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Wed Apr-06-05 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #112 |
| 114. He should have said it 100 times- and got 100 other DEMS to say it too. |
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Then it would not have been ignored.
That is the rub- saying it once and then dropping the matter is not how it is done- did the Republicans mention various Clinton scandals just once?
For the most part, Edwards rarely appeared on TV during the campaign, relying on local news media outlets to cover his stump speeches- I liked that strategy, but in retrospect, he should have been doing via-sattelite interviews on national TV every evening as well...
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| -Blaming the Media Does NOT Cut It Anymore |
Dr Fate |
Apr-05-05 11:54 PM |
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Here Here! |
oxbow |
Apr-05-05 11:59 PM |
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So right you are. |
Nite Owl |
Apr-05-05 11:59 PM |
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And we don't have to make anything up either. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:07 AM |
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sorry, you are wrong |
montana500 |
Apr-06-05 09:34 PM |
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How do we know their careers would be over???? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:58 PM |
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I understand your point, |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-06-05 12:03 AM |
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Clark spoke out against Bush WMD lies. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:04 AM |
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STAY ON LIES: lies linked to lies and the method: |
chomskysright |
Apr-06-05 01:09 PM |
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I agree with you 100% |
jojo54 |
Apr-06-05 12:05 AM |
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You have a point there |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 12:07 AM |
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Actually, we could be on national TV every night too. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:09 AM |
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see my post #9 above, "Into the Buzzsaw" |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 12:11 AM |
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Who has ever refused Kerry, Obama , Dean or Hillary an interview??? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:21 AM |
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Exactly what.. |
sendero |
Apr-06-05 07:35 AM |
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BULLSEYE! n/t |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:41 PM |
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You're right, NAO. We can't let the media off the hook. |
zanne |
Apr-06-05 07:47 AM |
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We cant let our DEM leaders off the hook either. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:42 PM |
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And they can edit it any way they want |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 12:16 AM |
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Demand live interviews to their faces. Call them on it when they edit. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:22 AM |
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It's easier to blame the media |
Leilani |
Apr-06-05 01:05 AM |
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(robotic voice) I disagree. The party is |
Stew225 |
Apr-06-05 03:56 AM |
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This is how bullying works. Don't stop criticising because of it!..n/t |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-06-05 02:19 PM |
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Not just Bush* but the entire GOP especially Delay and Santorum |
Toots |
Apr-06-05 09:06 AM |
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Read "Into the Buzzsaw" for a brutal expose of corporate media censorship |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 12:09 AM |
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Which shows have turned down Kerry, Hilary, Obama or Dean interviews? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:11 AM |
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A Perfect Reason Why We Need Get Rid Of Our Dems |
ChiciB1 |
Apr-06-05 12:11 AM |
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DEMS who are afraid of Judy Woodruff have no place being leaders. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:15 AM |
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So glad you've spoken. If you hold your breath real long... |
ClassWarrior |
Apr-06-05 12:15 AM |
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DEMS can say whatever they want on the corporate media. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:16 AM |
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Tell that to Paul Wellstone. n/t |
tasteblind |
Apr-06-05 07:48 AM |
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Kerry, Obama, Hilary & Dean are alive & well... |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:44 PM |
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What does that have to do with my post? |
tasteblind |
Apr-06-05 01:52 PM |
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If that is true, then they should say it on TV. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:13 PM |
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You're telling me. |
tasteblind |
Apr-06-05 03:22 PM |
#103 |
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Exactly. There is a long list of impeachable actions. |
firefox |
Apr-06-05 12:16 AM |
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Exactly- but no one is stopping DEMS from asking the GOP: |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:20 AM |
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Yes, Democrats should be more vocal... |
feelthebreeze |
Apr-06-05 12:27 AM |
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I KNOW the Corporate media is Pro-Republican. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:33 AM |
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Liberals need to get ACCESS to the media, too, though |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 12:47 AM |
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Who has ever refused Kerry, Obama , Dean or Hillary an interview??? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:49 AM |
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Those people are all pansies |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 12:54 AM |
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I hear you & agree- and that is part of my point! |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 12:58 AM |
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That's why I'm pushing voting reforms so hard DrFate |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 01:03 AM |
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I'll always be a capital "D" Democrat. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:10 AM |
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I can respect that |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 01:16 AM |
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BTW, there's NO way approval voting can split moderates/progressives/etc |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 02:47 AM |
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Liberals need to DEMAND rebuttal time. |
Skidmore |
Apr-06-05 07:42 AM |
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I agree with you completely |
Leilani |
Apr-06-05 12:58 AM |
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How about not playing the blame... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 01:59 AM |
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The problem is not that the media didn't cover Conyers... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:25 AM |
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This is not correct |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 10:57 AM |
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Who stopped kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama from talking about this on TV? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:13 PM |
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BULLS EYE. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:07 PM |
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Who is stopping us from GIVING the facts ourselves... |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:47 PM |
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One possible explanation... |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-06-05 02:03 AM |
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That's some scary shit right there |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 02:50 AM |
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Liberty Lobby... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 02:54 AM |
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No conspiracy accusations here. I believe the truth is uglier |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-06-05 05:42 PM |
#109 |
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That leaves |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 07:51 PM |
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Something tells me you've seen "JFKII" |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-06-05 11:37 PM |
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JFKII? |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-07-05 03:32 AM |
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Check your IM ... n/t |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-07-05 05:32 AM |
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One more thing... |
lala_rawraw |
Apr-06-05 03:03 AM |
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Ha! G'night lala, Im in the same time zone as you and sleepy too. |
oxbow |
Apr-06-05 03:12 AM |
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After 2006 |
PowerToThePeople |
Apr-06-05 02:09 AM |
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No need for tin-foil hats- We can stick to plain, honest, blunt facts. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:24 PM |
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Just tapping this thread to say 'right on' Dr., right on. -n/t |
Al-CIAda |
Apr-06-05 02:49 AM |
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how do they get on TV to do that? |
leftofthedial |
Apr-06-05 03:25 AM |
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Pick up the phone & say "Hi Wolf, Hillary Clinton Speaking..." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:50 PM |
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how do they get on TV to do that? |
leftofthedial |
Apr-06-05 03:25 AM |
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Why do you think big media would cover Kerry, Hillary, Dean, Obama on |
w4rma |
Apr-06-05 05:57 AM |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:52 PM |
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gop=media. media is independent of gop |
seabeyond |
Apr-06-05 07:05 AM |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:53 PM |
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Not true - look at how they played the Pope tributes |
karynnj |
Apr-06-05 07:38 AM |
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Very well said |
moggie12 |
Apr-06-05 08:26 AM |
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I see- so we give up then? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:43 PM |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:55 PM |
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You are saying one thing, I'm making a different point |
karynnj |
Apr-06-05 07:55 PM |
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I have nothing to disagree with in that post. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 10:04 PM |
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Kerry did talk about SS in very clear terms and called Bush on it |
karynnj |
Apr-07-05 11:04 AM |
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Nothing that makes a "hot" headline though. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 06:20 PM |
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I agree to disagree |
karynnj |
Apr-08-05 09:03 AM |
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Ah...the refreshing truth... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:14 AM |
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Wrong |
MollyStark |
Apr-06-05 08:21 AM |
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WRONG. I've never once heard any DEM call Bush a "liar." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:58 PM |
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FWIW, I recall Edwards doing just that. |
Lerkfish |
Apr-06-05 06:55 PM |
#112 |
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He should have said it 100 times- and got 100 other DEMS to say it too. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:05 PM |
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so do you prefer bipartisanship to govt shutdowns? |
tinanator |
Apr-06-05 08:32 AM |
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I cant blame Wolf Blitzer for what Kerry or Obama won't say. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:59 PM |
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oh heck no, and dont blame Wolf for his chosen profession |
tinanator |
Apr-08-05 09:35 AM |
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I agree with you to a certain extent |
MadHound |
Apr-06-05 08:36 AM |
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Many Dems will continue to blame the media... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:47 AM |
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Things get real simple when you are through making excuses!!! |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:09 PM |
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Agree. Our Democrats must swallow differences and stand together so |
KoKo01 |
Apr-08-05 09:20 AM |
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AMEN! If you read Banana Republican and other books about |
spunky |
Apr-06-05 09:19 AM |
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The sooner we realize the lines are drawn by CLASS, not party... |
rucky |
Apr-06-05 09:29 AM |
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Dean does a pretty good job but Jon Stewart beats them all...... |
LibertyorDeath |
Apr-06-05 09:32 AM |
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You're out of touch!! |
The Gigmeister |
Apr-06-05 09:42 AM |
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Who is stopping kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama from talking about this? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:00 PM |
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Go ahead, freak out. Unless, you've something better to do. |
Festivito |
Apr-06-05 11:32 AM |
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We don't know if the effect would be marginal or great. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:02 PM |
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Suggesting the 4pm cable to fight the 6pm news. |
Festivito |
Apr-06-05 02:50 PM |
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I never ever suggested leaving the media alone. I suggest CONFRONTATION. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:54 PM |
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YES! |
Dave Sund |
Apr-06-05 11:48 AM |
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Just simply not true |
Tactical Progressive |
Apr-06-05 01:30 PM |
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Yes- the media is indeed Pro-Republican, no doubt. Still... |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:06 PM |
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Sorry, Doc, but you're crazy if you think they can just "get on tv" any |
blm |
Apr-06-05 12:54 PM |
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This is EXACTLY the Problem. You can't just "go on TV". |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 01:32 PM |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:08 PM |
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I think agents have to book appearances on shows |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 02:36 PM |
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no problem-They can alternate appearances then. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:41 PM |
#95 |
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Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 01:40 PM |
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You think they can TELL a program they want an interview? |
blm |
Apr-06-05 02:38 PM |
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If true, Kerry never mentioned it. His fault. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 02:52 PM |
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I agree. Media has to be called on it and it should be done en masse. ALL |
blm |
Apr-06-05 03:00 PM |
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I'm glad you are trying to see where I'm coming from. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 03:22 PM |
#102 |
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This straw man won't do the trick |
John_H |
Apr-08-05 08:12 AM |
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its not a media blaming event: its the document of ORCHESTRATION OF DECEIT |
chomskysright |
Apr-06-05 01:08 PM |
#67 |
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I get your beef |
Generator |
Apr-06-05 03:06 PM |
#101 |
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You have to follow up, maintain unity and repeat, repeat repeat. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 03:26 PM |
#104 |
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You beat me to it: The Dean Scream as a Silencer |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 03:50 PM |
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The media did not grant Kerry interviews? Can you prove that? Which show? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 05:00 PM |
#106 |
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The Repubs yelled & screamed for years |
Leilani |
Apr-06-05 05:28 PM |
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You are right- and Wolf Blitzer & Brit Hume cant stop them either. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 05:31 PM |
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Not an explicit denial; Cynthia McKinney asked "What/When did Bush Know?" |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 07:27 PM |
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As a Georgia boy, I love her. Problem is, she is like Boxer or Conyers. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:31 PM |
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What on earth are you talking about? |
Tactical Progressive |
Apr-06-05 05:52 PM |
#110 |
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Whatever it is that DUers say the media is refusing to report. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 06:21 PM |
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What other excuses can the Dem faithful come up with... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 07:04 PM |
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I am a proud member of the DEM Faithful. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:09 PM |
#115 |
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My version of "how we can make it happen" is in post #125 |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 08:08 PM |
#127 |
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But you're faithful to the Democratic Party... |
Q |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
#129 |
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You have crystalized my thoughts once again. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:52 PM |
#135 |
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Very true... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 07:11 PM |
#116 |
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Because moderates & swing-voters don't listen to Air America. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 07:28 PM |
#118 |
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Because the sleepwalking masses believe, and vote, based on MSM |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 07:37 PM |
#120 |
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I do believe I heard on the radio yesterday... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 07:37 PM |
#121 |
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Another good source for unbiased news is PBS... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 07:46 PM |
#122 |
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What Needs to be Done: Pour Resources into an Aggressive Media Strategy |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 08:00 PM |
#125 |
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Hmmm...That's a GOOD Plan! |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 08:12 PM |
#128 |
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I was thinking along the lines of a petition as well |
NAO |
Apr-07-05 10:40 AM |
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I love it. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:54 PM |
#136 |
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Has anyone noticed.... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 08:03 PM |
#126 |
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Just found out... |
cquik18 |
Apr-06-05 08:48 PM |
#132 |
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What's stopping them? |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-06-05 08:33 PM |
#130 |
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Yes, I want them to buy 30sec spots unrelated to any candidate or campaign |
NAO |
Apr-06-05 08:47 PM |
#131 |
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Who is refusing to interview Kerry, Hillary, Obama or Dean??? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 09:51 PM |
#134 |
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Send? |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-06-05 10:01 PM |
#138 |
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"Hi, Wolf? Hillary Clinton speaking..." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 10:10 PM |
#141 |
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The answer to your question is: ALL of them are being refused. |
blm |
Apr-06-05 10:08 PM |
#140 |
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"Sure Wolf- we will talk about whatever you want..." |
Dr Fate |
Apr-06-05 10:13 PM |
#142 |
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After reading responses to this thread... |
Q |
Apr-07-05 04:13 AM |
#145 |
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Wrong, Q. We want to wake Dems up to the fact the media is now under |
blm |
Apr-07-05 09:18 AM |
#147 |
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I didn't point you or 'they' out in particular... |
Q |
Apr-07-05 11:56 AM |
#153 |
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Why havent they realized it- like 3 years ago? Are they asleep? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 05:39 PM |
#157 |
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There is NO GIVEUP. It is the media that must be attacked. |
blm |
Apr-07-05 09:25 AM |
#148 |
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Er- we already ARE labeled bitter partisans. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 05:36 PM |
#156 |
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The Radical RW blamed the media for 30 years before it had any effect... |
ClassWarrior |
Apr-07-05 11:06 AM |
#151 |
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Never did and glad to see your post. |
Tinoire |
Apr-07-05 11:37 AM |
#152 |
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"But DEMS are fighting- didn't you read that letter on the internet? |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 06:01 PM |
#159 |
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Stop it. You're killing me! |
Tinoire |
Apr-07-05 06:33 PM |
#161 |
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EXACTLY!!! |
im10ashus |
Apr-07-05 12:16 PM |
#154 |
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Your assertion is silly! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-07-05 12:27 PM |
#155 |
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Obviously you did not read anything I wrote. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 05:47 PM |
#158 |
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Hey Doc.... |
Catchawave |
Apr-07-05 06:53 PM |
#162 |
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DUers keep saying over & over that the media wont cover certain stories. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 10:21 PM |
#166 |
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The issue is not as B/W as you indicate |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-08-05 09:32 AM |
#174 |
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They need to start making the DAMN BOLD STATEMENTS AGAIN |
WLKjr |
Apr-07-05 06:59 PM |
#163 |
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Blaming the Dem leadership does NOT cut it anymore. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-07-05 07:10 PM |
#164 |
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I cant blame CNN or FOX for what many DEMS refuse to say. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-07-05 10:18 PM |
#165 |
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You're right. Thanks for this thread...nominated. (nt) |
goodboy |
Apr-08-05 09:15 AM |
#172 |
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I agree. It's an excuse they hide behind. Just like voting unethically |
leesa |
Apr-07-05 10:56 PM |
#167 |
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The fact, the bottom line, the way it is, the sad truth: |
John_H |
Apr-08-05 08:03 AM |
#168 |
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I get attacked all the time for asking where our leadership is, yesterday |
goodboy |
Apr-08-05 09:13 AM |
#171 |
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