dean is no more a loose cannon than any other politician.
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| -Possible flame bait: Is Howard Dean a loose cannon? |
Lone_Wolf_Moderate |
Apr-21-05 10:27 PM |
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This is flamebait, and why the hell are you quoting Limbaugh? NT |
NYCGirl |
Apr-21-05 10:28 PM |
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Where did he quote Limbaugh? |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 10:29 PM |
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The first paragraph. NT |
NYCGirl |
Apr-21-05 10:31 PM |
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still dont see it.. |
Dickie Flatt |
Apr-21-05 10:38 PM |
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A line-by-line analysis. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 10:41 PM |
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Since you called me "sir" before your edit, I didn't realize you were |
NYCGirl |
Apr-21-05 10:51 PM |
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Just trying to help you out...if you don't want it I'll step back... |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 10:55 PM |
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I'd appreciate that step back. NT |
NYCGirl |
Apr-21-05 10:56 PM |
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But I'll just heap one more ember into the furnace if I may... |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 10:59 PM |
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I don't appreciate the characterization "racheted fanatics" |
lojasmo |
Apr-22-05 07:58 AM |
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Who said it applied to you? |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-22-05 10:22 AM |
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That being said, it's a personal attack, and a shitty characterization.N/T |
lojasmo |
Apr-22-05 02:09 PM |
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No, but the OP calls it the "Limbaugh crack" |
Kipepeo |
Apr-21-05 11:13 PM |
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So if Rush Limbaugh quotes someone, we're no longer allowed to? |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 11:18 PM |
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How silly |
Kipepeo |
Apr-21-05 11:29 PM |
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Well then, all we have to do is make sure everyone listens correctly. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 11:35 PM |
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I would think it would be just as easy |
Kipepeo |
Apr-21-05 11:44 PM |
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People are going to go out of their way to misrepresent Dean |
lojasmo |
Apr-22-05 08:00 AM |
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I would agree. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-22-05 10:40 AM |
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He quoted Dean, not Limbaugh |
Psephos |
Apr-21-05 10:48 PM |
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This totalitarian approach to Dean really needs to stop. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 10:53 PM |
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who is shouting at you? |
Kipepeo |
Apr-21-05 11:14 PM |
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No one, not at me. You can't shout over the Internet anyways. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-21-05 11:19 PM |
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Really? Seeing Limbaugh twice in the post |
Kipepeo |
Apr-21-05 11:33 PM |
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I included Ask Jeeves in the searches as well. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 01:16 AM |
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YEEEEEEEEEARRRRRRRGH!!! |
Zynx |
Apr-21-05 10:28 PM |
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Really? I never heard that he was a hothead. Other than what was trumped |
NYCGirl |
Apr-21-05 10:30 PM |
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Screw ButtBoil |
larissa |
Apr-21-05 10:30 PM |
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The only reason they "backfire" ... |
BattyDem |
Apr-21-05 10:30 PM |
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Yeah, I know. My point was that no matter what Repubs do, |
Lone_Wolf_Moderate |
Apr-21-05 10:33 PM |
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So, they're gonna do it any goddamn way. |
Dr.Phool |
Apr-21-05 10:46 PM |
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So you are saying we should be proper to please the Republicans. |
madfloridian |
Apr-21-05 11:10 PM |
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I understand what you're saying, but ... |
BattyDem |
Apr-21-05 11:14 PM |
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So what does he do, then? How does he overcome that? |
Lone_Wolf_Moderate |
Apr-22-05 12:04 PM |
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Dean is not fueling fires, those like Limbaugh fuel the fires |
Kipepeo |
Apr-21-05 11:23 PM |
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Correction |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Apr-21-05 10:32 PM |
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People seem to think that lashing out is bad. |
brokensymmetry |
Apr-21-05 10:33 PM |
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I'm all for courage. I respect Dean's passion. |
Lone_Wolf_Moderate |
Apr-21-05 10:39 PM |
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Careful of what? |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 12:15 AM |
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You are aware that most newspaper archived articles are |
HopeLives |
Apr-22-05 08:06 AM |
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Don't confuse his personality with the media's portrayal of him |
lwfern |
Apr-21-05 10:33 PM |
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OK, good point. |
Lone_Wolf_Moderate |
Apr-21-05 10:43 PM |
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Yes. So the *uck what? |
johncoby2 |
Apr-21-05 10:33 PM |
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Is that what O'Reilly said? |
madfloridian |
Apr-21-05 10:38 PM |
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I was THERE. |
Carolab |
Apr-21-05 10:42 PM |
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Yeah, he is. |
Dickie Flatt |
Apr-21-05 10:40 PM |
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Well of course the pubbie spin will be that Howard's a hothead ... |
Meeker Morgan |
Apr-21-05 10:44 PM |
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Someone asked him last night if the party made him chairman because... |
Carolab |
Apr-21-05 10:46 PM |
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Yeah, really! |
larissa |
Apr-21-05 10:50 PM |
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I heard it was funny, not that vicious. |
madfloridian |
Apr-21-05 10:57 PM |
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You were there, your statement is not being noticed. |
madfloridian |
Apr-21-05 11:03 PM |
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I love Howard Dean! He tells the truth and did it before |
asjr |
Apr-21-05 10:49 PM |
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Dean has chronic foot-in-mouth syndrome |
Azathoth |
Apr-21-05 10:51 PM |
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LOL The GOP will turn anyone into anything. |
madfloridian |
Apr-21-05 10:58 PM |
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Dean speaks the truth and that is what people want. |
Carolab |
Apr-21-05 11:01 PM |
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I hate to break it to you |
Azathoth |
Apr-21-05 11:21 PM |
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Oh, I see, you speak for all of the moderate average voters out there. |
Carolab |
Apr-21-05 11:43 PM |
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No, I speak as a moderate liberal |
Azathoth |
Apr-22-05 12:09 AM |
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Do not do the worship thing. It is belittling to us. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 12:17 AM |
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I'm not offended by what he says either |
Azathoth |
Apr-22-05 12:36 AM |
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I just don't find his statements that controversial. I know what she means |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 12:44 AM |
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I think 99% of what he says is spot on |
Azathoth |
Apr-22-05 01:13 AM |
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I think we have the Stockholm Syndrome. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 01:16 AM |
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Well, I'm not particularly afraid of offending GOP nutballs |
Azathoth |
Apr-22-05 01:33 AM |
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what you're essentially saying |
darboy |
Apr-22-05 08:38 AM |
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I think what he is saying is, umm, what he is saying |
Psephos |
Apr-22-05 10:40 AM |
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the point of my post |
darboy |
Apr-22-05 11:24 AM |
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I think we agree on the principle, but are using different wording |
Psephos |
Apr-22-05 06:59 PM |
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Who thought it was racist? |
ieoeja |
Apr-22-05 12:40 PM |
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Because he teased Rush, we will lose elections? |
madfloridian |
Apr-21-05 11:00 PM |
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I don't know that I think he's a loose cannon |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-21-05 11:04 PM |
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Dean fights fire with fire. |
Carolab |
Apr-21-05 11:06 PM |
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Read my post again |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-21-05 11:07 PM |
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I re-read it. |
Carolab |
Apr-21-05 11:08 PM |
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Good for you |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-21-05 11:11 PM |
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My favorite "Dean Speak" |
lyonn |
Apr-21-05 11:07 PM |
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LMAO. Another one was when he commented on the terrorist .. |
Crazy Guggenheim |
Apr-22-05 01:00 AM |
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Ok, I included Ask Jeeves in the searches. Still nothing. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 01:13 AM |
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Chickenshit bullshit. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-21-05 11:10 PM |
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Yes |
Cash |
Apr-21-05 11:10 PM |
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Yes. He's crazy and he keeps small children in his basement and eats |
MrsGrumpy |
Apr-21-05 11:16 PM |
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Yeah, so what? |
Gyre |
Apr-21-05 11:19 PM |
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Exactly how did it backfire? |
tasteblind |
Apr-21-05 11:19 PM |
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Ok, help me out here. I just did googles and yahoos on this. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 12:02 AM |
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No, but I think the opening post is. n/t |
Clarkie1 |
Apr-22-05 12:11 AM |
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Limpdick quoted Dean out of context |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Apr-22-05 12:13 AM |
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I don't see where just saying the truth....... |
LeftofU |
Apr-22-05 12:22 AM |
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Apr-22-05 12:47 AM |
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Dean's the loose cannon I would bring to a duel! LMAO! |
Crazy Guggenheim |
Apr-22-05 12:54 AM |
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So let me get this straight |
FredScuttle |
Apr-22-05 12:59 AM |
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Someone else who was there thought it was funny as well. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 01:50 AM |
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Dean does not say any of this in "temper" |
mandyky |
Apr-22-05 05:27 AM |
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IF speaking the truth in the present climate makes one |
CWebster |
Apr-22-05 06:26 AM |
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Speaking their minds.. |
sendero |
Apr-22-05 07:32 AM |
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Dean needs to 'lash out' even more... |
Q |
Apr-22-05 08:15 AM |
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The media quote Dean out of context all the time. It's all they |
janx |
Apr-22-05 09:34 AM |
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You took Dean's statement on "hating Republicans" out of context |
WI_DEM |
Apr-22-05 10:44 AM |
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no |
MollyStark |
Apr-22-05 11:27 AM |
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Will we continue to allow the republicans to determine our fate? |
Wizard777 |
Apr-22-05 11:30 AM |
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No |
goodhue |
Apr-22-05 11:49 AM |
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DU covers it for over 12 hours, O'Reilly covers it. |
madfloridian |
Apr-22-05 11:54 AM |
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