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47. Not true - look at how they played the Pope tributes
Kennedy gave a wonderful tribute from the Senate floor as a Catholic who had met the Pope. When the Pope dies Kennedy had issued a statement. Kerry issued a statement when the Pope died as well - also a thoughtful statement from a Catholic.

Other than on DU, where did hear or read these statements? On CNN I saw (or heard them read) various Republican statements, from non-Catholics such as Nancy Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sen. Frist. Surely, as the 2 most prominent Catholic political leaders, Kennedy and Kerry should have been sought out for comment - even if they hadn't issued the statements they did.

Also, look at the commentary - the Pope was like Reagan and Bush. He fought Communism. I don't remember the Pope being very supportive of either Reagan or Bush. With Bush in particular, I think the Pope had at least as much problem with the death penalty and the Iraq war as he did with abortion and gay marriage.
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  -Blaming the Media Does NOT Cut It Anymore Dr Fate  Apr-05-05 11:54 PM   #0 
  - Here Here!  oxbow   Apr-05-05 11:59 PM   #1 
  - So right you are.  Nite Owl   Apr-05-05 11:59 PM   #2 
  - And we don't have to make anything up either.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:07 AM   #7 
  - sorry, you are wrong  montana500   Apr-06-05 09:34 PM   #133 
     - How do we know their careers would be over????  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 09:58 PM   #137 
  - I understand your point,  FrenchieCat   Apr-06-05 12:03 AM   #3 
  - Clark spoke out against Bush WMD lies.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:04 AM   #4 
     - STAY ON LIES: lies linked to lies and the method:  chomskysright   Apr-06-05 01:09 PM   #68 
  - I agree with you 100%  jojo54   Apr-06-05 12:05 AM   #5 
  - You have a point there  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-06-05 12:07 AM   #6 
  - Actually, we could be on national TV every night too.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:09 AM   #8 
  - see my post #9 above, "Into the Buzzsaw"  NAO   Apr-06-05 12:11 AM   #10 
  - Who has ever refused Kerry, Obama , Dean or Hillary an interview???  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:21 AM   #19 
  - Exactly what..  sendero   Apr-06-05 07:35 AM   #46 
  - BULLSEYE! n/t  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:41 PM   #72 
  - You're right, NAO. We can't let the media off the hook.  zanne   Apr-06-05 07:47 AM   #49 
     - We cant let our DEM leaders off the hook either.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:42 PM   #73 
  - And they can edit it any way they want  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-06-05 12:16 AM   #16 
     - Demand live interviews to their faces. Call them on it when they edit.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:22 AM   #20 
        - It's easier to blame the media  Leilani   Apr-06-05 01:05 AM   #29 
           - (robotic voice) I disagree. The party is  Stew225   Apr-06-05 03:56 AM   #43 
              - This is how bullying works. Don't stop criticising because of it!..n/t  JohnOneillsMemory   Apr-06-05 02:19 PM   #91 
  - Not just Bush* but the entire GOP especially Delay and Santorum  Toots   Apr-06-05 09:06 AM   #58 
  - Read "Into the Buzzsaw" for a brutal expose of corporate media censorship  NAO   Apr-06-05 12:09 AM   #9 
  - Which shows have turned down Kerry, Hilary, Obama or Dean interviews?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:11 AM   #11 
  - A Perfect Reason Why We Need Get Rid Of Our Dems  ChiciB1   Apr-06-05 12:11 AM   #12 
  - DEMS who are afraid of Judy Woodruff have no place being leaders.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:15 AM   #13 
  - So glad you've spoken. If you hold your breath real long...  ClassWarrior   Apr-06-05 12:15 AM   #14 
  - DEMS can say whatever they want on the corporate media.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:16 AM   #17 
     - Tell that to Paul Wellstone. n/t  tasteblind   Apr-06-05 07:48 AM   #50 
        - Kerry, Obama, Hilary & Dean are alive & well...  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:44 PM   #74 
           - What does that have to do with my post?  tasteblind   Apr-06-05 01:52 PM   #78 
              - If that is true, then they should say it on TV.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:13 PM   #89 
                 - You're telling me.  tasteblind   Apr-06-05 03:22 PM   #103 
  - Exactly. There is a long list of impeachable actions.  firefox   Apr-06-05 12:16 AM   #15 
  - Exactly- but no one is stopping DEMS from asking the GOP:  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:20 AM   #18 
  - Yes, Democrats should be more vocal...  feelthebreeze   Apr-06-05 12:27 AM   #21 
  - I KNOW the Corporate media is Pro-Republican.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:33 AM   #22 
     - Liberals need to get ACCESS to the media, too, though  oxbow   Apr-06-05 12:47 AM   #23 
        - Who has ever refused Kerry, Obama , Dean or Hillary an interview???  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:49 AM   #24 
        - Those people are all pansies  oxbow   Apr-06-05 12:54 AM   #25 
           - I hear you & agree- and that is part of my point!  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 12:58 AM   #27 
              - That's why I'm pushing voting reforms so hard DrFate  oxbow   Apr-06-05 01:03 AM   #28 
                 - I'll always be a capital "D" Democrat.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:10 AM   #30 
                    - I can respect that  oxbow   Apr-06-05 01:16 AM   #31 
                    - BTW, there's NO way approval voting can split moderates/progressives/etc  oxbow   Apr-06-05 02:47 AM   #35 
        - Liberals need to DEMAND rebuttal time.  Skidmore   Apr-06-05 07:42 AM   #48 
  - I agree with you completely  Leilani   Apr-06-05 12:58 AM   #26 
  - How about not playing the blame...  lala_rawraw   Apr-06-05 01:59 AM   #32 
  - The problem is not that the media didn't cover Conyers...  Q   Apr-06-05 08:25 AM   #53 
  - This is not correct  lala_rawraw   Apr-06-05 10:57 AM   #63 
  - Who stopped kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama from talking about this on TV?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:13 PM   #90 
  - BULLS EYE.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:07 PM   #86 
  - Who is stopping us from GIVING the facts ourselves...  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:47 PM   #75 
  - One possible explanation...  8_year_nightmare   Apr-06-05 02:03 AM   #33 
  - That's some scary shit right there  oxbow   Apr-06-05 02:50 AM   #37 
  - Liberty Lobby...  lala_rawraw   Apr-06-05 02:54 AM   #38 
  - No conspiracy accusations here. I believe the truth is uglier  8_year_nightmare   Apr-06-05 05:42 PM   #109 
     - That leaves  lala_rawraw   Apr-06-05 07:51 PM   #123 
        - Something tells me you've seen "JFKII"  8_year_nightmare   Apr-06-05 11:37 PM   #143 
           - JFKII?  lala_rawraw   Apr-07-05 03:32 AM   #144 
              - Check your IM ... n/t  lala_rawraw   Apr-07-05 05:32 AM   #146 
  - One more thing...  lala_rawraw   Apr-06-05 03:03 AM   #39 
     - Ha! G'night lala, Im in the same time zone as you and sleepy too.  oxbow   Apr-06-05 03:12 AM   #40 
  - After 2006  PowerToThePeople   Apr-06-05 02:09 AM   #34 
  - No need for tin-foil hats- We can stick to plain, honest, blunt facts.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:24 PM   #92 
  - Just tapping this thread to say 'right on' Dr., right on. -n/t  Al-CIAda   Apr-06-05 02:49 AM   #36 
  - how do they get on TV to do that?  leftofthedial   Apr-06-05 03:25 AM   #41 
  - Pick up the phone & say "Hi Wolf, Hillary Clinton Speaking..."  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:50 PM   #76 
  - how do they get on TV to do that?  leftofthedial   Apr-06-05 03:25 AM   #42 
  - Why do you think big media would cover Kerry, Hillary, Dean, Obama on  w4rma   Apr-06-05 05:57 AM   #44 
  - Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:52 PM   #77 
  - gop=media. media is independent of gop  seabeyond   Apr-06-05 07:05 AM   #45 
  - Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:53 PM   #79 
  - Not true - look at how they played the Pope tributes  karynnj   Apr-06-05 07:38 AM   #47 
  - Very well said  moggie12   Apr-06-05 08:26 AM   #54 
  - I see- so we give up then?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:43 PM   #96 
  - Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:55 PM   #80 
     - You are saying one thing, I'm making a different point  karynnj   Apr-06-05 07:55 PM   #124 
        - I have nothing to disagree with in that post.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 10:04 PM   #139 
           - Kerry did talk about SS in very clear terms and called Bush on it  karynnj   Apr-07-05 11:04 AM   #150 
              - Nothing that makes a "hot" headline though.  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 06:20 PM   #160 
                 - I agree to disagree  karynnj   Apr-08-05 09:03 AM   #170 
  - Ah...the refreshing truth...  Q   Apr-06-05 08:14 AM   #51 
  - Wrong  MollyStark   Apr-06-05 08:21 AM   #52 
  - WRONG. I've never once heard any DEM call Bush a "liar."  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:58 PM   #81 
     - FWIW, I recall Edwards doing just that.  Lerkfish   Apr-06-05 06:55 PM   #112 
        - He should have said it 100 times- and got 100 other DEMS to say it too.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 07:05 PM   #114 
  - so do you prefer bipartisanship to govt shutdowns?  tinanator   Apr-06-05 08:32 AM   #55 
  - I cant blame Wolf Blitzer for what Kerry or Obama won't say.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:59 PM   #82 
     - oh heck no, and dont blame Wolf for his chosen profession  tinanator   Apr-08-05 09:35 AM   #175 
  - I agree with you to a certain extent  MadHound   Apr-06-05 08:36 AM   #56 
  - Many Dems will continue to blame the media...  Q   Apr-06-05 08:47 AM   #57 
  - Things get real simple when you are through making excuses!!!  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:09 PM   #88 
  - Agree. Our Democrats must swallow differences and stand together so  KoKo01   Apr-08-05 09:20 AM   #173 
  - AMEN! If you read Banana Republican and other books about  spunky   Apr-06-05 09:19 AM   #59 
  - The sooner we realize the lines are drawn by CLASS, not party...  rucky   Apr-06-05 09:29 AM   #60 
  - Dean does a pretty good job but Jon Stewart beats them all......  LibertyorDeath   Apr-06-05 09:32 AM   #61 
  - You're out of touch!!  The Gigmeister   Apr-06-05 09:42 AM   #62 
  - Who is stopping kerry, Dean, Hilary & Obama from talking about this?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:00 PM   #83 
  - Go ahead, freak out. Unless, you've something better to do.  Festivito   Apr-06-05 11:32 AM   #64 
  - We don't know if the effect would be marginal or great.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:02 PM   #84 
     - Suggesting the 4pm cable to fight the 6pm news.  Festivito   Apr-06-05 02:50 PM   #97 
        - I never ever suggested leaving the media alone. I suggest CONFRONTATION.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:54 PM   #99 
  - YES!  Dave Sund   Apr-06-05 11:48 AM   #65 
  - Just simply not true  Tactical Progressive   Apr-06-05 01:30 PM   #69 
     - Yes- the media is indeed Pro-Republican, no doubt. Still...  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:06 PM   #85 
  - Sorry, Doc, but you're crazy if you think they can just "get on tv" any  blm   Apr-06-05 12:54 PM   #66 
  - This is EXACTLY the Problem. You can't just "go on TV".  NAO   Apr-06-05 01:32 PM   #70 
  - Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:08 PM   #87 
     - I think agents have to book appearances on shows  NAO   Apr-06-05 02:36 PM   #93 
        - no problem-They can alternate appearances then.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:41 PM   #95 
  - Which Cable news shows have refused to interview Kerry, Obama or Hillary?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 01:40 PM   #71 
     - You think they can TELL a program they want an interview?  blm   Apr-06-05 02:38 PM   #94 
        - If true, Kerry never mentioned it. His fault.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 02:52 PM   #98 
        - I agree. Media has to be called on it and it should be done en masse. ALL  blm   Apr-06-05 03:00 PM   #100 
           - I'm glad you are trying to see where I'm coming from.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 03:22 PM   #102 
        - This straw man won't do the trick  John_H   Apr-08-05 08:12 AM   #169 
  - its not a media blaming event: its the document of ORCHESTRATION OF DECEIT  chomskysright   Apr-06-05 01:08 PM   #67 
  - I get your beef  Generator   Apr-06-05 03:06 PM   #101 
  - You have to follow up, maintain unity and repeat, repeat repeat.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 03:26 PM   #104 
  - You beat me to it: The Dean Scream as a Silencer  NAO   Apr-06-05 03:50 PM   #105 
     - The media did not grant Kerry interviews? Can you prove that? Which show?  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 05:00 PM   #106 
        - The Repubs yelled & screamed for years  Leilani   Apr-06-05 05:28 PM   #107 
        - You are right- and Wolf Blitzer & Brit Hume cant stop them either.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 05:31 PM   #108 
        - Not an explicit denial; Cynthia McKinney asked "What/When did Bush Know?"  NAO   Apr-06-05 07:27 PM   #117 
           - As a Georgia boy, I love her. Problem is, she is like Boxer or Conyers.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 07:31 PM   #119 
  - What on earth are you talking about?  Tactical Progressive   Apr-06-05 05:52 PM   #110 
  - Whatever it is that DUers say the media is refusing to report.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 06:21 PM   #111 
     - What other excuses can the Dem faithful come up with...  Q   Apr-06-05 07:04 PM   #113 
        - I am a proud member of the DEM Faithful.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 07:09 PM   #115 
           - My version of "how we can make it happen" is in post #125  NAO   Apr-06-05 08:08 PM   #127 
           - But you're faithful to the Democratic Party...  Q   Apr-06-05 08:32 PM   #129 
              - You have crystalized my thoughts once again.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 09:52 PM   #135 
  - Very true...  cquik18   Apr-06-05 07:11 PM   #116 
  - Because moderates & swing-voters don't listen to Air America.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 07:28 PM   #118 
  - Because the sleepwalking masses believe, and vote, based on MSM  NAO   Apr-06-05 07:37 PM   #120 
  - I do believe I heard on the radio yesterday...  cquik18   Apr-06-05 07:37 PM   #121 
  - Another good source for unbiased news is PBS...  cquik18   Apr-06-05 07:46 PM   #122 
  - What Needs to be Done: Pour Resources into an Aggressive Media Strategy  NAO   Apr-06-05 08:00 PM   #125 
  - Hmmm...That's a GOOD Plan!  cquik18   Apr-06-05 08:12 PM   #128 
  - I was thinking along the lines of a petition as well  NAO   Apr-07-05 10:40 AM   #149 
  - I love it.  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 09:54 PM   #136 
  - Has anyone noticed....  cquik18   Apr-06-05 08:03 PM   #126 
  - Just found out...  cquik18   Apr-06-05 08:48 PM   #132 
  - What's stopping them?  LittleClarkie   Apr-06-05 08:33 PM   #130 
  - Yes, I want them to buy 30sec spots unrelated to any candidate or campaign  NAO   Apr-06-05 08:47 PM   #131 
  - Who is refusing to interview Kerry, Hillary, Obama or Dean???  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 09:51 PM   #134 
     - Send?  LittleClarkie   Apr-06-05 10:01 PM   #138 
     - "Hi, Wolf? Hillary Clinton speaking..."  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 10:10 PM   #141 
     - The answer to your question is: ALL of them are being refused.  blm   Apr-06-05 10:08 PM   #140 
        - "Sure Wolf- we will talk about whatever you want..."  Dr Fate   Apr-06-05 10:13 PM   #142 
           - After reading responses to this thread...  Q   Apr-07-05 04:13 AM   #145 
           - Wrong, Q. We want to wake Dems up to the fact the media is now under  blm   Apr-07-05 09:18 AM   #147 
              - I didn't point you or 'they' out in particular...  Q   Apr-07-05 11:56 AM   #153 
              - Why havent they realized it- like 3 years ago? Are they asleep?  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 05:39 PM   #157 
           - There is NO GIVEUP. It is the media that must be attacked.  blm   Apr-07-05 09:25 AM   #148 
              - Er- we already ARE labeled bitter partisans.  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 05:36 PM   #156 
  - The Radical RW blamed the media for 30 years before it had any effect...  ClassWarrior   Apr-07-05 11:06 AM   #151 
  - Never did and glad to see your post.  Tinoire   Apr-07-05 11:37 AM   #152 
  - "But DEMS are fighting- didn't you read that letter on the internet?  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 06:01 PM   #159 
     - Stop it. You're killing me!  Tinoire   Apr-07-05 06:33 PM   #161 
  - EXACTLY!!!  im10ashus   Apr-07-05 12:16 PM   #154 
  - Your assertion is silly!  Vinnie From Indy   Apr-07-05 12:27 PM   #155 
  - Obviously you did not read anything I wrote.  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 05:47 PM   #158 
     - Hey Doc....  Catchawave   Apr-07-05 06:53 PM   #162 
     - DUers keep saying over & over that the media wont cover certain stories.  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 10:21 PM   #166 
     - The issue is not as B/W as you indicate  Vinnie From Indy   Apr-08-05 09:32 AM   #174 
  - They need to start making the DAMN BOLD STATEMENTS AGAIN  WLKjr   Apr-07-05 06:59 PM   #163 
  - Blaming the Dem leadership does NOT cut it anymore.  LoZoccolo   Apr-07-05 07:10 PM   #164 
  - I cant blame CNN or FOX for what many DEMS refuse to say.  Dr Fate   Apr-07-05 10:18 PM   #165 
     - You're right. Thanks for this thread...nominated. (nt)  goodboy   Apr-08-05 09:15 AM   #172 
  - I agree. It's an excuse they hide behind. Just like voting unethically  leesa   Apr-07-05 10:56 PM   #167 
  - The fact, the bottom line, the way it is, the sad truth:  John_H   Apr-08-05 08:03 AM   #168 
  - I get attacked all the time for asking where our leadership is, yesterday  goodboy   Apr-08-05 09:13 AM   #171 

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