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25. Were you around for the realpolitik of the '60s protests?
If not, then it explains your complaint. I recognize this for what it is, a broadbase of ideologies gathering once again around the biggest rallying point for the left, stopping a war. Yes, you're going to have people wanting to address Palestinian issues(which are actually the root cause of much of our problems in the ME, and should be addressed), yes you're going to have pot and other issue oriented progressives piggybacking on. That's OK! It gives us support, and puts numbers on the street. Call it street compromise.

Burning flags, vandalism, well, that's part of the turf too. Outrage is going to be expressed in a multitude of fairly harmless ways. Does it look bad? Yes, and I don't condone it. But I'm a realist and realize that humans aren't all up to Ghandi's and MLK's level. I draw the line at violence, but again, knowing human nature, a riot is not out of the question. But also remember, the forces arrayed against the anti-war movement aren't above using plants and agent provocateurs. They did in the past(read up on the Congressional inquiry into the activities of the CIA, FBI, and NSA during the sixties), and they are going to do it again. So the paint wielding anachist you see at the anti-war rally actually might be a member of the alphabet agency.

All in all, given what is going on, I don't think that what you are speaking of is of any great consequence. Things will have to get racheted quite a bit before you should be concerned. If you are in a protest and see somebody about to do something stupid, call them on it. But if they are just expressing their opinion, whatever that might be, let them go.
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  -Why I don't like our liberal protests. dhinojosa  Mar-23-05 05:51 PM   #0 
  - Because they are ineffectual?  BlueEyedSon   Mar-23-05 05:53 PM   #1 
  - All true. There's a reason why Bush has only controlled crowds.  Inland   Mar-23-05 05:55 PM   #2 
  - You forgot the nekkid PETA people  LittleClarkie   Mar-23-05 05:55 PM   #3 
  - A problem I notice  Dave Reynolds   Mar-23-05 05:55 PM   #4 
  - If bald eagles aren't in the ANWR....  dhinojosa   Mar-23-05 06:11 PM   #7 
  - I thought  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-24-05 10:18 AM   #40 
  - Here is the official list by the way  dhinojosa   Mar-23-05 06:17 PM   #8 
  - Well ANWR is hardly the home of the bald eagle  Toots   Mar-24-05 10:09 AM   #39 
     - If only the polar bear were our national animal.....  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 05:36 PM   #45 
  - No trees and no mountains, no eagles in ANWR?  d_b   Mar-23-05 10:36 PM   #26 
  - You've already been proven wrong  sandnsea   Mar-23-05 10:51 PM   #30 
  - I believe protests and demonstrations are effective and  FtWayneBlue   Mar-23-05 06:05 PM   #5 
  - I'd agree that protests should be more focused and professional...  tubbacheez   Mar-23-05 06:09 PM   #6 
  - i'd have to agree with all those points,  yorgatron   Mar-23-05 06:17 PM   #9 
     - Good idea.  tubbacheez   Mar-23-05 06:24 PM   #11 
  - They are acts of desperation that people resort to when they are  Jacobin   Mar-23-05 06:20 PM   #10 
  - If MLK gotten violent and did things I "don't approve of"  dhinojosa   Mar-23-05 06:31 PM   #13 
     - His protests were peaceful and modeled after Ghandi  Jacobin   Mar-23-05 06:51 PM   #14 
     - I think the coffin theme has been highly effective...  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 09:54 AM   #37 
     - You don't know? Of course he (MLK) did NOT get violent.  ElectroPrincess   Mar-23-05 07:05 PM   #17 
  - I agree. I'm not enjoying the  BullGooseLoony   Mar-23-05 06:25 PM   #12 
  - Well, that's because IMO you're "corporate" Dem supporter a la old DLC  ElectroPrincess   Mar-23-05 07:01 PM   #16 
     - Yeah, that's me.  BullGooseLoony   Mar-23-05 07:14 PM   #18 
  - Protest is as American as the damn flag!  Generic Other   Mar-23-05 06:56 PM   #15 
  - the protests aren't the problem, the media coverage is  wyldwolf   Mar-23-05 08:14 PM   #19 
  - Enjoying your freedoms????  bvar22   Mar-23-05 08:20 PM   #20 
  - In NO, we were very focused. Bring home the troops.  tsuki   Mar-23-05 08:24 PM   #21 
  - It is really easy....  bvar22   Mar-23-05 08:27 PM   #22 
  - I wouldn't know....  dhinojosa   Mar-23-05 08:54 PM   #23 
  - Here...  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 12:03 PM   #41 
  - I have to agree. I was in a big protest in Chicago in 2002  Logansquare   Mar-23-05 09:02 PM   #24 
  - Were you around for the realpolitik of the '60s protests?  MadHound   Mar-23-05 09:11 PM   #25 
  - Damn those Free Palestine assholes.  d_b   Mar-23-05 10:40 PM   #27 
  - Yikes!!!  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 09:40 AM   #32 
  - imagine protest rallies called by leading Democrats  welshTerrier2   Mar-23-05 10:48 PM   #28 
  - The protest threads were the most refreshing thing on DU  senseandsensibility   Mar-23-05 10:50 PM   #29 
  - Holy Moley, no one reads!!!!! I didn't say anything was wrong ....  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 09:53 AM   #36 
  - So how does "I'm with stupid" sign pointing to cop = violence?  rman   Mar-24-05 03:59 AM   #31 
  - Well, I can't believe I need to explain this.  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 09:45 AM   #34 
     - that would be 'possible provocation of violence',  rman   Mar-25-05 04:57 AM   #47 
  - I've obviously missed some of the coverage....  Bridget Burke   Mar-24-05 09:43 AM   #33 
  - Don't worry you are not the only one who isn't reading the 1st sentence...  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 09:49 AM   #35 
  - Here...  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 12:04 PM   #42 
  - why not stay at home and watch the world blow up ?  jdots   Mar-24-05 10:08 AM   #38 
  - I've been in protests as stated but here is something else...  dhinojosa   Mar-24-05 12:05 PM   #43 
  - liberal protests?  murdoch   Mar-24-05 12:42 PM   #44 
  - Much of what you object to may be agents provacateurs  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-24-05 05:48 PM   #46 
  - Excellent point Lydia Leftcoast  ElectroPrincess   Mar-25-05 05:04 AM   #48 
  - Don't forget the Cult of Mumia - they're always fun.  BlueManDude   Mar-25-05 05:42 AM   #49 
  - SNL did a great skit back in late 2000 or early 2001...  formernaderite   Mar-25-05 08:15 AM   #50 
  - Why don't YOU organize protests...  Q   Mar-25-05 08:29 AM   #51 

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