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Response to Reply #117 |
| 118. I was just beeing cheeky :-) |
| -1st or 2nd Amendment - Which is more important to Democracy? |
Q |
Mar-16-05 08:03 AM |
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The first |
adwon |
Mar-16-05 08:09 AM |
#1 |
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No doubt. Even if the government got to a point |
spunky |
Mar-16-05 08:18 AM |
#10 |
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Washington didn't have much of a problem with it. |
Massacure |
Mar-16-05 05:34 PM |
#83 |
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1st or 2nd |
Charon |
Mar-16-05 08:11 AM |
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In what way? |
bowens43 |
Mar-16-05 08:16 AM |
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In that allows the people to stand up to the government and/or military |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 02:58 PM |
#74 |
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BEGIN to attack democracy? Begin? |
Q |
Mar-18-05 07:44 PM |
#100 |
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So how does owning a firearm going to help if.. |
humanriteswritlarge |
Mar-16-05 08:20 AM |
#11 |
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Realize the difference between policy and enforcement |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 03:16 PM |
#78 |
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That's a bull crap argument that I use on my Pro-Life Friends re: ESC Res |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-16-05 08:32 AM |
#15 |
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They use the same tactics on us. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 03:20 PM |
#79 |
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A wise man once said "The Pen is Mightier than the Sword" |
Toots |
Mar-16-05 09:02 AM |
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And a man with both is the best off. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 03:21 PM |
#80 |
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If I remember my history right |
knight_of_the_star |
Mar-18-05 05:57 PM |
#95 |
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1st for adults. 2nd for adolescents. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-05 08:13 AM |
#3 |
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cheap shot. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 02:56 PM |
#72 |
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And I'm sure you are part of a "well regulated" militia....right????? |
Toots |
Mar-19-05 07:34 AM |
#108 |
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Of course, the 1st is more important. |
bowens43 |
Mar-16-05 08:14 AM |
#4 |
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the "framers" listed them in order of how they rank them in importance |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Mar-16-05 08:16 AM |
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Where does it say they listed in order of importance? |
leftynyc |
Mar-16-05 12:21 PM |
#42 |
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Why do I have to make a choice? |
tx_dem41 |
Mar-16-05 08:16 AM |
#7 |
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Bingo. |
Zenlitened |
Mar-16-05 08:18 AM |
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That's exactly right... |
Q |
Mar-16-05 08:31 AM |
#14 |
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I agree with this post completely. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 01:37 PM |
#62 |
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Exactly. All are important. The order varies from moment to moment |
Mairead |
Mar-16-05 02:43 PM |
#70 |
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I could live without the 3rd. |
ieoeja |
Mar-18-05 04:41 PM |
#86 |
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If You Bring Up The 3rd Down In The Gun Dungeon........ |
Paladin |
Mar-18-05 07:16 PM |
#96 |
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The 1st is the most important. |
robcon |
Mar-16-05 08:17 AM |
#8 |
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Self defense is a personal decision |
jody |
Mar-16-05 08:21 AM |
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What about the rest of the Bill of Rights... |
Q |
Mar-16-05 08:32 AM |
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Sorry, my reply #18 was to your question. |
jody |
Mar-16-05 08:35 AM |
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It seems the supporters of ONLY the 2nd amendment... |
Q |
Mar-16-05 08:24 AM |
#13 |
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You seem to be asserting that supporters of RKBA are automatically |
jody |
Mar-16-05 08:33 AM |
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Why would either party even mention supporting the 2nd amendment? |
Q |
Mar-19-05 08:20 AM |
#111 |
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I support ever enumerated right in the Constitution as well as |
jody |
Mar-16-05 08:34 AM |
#18 |
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The question is and remains... |
Q |
Mar-19-05 08:24 AM |
#112 |
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The Pen Is Mightier Than The Sword....therefore the First eom |
EVDebs |
Mar-16-05 09:10 AM |
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Lots of Democracies work just fine without unrestricted RKBA |
smoogatz |
Mar-16-05 09:12 AM |
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The 1st. And the 2nd is there to protect the 1st. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 09:21 AM |
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How? |
Lone Pawn |
Mar-16-05 11:53 AM |
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So you're saying we should be able to own bazookas and artillery? |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 11:58 AM |
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Well, if the best justification for the 2nd Amendment is to fight the Army |
Lone Pawn |
Mar-16-05 12:03 PM |
#34 |
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Well, it is the best justification. |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 12:07 PM |
#36 |
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LMAO |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:14 PM |
#41 |
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I would argue that the second amendment guarantees the right |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 12:48 PM |
#49 |
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In Iraq they mostly use explosive devices, actually. |
Lone Pawn |
Mar-16-05 03:15 PM |
#77 |
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I disagree. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 03:33 PM |
#81 |
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Not that particular incident... |
solinvictus |
Mar-18-05 07:24 PM |
#97 |
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The nice thing about the Constitution is ... |
Love Bug |
Mar-16-05 09:23 AM |
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Do you actually believe that the Bill of Rights is still honored by this.. |
Q |
Mar-16-05 11:52 AM |
#30 |
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Daylight |
beevul |
Mar-16-05 09:56 AM |
#25 |
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That's one of the first things a couple of working-class Republicans |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 11:56 AM |
#32 |
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How do we get past ... |
beevul |
Mar-16-05 01:10 PM |
#59 |
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Great post. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 01:12 PM |
#61 |
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What Did "Militia" Mean When the Bill of Rights Was Adopted? |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-16-05 10:31 AM |
#26 |
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Damn, when |
forgethell |
Mar-16-05 10:31 AM |
#27 |
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Freedom of religion... |
Q |
Mar-16-05 11:45 AM |
#28 |
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Didn't |
forgethell |
Mar-16-05 11:52 AM |
#29 |
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What peaceful assemblies have been broken up? |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 01:43 PM |
#64 |
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i did |
forgethell |
Mar-16-05 01:51 PM |
#66 |
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Open your eyes. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 02:25 PM |
#67 |
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The right to arm yourself is what guarantees every other right |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 12:06 PM |
#35 |
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Well...it comes down to either... |
Q |
Mar-16-05 12:33 PM |
#46 |
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I'd say you're wrong. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 02:41 PM |
#69 |
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Free speech trumps everything ! |
_TJ_ |
Mar-16-05 12:07 PM |
#37 |
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1st is the only one that's important (out of the two). |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:08 PM |
#38 |
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Yes, 'twas a joyous occassion when that right was repealed! nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 12:11 PM |
#39 |
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That kind of a semantic trap is bullshit. |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:13 PM |
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Unfortunately, it's exactly what you're saying. |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 12:23 PM |
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eh? |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:25 PM |
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You said you'd celebrate if the 2nd Amendment was repealed. |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 12:29 PM |
#45 |
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I see you already debated that earlier in the thread. |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:35 PM |
#47 |
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Well, it's part of the basis of democracy. |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 12:38 PM |
#48 |
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Guns give them no power, other than the imaginary; |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:49 PM |
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Your first paragraph is not my argument. |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 12:58 PM |
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I do buy the argument that #1 is more important. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 01:11 PM |
#60 |
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I am saying... |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 01:46 PM |
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You're working backwards, and effectively |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 02:34 PM |
#68 |
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In the history of the US no party has successfully eliminated democracy. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 02:46 PM |
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I agree that the US is not special. |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 02:58 PM |
#73 |
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Then please laugh. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 01:03 PM |
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That was an awesome post. |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 01:08 PM |
#58 |
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Good post. |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 01:37 PM |
#63 |
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In keeping with your tinfoil hat theme |
davepc |
Mar-18-05 05:26 PM |
#94 |
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Man do you think all gun owners |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 12:52 PM |
#51 |
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Of course not. |
Goldmund |
Mar-16-05 12:53 PM |
#52 |
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Others say the same about health care and education. |
ProgressiveConn |
Mar-16-05 01:06 PM |
#57 |
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Thomas Jefferson disagrees with you |
davepc |
Mar-18-05 05:21 PM |
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I don't even OWN a gun. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Mar-16-05 01:00 PM |
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Definately the 1st... |
radar |
Mar-16-05 01:04 PM |
#56 |
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The first, without question... |
amjucsc |
Mar-16-05 02:58 PM |
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There's a reason that the 1st comes BEFORE the 2nd..... |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-16-05 03:07 PM |
#76 |
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The Bushies will allow you to keep your guns... |
Q |
Mar-16-05 04:58 PM |
#82 |
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I'll make you guys a deal |
derby378 |
Mar-18-05 03:58 PM |
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If you watch The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, in Venezuela the right |
AP |
Mar-18-05 04:03 PM |
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This whole thing is bullshit...these two amendments don't exclude each... |
Township75 |
Mar-18-05 05:03 PM |
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Your viewpoint is too reasonable. |
Spinoza |
Mar-18-05 05:08 PM |
#89 |
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If you read carefully... |
Q |
Mar-18-05 05:19 PM |
#91 |
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Maybe we'd have more success fighting for the entire Bill of Rights |
davepc |
Mar-18-05 05:22 PM |
#93 |
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I'm not sure I understand your reference... |
Q |
Mar-20-05 08:48 AM |
#113 |
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Your logic is consistently |
Dragonfly |
Mar-18-05 07:45 PM |
#101 |
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The right to bear arms |
Spinoza |
Mar-18-05 05:07 PM |
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They are both important and neither can work without the other. (nt) |
w4rma |
Mar-18-05 05:13 PM |
#90 |
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It seems that the 2nd is 'working' quite well without the first... |
Q |
Mar-18-05 07:35 PM |
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Only because you don't really see the 2nd, in action, until the government |
w4rma |
Mar-18-05 08:54 PM |
#103 |
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You're still pretending that these things are far away... |
Q |
Mar-18-05 09:36 PM |
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Folks still believe we can pull out of this, politically. And I agree. |
w4rma |
Mar-18-05 09:44 PM |
#105 |
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I disagree... |
Q |
Mar-19-05 08:13 AM |
#110 |
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Killin' is easier to comprehend |
Jim4Wes |
Mar-18-05 07:27 PM |
#98 |
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I understand your humor... |
Q |
Mar-19-05 07:59 AM |
#109 |
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The 'experiment' |
Q |
Mar-18-05 08:13 PM |
#102 |
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The first. Nothing to discuss. |
Lizzie Borden |
Mar-18-05 09:45 PM |
#106 |
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Monarchy / oligarchy is probably what we would have today... |
Q |
Mar-19-05 07:07 AM |
#107 |
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A very interesting POLL on DU about which 'issues to drop'... |
Q |
Mar-20-05 09:24 AM |
#114 |
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Bill of Rights |
Q |
Mar-20-05 09:28 AM |
#115 |
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They're ALL important to democracy! |
femme.democratique |
Mar-20-05 09:33 AM |
#116 |
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That's not in dispute... |
Q |
Mar-20-05 09:55 AM |
#117 |
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I was just beeing cheeky :-) |
femme.democratique |
Mar-20-05 01:08 PM |
#118 |
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I know... |
Q |
Mar-21-05 04:48 AM |
#119 |
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