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58. Brier Patch moment "No..dont leave the party!" (giggles)
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  -Centrist Democrats Warn Liberals rainy  Apr-04-05 03:02 PM   #0 
  - DLC = Democratic Losership Council  Larkspur   Apr-04-05 03:05 PM   #1 
  - How many non-DLC elections...  Writer   Apr-04-05 03:43 PM   #10 
     - they never seem to answer that question  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 04:44 PM   #20 
     - I cannot tell you  Writer   Apr-04-05 04:54 PM   #24 
        - You are using the last 20 years (the Republican revolution) as evidence?  U4ikLefty   Apr-06-05 03:04 AM   #233 
           - Universal health care and the assault weapons ban did that.  LoZoccolo   Apr-07-05 05:19 PM   #255 
     - The only elections the DLC won were Bill Clinton's and that was largely  Larkspur   Apr-04-05 05:19 PM   #29 
     - I politely disagree...  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:35 PM   #34 
     - True, NAFTA (1993) was more rightwing corporatist than centrist.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:27 PM   #99 
     - AAARRRGGHHH!!!! NOT 'universal health care' !!!!!!!  eridani   Apr-06-05 02:33 AM   #230 
     - You're right  Doctor Panacea   Apr-04-05 11:07 PM   #127 
     - If the DLC model was so appealing, why was the 2000 election even close?  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 05:23 PM   #30 
     - Because Bush...  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:24 PM   #32 
        - Or possibly because Clinton  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 05:27 PM   #33 
           - or possibly because Clinton had been ravaged by the GOP and media?  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 05:36 PM   #35 
           - Nice excuse, but it doesn't hold  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 05:44 PM   #38 
           - No. You are not correct.  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:56 PM   #40 
           - Yes, I am.  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 06:04 PM   #45 
           - Sandpiper, what I'M saying is...  Writer   Apr-04-05 06:12 PM   #47 
           - The DLC are a disaster, and I politely say you  saracat   Apr-05-05 04:52 AM   #152 
              - then I politely say to you...  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 03:26 PM   #186 
           - There's even evidence of your argument today...  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:39 PM   #110 
           - Clinton the Man was popular. Clinton the DLCer? Maybe less so.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:37 PM   #109 
           - yeah, and Bush won despite low approvals  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 05:59 PM   #43 
           - Hmmm. Please see my post upthread about Clinton's approval rating.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:32 PM   #104 
              - hmmm... please see my post #43...  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 03:21 PM   #170 
                 - I'm sensing a media connection between the two.  Zhade   Apr-05-05 06:39 PM   #206 
                    - exactly!  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 06:50 PM   #208 
                       - Worth considering. But in that vein, consider this also...  Zhade   Apr-05-05 07:53 PM   #209 
                          - that may be true, but...  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 08:22 PM   #212 
                             - I fully agree with your last sentence.  Zhade   Apr-05-05 08:30 PM   #215 
                                - all it takes...  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 08:34 PM   #217 
                                   - Now now, let's not do these indirect sideswipe attacks.  Zhade   Apr-05-05 08:40 PM   #219 
                                      - well...  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 08:55 PM   #224 
                                         - Ah, my mistake for concluding you meant Q.  Zhade   Apr-06-05 05:19 PM   #252 
           - Clinton was an excellent politician...  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:39 PM   #36 
              - Kerry is trying to be the next Adlai Stevenson  Larkspur   Apr-05-05 05:39 AM   #162 
     - Well, 1992, since it was Clinton who made the DLC and not vice versa.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:22 PM   #97 
     - The Dems lost power under the DLC.  Dark   Apr-05-05 04:43 PM   #199 
        - they lost it while not under the DLC, too  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 06:02 PM   #203 
  - Or how about the party recapture the progressive domestic policies  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 03:08 PM   #2 
  - often repeated, never proven  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 04:27 PM   #16 
  - Here are the facts  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 05:13 PM   #28 
  - but you've not shown the DLC was the CAUSE of it  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 05:41 PM   #37 
  - And YOU  Debs   Apr-04-05 10:09 PM   #89 
     - I haven't made that assertion  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 10:18 PM   #94 
        - I run from nothing  Debs   Apr-05-05 03:45 PM   #189 
           - the assertion wan't made by me  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 04:02 PM   #195 
              - Cough up these so called successes  Debs   Apr-05-05 08:14 PM   #210 
                 - I never said I couldn't claim Clinton  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 08:43 PM   #220 
                    - Oh but you DID  Debs   Apr-05-05 08:58 PM   #225 
                       - oh but I haven't  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 09:04 PM   #226 
                          - Thats what I did  Debs   Apr-06-05 05:38 AM   #239 
                             - no you didn't  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 03:15 PM   #246 
  - Sandpiper!  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:59 PM   #42 
  - You decry simplism, and yet...  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 06:10 PM   #46 
     - Oh?  Writer   Apr-04-05 06:14 PM   #48 
        - So, no democrat was ever elected President prior to the DLC?  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 07:10 PM   #52 
           - Here's a better question:  Writer   Apr-04-05 07:48 PM   #60 
  - People forget about Perot - Clinton did NOT win the majority of the votes!  TankLV   Apr-04-05 11:37 PM   #136 
     - there was no Perot factor in Clinton's victory. Political urban legend.  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 03:28 PM   #187 
  - How is that BS?  knight_of_the_star   Apr-04-05 06:38 PM   #49 
     - But the alternative hasn't worked AT ALL!  Writer   Apr-04-05 07:03 PM   #51 
     - So, the New Deal Coalition was a failure?  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 07:15 PM   #53 
        - I don't agree, but then again...  Writer   Apr-04-05 07:53 PM   #64 
        - the New Deal Coalition was made up of centrists  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 09:51 PM   #80 
           - The New Deal Coalition was not made up of centrists  Sandpiper   Apr-04-05 10:03 PM   #86 
           - Actually, it was  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 10:16 PM   #92 
           - Even if that were true (which I cannot concede without further research)..  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:44 PM   #116 
              - on the contrary  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:32 AM   #157 
                 - And again, the New Deal itself was not centrist.  Zhade   Apr-05-05 06:29 PM   #204 
                    - no it wasn't. It was borrowed from the Socialist party platform.  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 08:30 PM   #214 
                       - As I said, I have zero problem with moderates voting for the New Deal.  Zhade   Apr-05-05 08:34 PM   #218 
                          - well, the problem is what we perceive as conservative policies  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 08:49 PM   #222 
                             - Some of what you list as policies, aren't.  Zhade   Apr-06-05 05:06 PM   #251 
                                - ok, to be technical  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 06:06 PM   #253 
                                   - Say, since we've had a reasonable discussion...  Zhade   Apr-07-05 04:49 PM   #254 
     - it's BS because you have not tied it to the DLC  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 09:49 PM   #77 
  - Right. You just keep telling yourself that...  LandOLincoln   Apr-04-05 09:50 PM   #78 
     - That is because we TOLD THEM to vote on national security  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 10:55 PM   #123 
        - Well, since you lot insist on equating Kerry's military experience  LandOLincoln   Apr-04-05 11:10 PM   #129 
        - ches? hmmm....  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:33 AM   #158 
        - "We told them to vote on national security."  LandOLincoln   Apr-04-05 11:13 PM   #131 
  - Washington Times, nuff said. If Howard Dean picked up a cup of coffee  DemItAllAnyway   Apr-04-05 03:08 PM   #3 
  - The base is somewhere between these two  LittleClarkie   Apr-04-05 03:09 PM   #4 
  - In short........  ClintonTyree   Apr-04-05 03:09 PM   #5 
  - I'm with ya! n/t  Amy6627   Apr-04-05 03:23 PM   #8 
  - Yeah Dive  Debs   Apr-04-05 10:16 PM   #91 
     - A most excellent point.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:47 PM   #117 
  - The base is centrist  Moderate Dem   Apr-04-05 03:18 PM   #6 
  - The energy, Ideals, and Ideas are on the left  Debs   Apr-04-05 10:22 PM   #96 
  - I very much agree.  Writer   Apr-04-05 10:49 PM   #119 
     - Your post presupposes the DLC is centrist  Debs   Apr-05-05 03:51 PM   #191 
        - Research the names of the Dems who supported NAFTA  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 04:47 PM   #200 
           - We are in agreement here  Debs   Apr-05-05 08:17 PM   #211 
  - Yeah. Sure it is.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:48 PM   #118 
  - There was a time when Republicans tried to move to the center  IronLionZion   Apr-04-05 03:21 PM   #7 
  - IronLionZion  Writer   Apr-04-05 03:46 PM   #11 
     - Before Reagan  IronLionZion   Apr-04-05 07:55 PM   #65 
  - They are headed in the wrong direction,  NYC   Apr-04-05 03:25 PM   #9 
  - Yup. I'm content to stand back and watch that bunch head  Skidmore   Apr-04-05 03:46 PM   #12 
  - I don't understand why these arguments always seem to be about "winning"  RaulGroom   Apr-04-05 03:59 PM   #13 
  - They're not saying that, IMO...  Moderate Dem   Apr-04-05 04:20 PM   #14 
  - I would be interested in learning who you consider to be  Skidmore   Apr-04-05 04:49 PM   #23 
  - My Voice Being Heard?  RaulGroom   Apr-04-05 08:31 PM   #68 
  - "extreme left wing of the party". Prove it.  Zhade   Apr-04-05 10:52 PM   #120 
  - Ya got that right. It's time they fought FOR my vote.  TankLV   Apr-04-05 11:50 PM   #141 
  - Memo to DLC-  Old and In the Way   Apr-04-05 04:23 PM   #15 
  - They ARE focusing on their opposition.  AntiCoup2K4   Apr-04-05 04:30 PM   #18 
  - Say it loud my friend!  JNelson6563   Apr-04-05 04:41 PM   #19 
  - I have come to that conclusion as well.  me b zola   Apr-04-05 04:47 PM   #21 
  - Yes - beware of the repuke MOLES - especially newbies with low post counts  TankLV   Apr-04-05 11:53 PM   #143 
  - Most Assuredly The Best Answer Here!  ChiciB1   Apr-04-05 07:44 PM   #59 
  - Voie against all DLC candidates in the primaries.  Albert Einstein   Apr-04-05 04:30 PM   #17 
  - I believe this is a rehash of a previous article.. but now that we're ...  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 04:48 PM   #22 
  - This attitude is visceral and not based on logic...  Writer   Apr-04-05 04:58 PM   #25 
  - you are correct  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 05:08 PM   #26 
     - I really DO understand why this canard exists, though...  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:24 PM   #31 
        - Writer...or Propagandist?  Q   Apr-04-05 07:50 PM   #61 
           - Love it!  Writer   Apr-04-05 09:13 PM   #73 
              - Clinton DID NOT propose universal health care, dammit!  eridani   Apr-06-05 02:50 AM   #231 
              - Clinton DID NOT propose universal health care, dammit!  eridani   Apr-06-05 02:50 AM   #232 
  - You're a real card. You want 'factual data' from the left...  Q   Apr-04-05 07:36 PM   #56 
  - I've made no assertions but rather asked for facts to back YOUR assertions  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 09:55 PM   #81 
     - Nafta is STILL  Debs   Apr-04-05 10:31 PM   #103 
     - you've made an inaccurate assumption  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:27 AM   #156 
        - I seem to have made an innaccurate assumption  Debs   Apr-05-05 03:57 PM   #192 
           - well, or course  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 04:10 PM   #197 
              - So what we have is  Debs   Apr-05-05 08:25 PM   #213 
                 - as has often been discussed on DU  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 05:25 AM   #236 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-06-05 05:56 AM   #242 
                       - hmm...  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 03:12 PM   #245 
     - Link for what?  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 11:04 PM   #126 
     - because it isn't common knowledge..so there must be an article...  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:04 AM   #155 
     - How about providing conrary evidence yourself  U4ikLefty   Apr-06-05 03:26 AM   #234 
        - that's not the way life works  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 05:27 AM   #237 
  - re: "cold, hard evidence"  ulysses   Apr-04-05 09:01 PM   #72 
  - no, the onus for providing that are those making the claim  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 09:55 PM   #82 
     - and the reason the DLC exists  ulysses   Apr-04-05 10:01 PM   #85 
        - the claim was: DLC lost elections in 94, 2000, 2002, 2004  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 10:04 PM   #87 
           - as I recall,  ulysses   Apr-04-05 10:08 PM   #88 
              - which is why I said "you in the general sense."  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 10:12 PM   #90 
                 - call it a habit.  ulysses   Apr-04-05 10:29 PM   #101 
                    - so... the only option is to make stuff up?  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 10:33 PM   #105 
                       - what have I made up?  ulysses   Apr-04-05 10:34 PM   #106 
                          - where have I said you've made anything up?  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 10:35 PM   #107 
                             - you're talking to me, not to "them".  ulysses   Apr-04-05 10:39 PM   #111 
                             - right. Where have I said YOU were making anything up?  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 04:50 AM   #151 
                             - Umm - the title of your POST perhaps!  TankLV   Apr-05-05 12:00 AM   #146 
                                - right. My exact words, "THE only option is to make stuff up"  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:01 AM   #154 
  - I'll do that as soon  Debs   Apr-04-05 10:27 PM   #100 
  - I've never made that assertion  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:34 AM   #159 
     - I never run away from anything  Debs   Apr-05-05 03:59 PM   #193 
        - well PROVE it Debs!  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 04:00 PM   #194 
           - You have this thing about running away  Debs   Apr-05-05 08:32 PM   #216 
              - HERE'S A FAVOR DEBS!!!  U4ikLefty   Apr-06-05 03:38 AM   #235 
              - too bad it's already been covered  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 05:45 AM   #241 
              - I've never said you were running away from me  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 05:30 AM   #238 
                 - IF you havent done either, and dont plan too  Debs   Apr-06-05 06:12 AM   #243 
                    - I've never denied DLC losses  wyldwolf   Apr-06-05 03:10 PM   #244 
  - We have till we're blue in the face, but you all choose to ignore the  TankLV   Apr-04-05 11:56 PM   #144 
     - no you haven't  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 05:36 AM   #161 
        - Only because you refuse to see it.  TankLV   Apr-05-05 03:14 PM   #167 
           - ok, let's assume there are links in this thread that prove it  wyldwolf   Apr-05-05 03:15 PM   #168 
  - And what about 1998!  Writer   Apr-04-05 05:10 PM   #27 
  - They lost because people felt what they did was petty  knight_of_the_star   Apr-04-05 06:41 PM   #50 
  - Dems a dem....  DaDeacon   Apr-04-05 05:50 PM   #39 
  - Absolutely beautiful!!!!  Moderate Dem   Apr-04-05 05:58 PM   #41 
  - Two thumbs up!  Writer   Apr-04-05 06:00 PM   #44 
  - Nicely written but one word was missing in your conclusion:  sellitman   Apr-04-05 07:50 PM   #62 
  - You may be right however,  DaDeacon   Apr-05-05 06:00 PM   #202 
  - Every poll I have ever seen says  Debs   Apr-04-05 10:40 PM   #112 
     - Many Americans also say...  Writer   Apr-04-05 10:53 PM   #121 
        - You have a point, but  Debs   Apr-05-05 04:05 PM   #196 
  - DLC: "The Republicans' favorite Democrats"  Q   Apr-04-05 07:15 PM   #54 
  - We tried thier way in '02 and '04.  Radical Activist   Apr-04-05 07:31 PM   #55 
  - I have some choice words for those centrists...  sendero   Apr-04-05 07:41 PM   #57 
  - Why don't you...  sellitman   Apr-04-05 07:51 PM   #63 
     - Oh...  sendero   Apr-04-05 08:56 PM   #71 
  - Brier Patch moment "No..dont leave the party!" (giggles)  LimpingLib   Apr-04-05 07:43 PM   #58 
  - Repub Lites  Disturbed   Apr-04-05 08:22 PM   #66 
  - Just the fact that the DLC had to dispatch a new Intern to DU today.....  AntiCoup2K4   Apr-04-05 08:30 PM   #67 
  - You referring to me?  Writer   Apr-04-05 09:28 PM   #74 
  - Rest assured  DerekG   Apr-04-05 09:51 PM   #79 
  - Vichy Democrats, eh?  Writer   Apr-04-05 09:59 PM   #84 
  - You must be a Master Lurker  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 10:17 PM   #93 
  - For MollyStark and Q:  Writer   Apr-04-05 10:37 PM   #108 
     - You brought up the 60s...  Q   Apr-04-05 11:13 PM   #132 
        - I'm very sorry.  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:40 PM   #137 
           - You love to inject words into a conversation...  Q   Apr-05-05 09:00 AM   #163 
           - All you do is lecture, lecture, lecture.  Writer   Apr-05-05 04:22 PM   #198 
              - Actually...it's not a matter of perspective...  Q   Apr-05-05 05:25 PM   #201 
           - I enjoy your wit and defiance but,  Spinoza   Apr-06-05 03:40 PM   #249 
  - Bush will tell you there's 'no proof' that he lied this nation into war...  Q   Apr-04-05 10:20 PM   #95 
  - Im with ya'... n/t  nickshepDEM   Apr-04-05 10:42 PM   #114 
  - You crack me up.  Spinoza   Apr-06-05 03:34 PM   #248 
  - bwahahahahahaha  wyldwolf   Apr-04-05 09:56 PM   #83 
  - Yes - we have all noticed this.  TankLV   Apr-05-05 12:07 AM   #148 
  - Is there really a difference?  AntiCoup2K4   Apr-05-05 10:25 AM   #166 
  - No kidding. Fucking, transparently pathetic. n/t  Tinoire   Apr-06-05 12:46 AM   #228 
  - Centrism isn't about the center; it's about playing to the marketing that  Nikki Stone 1   Apr-04-05 08:35 PM   #69 
  - Dean opposes an illegal war based on "sexed up"  brindis_desala   Apr-04-05 08:46 PM   #70 
  - Translation: "don't piss off our Corporate Paymasters  kenzee13   Apr-04-05 09:30 PM   #75 
  - "Recapture the muscular progressive internationalism"?  DerekG   Apr-04-05 09:37 PM   #76 
  - Screw OFF! We've tried it your way. It's a failure.  leesa   Apr-04-05 10:22 PM   #98 
  - I can't believe no one has brought this up:  susanna   Apr-04-05 10:29 PM   #102 
  - If we have a losing Dem candidate...  Writer   Apr-04-05 10:41 PM   #113 
     - "You" say that many would have just stayed home.  susanna   Apr-04-05 11:00 PM   #124 
     - Remember Sistah Souljah?  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:07 PM   #128 
        - sure - Clinton's "fuck the blacks" moment.  ulysses   Apr-04-05 11:34 PM   #135 
     - F* the percentages --  MsMagnificent   Apr-06-05 03:43 PM   #250 
  - lookie four years and no attacks  seabeyond   Apr-04-05 10:43 PM   #115 
  - Bah, humbug!  Doctor Panacea   Apr-04-05 10:54 PM   #122 
  - Not... not... narcissism!  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:03 PM   #125 
     - no, no. the progressives are the "activist elites".  ulysses   Apr-04-05 11:12 PM   #130 
        - Hmmm...  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:24 PM   #133 
           - of course they are!  ulysses   Apr-04-05 11:27 PM   #134 
              - I know we disagree...  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:42 PM   #138 
                 - it's a gift.  ulysses   Apr-04-05 11:45 PM   #139 
                    - LOL!  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:48 PM   #140 
                    - I'll be here all week. Try the lobster bisque.  ulysses   Apr-04-05 11:52 PM   #142 
                       - Gosh, I hope not until the summer.  Writer   Apr-04-05 11:57 PM   #145 
                          - heh - you'll be a fun one.  ulysses   Apr-05-05 12:05 AM   #147 
                    - But just "gifted" - hardly "intelligent".  TankLV   Apr-05-05 12:16 AM   #149 
  - Cave and be wimps.  SarahBelle   Apr-05-05 04:24 AM   #150 
  - Activists Elites  RogueTrooper   Apr-05-05 04:57 AM   #153 
  - The DLC is giving more bad advise on SS to the Dems  GetTheRightVote   Apr-05-05 05:35 AM   #160 
  - Gee, after snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, not once but twice,  MadHound   Apr-05-05 09:50 AM   #164 
  - Find me a progressive Democrat who does not want to see Bin Laden  mtnester   Apr-05-05 10:21 AM   #165 
  - Should read : RIGHT WING CORPORATISTS WARN CENTRISTS"  Capn Sunshine   Apr-05-05 03:19 PM   #169 
  - Centrist Democrats warn liberals  ckramer   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #171 
  - I think we have about 6 threads on this now?  AntiCoup2K4   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #172 
  - screw the DLC!  acmejack   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #173 
  - It might be true.  Deep13   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #174 
  - Oh, yeah, right  wryter2000   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #175 
  - Fuck the DLC  arissa   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #176 
  - "They're quickly becoming irrelevant"  Deep13   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #180 
  - The DLC Has Already Changed The Party  Me.   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #177 
  - Same old same old  endarkenment   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #178 
  - It should Read "RIGHT WING CORPORATISTS WARN CENTRISTS"  Capn Sunshine   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #179 
  - Im WARNING YOU "Drill in the oceans , bomb the Arabs,get the oil"  LimpingLib   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #181 
  - Well for the record  thefloyd   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #182 
  - The only liberalism that can make a difference  Clark Bayh 2008   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #183 
  - Which is exactly why the DLC needs to die  AntiCoup2K4   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #185 
  - What the hell is 'progressive internationalism' supposed to mean?  Q   Apr-05-05 09:54 PM   #227 
  - The DLC is a defacto propaganda arm of Nixonian Republicanism --  Old Crusoe   Apr-05-05 03:22 PM   #184 
  - Why would any sane, compassionate human want to sell out  FubarFly   Apr-05-05 03:42 PM   #188 
  - Fear not Democrats, the truth will set America free from the GOP.  Democrats_win   Apr-05-05 03:49 PM   #190 
  - Here comes the DLC, or Dead Man Walking.  Gyre   Apr-05-05 06:37 PM   #205 
  - We Need A Half-Way House For Centrists...  WillyT   Apr-05-05 06:48 PM   #207 
  - I would personally like to warn the DLC  Kipepeo   Apr-05-05 08:45 PM   #221 
  - I think it's time to dust off JFK's "Pax Americana" speech.  leanin_green   Apr-05-05 08:54 PM   #223 
  - Jeez. Somebody please, gift wrap these b*stards  Tinoire   Apr-06-05 12:57 AM   #229 
  - I stopped reading when I saw that the DLC was being touted as "centrist"  w4rma   Apr-06-05 05:39 AM   #240 
  - DU Front page today is an opinion piece on this- They Want War  justicebuilder   Apr-06-05 03:15 PM   #247 
  - Chicken  entanglement   Apr-07-05 11:56 PM   #256 
 

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