| 171. I get attacked all the time for asking where our leadership is, yesterday |
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someone accused me of trying to destroy the Democratic party.
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| -Blaming the Media Does NOT Cut It Anymore |
Dr Fate |
Apr-05-05 11:54 PM |
#0 |
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Here Here! |
oxbow |
Apr-05-05 11:59 PM |
#1 |
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So right you are. |
Nite Owl |
Apr-05-05 11:59 PM |
#2 |
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And we don't have to make anything up either. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:07 AM |
#7 |
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sorry, you are wrong |
montana500 |
Apr-06-05 09:34 PM |
#133 |
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How do we know their careers would be over???? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:58 PM |
#137 |
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I understand your point, |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-06-05 12:03 AM |
#3 |
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Clark spoke out against Bush WMD lies. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:04 AM |
#4 |
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STAY ON LIES: lies linked to lies and the method: |
chomskysright |
Apr-06-05 01:09 PM |
#68 |
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I agree with you 100% |
jojo54 |
Apr-06-05 12:05 AM |
#5 |
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You have a point there |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 12:07 AM |
#6 |
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Actually, we could be on national TV every night too. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:09 AM |
#8 |
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see my post #9 above, "Into the Buzzsaw" |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 12:11 AM |
#10 |
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Who has ever refused Kerry, Obama , Dean or Hillary an interview??? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:21 AM |
#19 |
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Exactly what.. |
sendero |
Apr-06-05 07:35 AM |
#46 |
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BULLSEYE! n/t |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:41 PM |
#72 |
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You're right, NAO. We can't let the media off the hook. |
zanne |
Apr-06-05 07:47 AM |
#49 |
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We cant let our DEM leaders off the hook either. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:42 PM |
#73 |
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And they can edit it any way they want |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 12:16 AM |
#16 |
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Demand live interviews to their faces. Call them on it when they edit. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:22 AM |
#20 |
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It's easier to blame the media |
Leilani |
Apr-06-05 01:05 AM |
#29 |
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(robotic voice) I disagree. The party is |
Stew225 |
Apr-06-05 03:56 AM |
#43 |
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This is how bullying works. Don't stop criticising because of it!..n/t |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-06-05 02:19 PM |
#91 |
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Not just Bush* but the entire GOP especially Delay and Santorum |
Toots |
Apr-06-05 09:06 AM |
#58 |
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Read "Into the Buzzsaw" for a brutal expose of corporate media censorship |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 12:09 AM |
#9 |
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Which shows have turned down Kerry, Hilary, Obama or Dean interviews? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:11 AM |
#11 |
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A Perfect Reason Why We Need Get Rid Of Our Dems |
ChiciB1 |
Apr-06-05 12:11 AM |
#12 |
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DEMS who are afraid of Judy Woodruff have no place being leaders. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:15 AM |
#13 |
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So glad you've spoken. If you hold your breath real long... |
ClassWarrior |
Apr-06-05 12:15 AM |
#14 |
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DEMS can say whatever they want on the corporate media. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:16 AM |
#17 |
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Tell that to Paul Wellstone. n/t |
tasteblind |
Apr-06-05 07:48 AM |
#50 |
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Kerry, Obama, Hilary & Dean are alive & well... |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:44 PM |
#74 |
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What does that have to do with my post? |
tasteblind |
Apr-06-05 01:52 PM |
#78 |
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If that is true, then they should say it on TV. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:13 PM |
#89 |
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You're telling me. |
tasteblind |
Apr-06-05 03:22 PM |
#103 |
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Exactly. There is a long list of impeachable actions. |
firefox |
Apr-06-05 12:16 AM |
#15 |
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Exactly- but no one is stopping DEMS from asking the GOP: |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:20 AM |
#18 |
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Yes, Democrats should be more vocal... |
feelthebreeze |
Apr-06-05 12:27 AM |
#21 |
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I KNOW the Corporate media is Pro-Republican. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:33 AM |
#22 |
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Liberals need to get ACCESS to the media, too, though |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 12:47 AM |
#23 |
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Who has ever refused Kerry, Obama , Dean or Hillary an interview??? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:49 AM |
#24 |
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Those people are all pansies |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 12:54 AM |
#25 |
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I hear you & agree- and that is part of my point! |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:58 AM |
#27 |
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That's why I'm pushing voting reforms so hard DrFate |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 01:03 AM |
#28 |
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I'll always be a capital "D" Democrat. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:10 AM |
#30 |
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I can respect that |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 01:16 AM |
#31 |
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BTW, there's NO way approval voting can split moderates/progressives/etc |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 02:47 AM |
#35 |
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Liberals need to DEMAND rebuttal time. |
Skidmore |
Apr-06-05 07:42 AM |
#48 |
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I agree with you completely |
Leilani |
Apr-06-05 12:58 AM |
#26 |
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How about not playing the blame... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 01:59 AM |
#32 |
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The problem is not that the media didn't cover Conyers... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:25 AM |
#53 |
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This is not correct |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 10:57 AM |
#63 |
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Who stopped kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama from talking about this on TV? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:13 PM |
#90 |
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BULLS EYE. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:07 PM |
#86 |
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Who is stopping us from GIVING the facts ourselves... |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:47 PM |
#75 |
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One possible explanation... |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-06-05 02:03 AM |
#33 |
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That's some scary shit right there |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 02:50 AM |
#37 |
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Liberty Lobby... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 02:54 AM |
#38 |
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No conspiracy accusations here. I believe the truth is uglier |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-06-05 05:42 PM |
#109 |
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That leaves |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 07:51 PM |
#123 |
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Something tells me you've seen "JFKII" |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-06-05 11:37 PM |
#143 |
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JFKII? |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-07-05 03:32 AM |
#144 |
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Check your IM ... n/t |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-07-05 05:32 AM |
#146 |
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One more thing... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 03:03 AM |
#39 |
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Ha! G'night lala, Im in the same time zone as you and sleepy too. |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 03:12 AM |
#40 |
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After 2006 |
PowerToThePeople |
Apr-06-05 02:09 AM |
#34 |
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No need for tin-foil hats- We can stick to plain, honest, blunt facts. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:24 PM |
#92 |
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Just tapping this thread to say 'right on' Dr., right on. -n/t |
Al-CIAda |
Apr-06-05 02:49 AM |
#36 |
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how do they get on TV to do that? |
leftofthedial |
Apr-06-05 03:25 AM |
#41 |
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Pick up the phone & say "Hi Wolf, Hillary Clinton Speaking..." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:50 PM |
#76 |
| -
how do they get on TV to do that? |
leftofthedial |
Apr-06-05 03:25 AM |
#42 |
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Why do you think big media would cover Kerry, Hillary, Dean, Obama on |
w4rma |
Apr-06-05 05:57 AM |
#44 |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:52 PM |
#77 |
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gop=media. media is independent of gop |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-05 07:05 AM |
#45 |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:53 PM |
#79 |
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Not true - look at how they played the Pope tributes |
karynnj |
Apr-06-05 07:38 AM |
#47 |
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Very well said |
moggie12 |
Apr-06-05 08:26 AM |
#54 |
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I see- so we give up then? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:43 PM |
#96 |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:55 PM |
#80 |
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You are saying one thing, I'm making a different point |
karynnj |
Apr-06-05 07:55 PM |
#124 |
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I have nothing to disagree with in that post. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 10:04 PM |
#139 |
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Kerry did talk about SS in very clear terms and called Bush on it |
karynnj |
Apr-07-05 11:04 AM |
#150 |
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Nothing that makes a "hot" headline though. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 06:20 PM |
#160 |
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I agree to disagree |
karynnj |
Apr-08-05 09:03 AM |
#170 |
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Ah...the refreshing truth... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:14 AM |
#51 |
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Wrong |
MollyStark |
Apr-06-05 08:21 AM |
#52 |
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WRONG. I've never once heard any DEM call Bush a "liar." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:58 PM |
#81 |
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FWIW, I recall Edwards doing just that. |
Lerkfish |
Apr-06-05 06:55 PM |
#112 |
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He should have said it 100 times- and got 100 other DEMS to say it too. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:05 PM |
#114 |
| -
so do you prefer bipartisanship to govt shutdowns? |
tinanator |
Apr-06-05 08:32 AM |
#55 |
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I cant blame Wolf Blitzer for what Kerry or Obama won't say. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:59 PM |
#82 |
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oh heck no, and dont blame Wolf for his chosen profession |
tinanator |
Apr-08-05 09:35 AM |
#175 |
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I agree with you to a certain extent |
MadHound |
Apr-06-05 08:36 AM |
#56 |
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Many Dems will continue to blame the media... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:47 AM |
#57 |
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Things get real simple when you are through making excuses!!! |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:09 PM |
#88 |
| -
Agree. Our Democrats must swallow differences and stand together so |
KoKo01 |
Apr-08-05 09:20 AM |
#173 |
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AMEN! If you read Banana Republican and other books about |
spunky |
Apr-06-05 09:19 AM |
#59 |
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The sooner we realize the lines are drawn by CLASS, not party... |
rucky |
Apr-06-05 09:29 AM |
#60 |
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Dean does a pretty good job but Jon Stewart beats them all...... |
LibertyorDeath |
Apr-06-05 09:32 AM |
#61 |
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You're out of touch!! |
The Gigmeister |
Apr-06-05 09:42 AM |
#62 |
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Who is stopping kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama from talking about this? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:00 PM |
#83 |
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Go ahead, freak out. Unless, you've something better to do. |
Festivito |
Apr-06-05 11:32 AM |
#64 |
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We don't know if the effect would be marginal or great. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:02 PM |
#84 |
| -
Suggesting the 4pm cable to fight the 6pm news. |
Festivito |
Apr-06-05 02:50 PM |
#97 |
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I never ever suggested leaving the media alone. I suggest CONFRONTATION. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:54 PM |
#99 |
| -
YES! |
Dave Sund |
Apr-06-05 11:48 AM |
#65 |
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Just simply not true |
Tactical Progressive |
Apr-06-05 01:30 PM |
#69 |
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Yes- the media is indeed Pro-Republican, no doubt. Still... |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:06 PM |
#85 |
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Sorry, Doc, but you're crazy if you think they can just "get on tv" any |
blm |
Apr-06-05 12:54 PM |
#66 |
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This is EXACTLY the Problem. You can't just "go on TV". |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 01:32 PM |
#70 |
| -
Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:08 PM |
#87 |
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I think agents have to book appearances on shows |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 02:36 PM |
#93 |
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no problem-They can alternate appearances then. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:41 PM |
#95 |
| -
Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:40 PM |
#71 |
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You think they can TELL a program they want an interview? |
blm |
Apr-06-05 02:38 PM |
#94 |
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If true, Kerry never mentioned it. His fault. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:52 PM |
#98 |
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I agree. Media has to be called on it and it should be done en masse. ALL |
blm |
Apr-06-05 03:00 PM |
#100 |
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I'm glad you are trying to see where I'm coming from. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 03:22 PM |
#102 |
| -
This straw man won't do the trick |
John_H |
Apr-08-05 08:12 AM |
#169 |
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its not a media blaming event: its the document of ORCHESTRATION OF DECEIT |
chomskysright |
Apr-06-05 01:08 PM |
#67 |
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I get your beef |
Generator |
Apr-06-05 03:06 PM |
#101 |
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You have to follow up, maintain unity and repeat, repeat repeat. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 03:26 PM |
#104 |
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You beat me to it: The Dean Scream as a Silencer |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 03:50 PM |
#105 |
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The media did not grant Kerry interviews? Can you prove that? Which show? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 05:00 PM |
#106 |
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The Repubs yelled & screamed for years |
Leilani |
Apr-06-05 05:28 PM |
#107 |
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You are right- and Wolf Blitzer & Brit Hume cant stop them either. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 05:31 PM |
#108 |
| -
Not an explicit denial; Cynthia McKinney asked "What/When did Bush Know?" |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 07:27 PM |
#117 |
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As a Georgia boy, I love her. Problem is, she is like Boxer or Conyers. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:31 PM |
#119 |
| -
What on earth are you talking about? |
Tactical Progressive |
Apr-06-05 05:52 PM |
#110 |
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Whatever it is that DUers say the media is refusing to report. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 06:21 PM |
#111 |
| -
What other excuses can the Dem faithful come up with... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 07:04 PM |
#113 |
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I am a proud member of the DEM Faithful. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:09 PM |
#115 |
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My version of "how we can make it happen" is in post #125 |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 08:08 PM |
#127 |
| -
But you're faithful to the Democratic Party... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
#129 |
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You have crystalized my thoughts once again. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:52 PM |
#135 |
| -
Very true... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 07:11 PM |
#116 |
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Because moderates & swing-voters don't listen to Air America. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:28 PM |
#118 |
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Because the sleepwalking masses believe, and vote, based on MSM |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 07:37 PM |
#120 |
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I do believe I heard on the radio yesterday... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 07:37 PM |
#121 |
| -
Another good source for unbiased news is PBS... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 07:46 PM |
#122 |
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What Needs to be Done: Pour Resources into an Aggressive Media Strategy |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 08:00 PM |
#125 |
| -
Hmmm...That's a GOOD Plan! |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 08:12 PM |
#128 |
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I was thinking along the lines of a petition as well |
NAO |
Apr-07-05 10:40 AM |
#149 |
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I love it. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:54 PM |
#136 |
| -
Has anyone noticed.... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 08:03 PM |
#126 |
| -
Just found out... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 08:48 PM |
#132 |
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What's stopping them? |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-06-05 08:33 PM |
#130 |
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Yes, I want them to buy 30sec spots unrelated to any candidate or campaign |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 08:47 PM |
#131 |
| -
Who is refusing to interview Kerry, Hillary, Obama or Dean??? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:51 PM |
#134 |
| -
Send? |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-06-05 10:01 PM |
#138 |
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"Hi, Wolf? Hillary Clinton speaking..." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 10:10 PM |
#141 |
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The answer to your question is: ALL of them are being refused. |
blm |
Apr-06-05 10:08 PM |
#140 |
| -
"Sure Wolf- we will talk about whatever you want..." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 10:13 PM |
#142 |
| -
After reading responses to this thread... |
Q |
Apr-07-05 04:13 AM |
#145 |
| -
Wrong, Q. We want to wake Dems up to the fact the media is now under |
blm |
Apr-07-05 09:18 AM |
#147 |
| -
I didn't point you or 'they' out in particular... |
Q |
Apr-07-05 11:56 AM |
#153 |
| -
Why havent they realized it- like 3 years ago? Are they asleep? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 05:39 PM |
#157 |
| -
There is NO GIVEUP. It is the media that must be attacked. |
blm |
Apr-07-05 09:25 AM |
#148 |
| -
Er- we already ARE labeled bitter partisans. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 05:36 PM |
#156 |
| -
The Radical RW blamed the media for 30 years before it had any effect... |
ClassWarrior |
Apr-07-05 11:06 AM |
#151 |
| -
Never did and glad to see your post. |
Tinoire |
Apr-07-05 11:37 AM |
#152 |
| -
"But DEMS are fighting- didn't you read that letter on the internet? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 06:01 PM |
#159 |
| -
Stop it. You're killing me! |
Tinoire |
Apr-07-05 06:33 PM |
#161 |
| -
EXACTLY!!! |
im10ashus |
Apr-07-05 12:16 PM |
#154 |
| -
Your assertion is silly! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-07-05 12:27 PM |
#155 |
| -
Obviously you did not read anything I wrote. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 05:47 PM |
#158 |
| -
Hey Doc.... |
Catchawave |
Apr-07-05 06:53 PM |
#162 |
| -
DUers keep saying over & over that the media wont cover certain stories. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 10:21 PM |
#166 |
| -
The issue is not as B/W as you indicate |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-08-05 09:32 AM |
#174 |
| -
They need to start making the DAMN BOLD STATEMENTS AGAIN |
WLKjr |
Apr-07-05 06:59 PM |
#163 |
| -
Blaming the Dem leadership does NOT cut it anymore. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-07-05 07:10 PM |
#164 |
| -
I cant blame CNN or FOX for what many DEMS refuse to say. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 10:18 PM |
#165 |
| -
You're right. Thanks for this thread...nominated. (nt) |
goodboy |
Apr-08-05 09:15 AM |
#172 |
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I agree. It's an excuse they hide behind. Just like voting unethically |
leesa |
Apr-07-05 10:56 PM |
#167 |
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The fact, the bottom line, the way it is, the sad truth: |
John_H |
Apr-08-05 08:03 AM |
#168 |
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I get attacked all the time for asking where our leadership is, yesterday |
goodboy |
Apr-08-05 09:13 AM |
#171 |
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