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Tue Mar-15-05 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 129. Exactly! It depends on what you mean by conservative. |
| -Strategic question: is supporting conservative Dems a good thing? |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 07:51 AM |
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Besides Lieberman And The Two Or Three Remaining Southern Democratic |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-15-05 07:54 AM |
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No. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 07:56 AM |
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Right |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-15-05 08:01 AM |
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You really don't get it, do you? |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:06 AM |
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"yellow line and dead possums" |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-05 10:14 AM |
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If they hated blacks would we still want them on our side? |
Toots |
Mar-15-05 10:42 AM |
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They don't hate Blacks. |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-05 11:05 AM |
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But Gays & Women are expendable.... |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-15-05 12:10 PM |
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exactly! |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:15 PM |
#93 |
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You're overstating the matter. |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-05 01:15 PM |
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but is the reason we support conservative dems |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 08:16 AM |
#13 |
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You're right--- |
charlyvi |
Mar-15-05 08:22 AM |
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Like LBJ Said |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-15-05 09:06 AM |
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Yes |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-05 02:26 PM |
#125 |
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"do a better job of selling progressive dems." |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-05 07:57 AM |
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I agree completely with you. |
charlyvi |
Mar-15-05 08:20 AM |
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There thou said it. |
Deep13 |
Mar-15-05 10:04 AM |
#54 |
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EXACTLY! Half the country are followers |
podnoi |
Mar-15-05 11:07 AM |
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thank you! |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 11:40 AM |
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Russ Feingold |
wallock |
Mar-15-05 11:44 AM |
#83 |
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Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
Mar-15-05 01:51 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, we must purge all kulaks and counterrevolutionaries! |
QC |
Mar-15-05 08:04 AM |
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That sort of thinking is why we're so fucked up. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:10 AM |
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Please see post #8 for some common sense on this issue. |
QC |
Mar-15-05 08:17 AM |
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so...only your own view is common sense or reality? ...er...ok. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 08:20 AM |
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Amen, brother. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:24 AM |
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Well, my view is the only one taking account of the facts on the ground, |
QC |
Mar-15-05 08:30 AM |
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thank your for your input. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 08:45 AM |
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You couldn't be more wrong. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:49 AM |
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You better not give up your day job for that Psychic Friends Network gig. |
QC |
Mar-15-05 08:54 AM |
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But why were they seen as "excessively liberal"? |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 08:59 AM |
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And they were not particularly Liberal guys, either. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:04 AM |
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here is the problem |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 09:17 AM |
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What good did having Joe Biden do the other day? |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:20 AM |
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last time i checked |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 10:04 AM |
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I disagree. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 10:08 AM |
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bankruptcy has not been gotten rid of |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 10:20 AM |
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Understand... |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 10:27 AM |
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Like i said, |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 10:51 AM |
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"who do they employ?" |
bvar22 |
Mar-15-05 04:45 PM |
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Bingo! |
QC |
Mar-15-05 12:24 PM |
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thanks for your thoughtful post...thanks for bearing with me... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:33 PM |
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I'm sorry to have misread you. |
QC |
Mar-15-05 12:50 PM |
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no problem, my flaw is that I dont' always explain well... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:56 PM |
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My "Day Job" is political activism. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:00 AM |
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Yes, I am familiar with your work. |
QC |
Mar-15-05 09:05 AM |
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I feel that if I don't use my position to push what I think is right... |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:09 AM |
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Gore and Kerry |
wryter2000 |
Mar-15-05 01:53 PM |
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Nor do we need votes that represent democratic ideals |
lojasmo |
Mar-15-05 09:54 AM |
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Without a majority, those ideals and a buck won't even get you |
QC |
Mar-15-05 12:30 PM |
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and if the minority is sufficiently capitulating |
lojasmo |
Mar-15-05 01:28 PM |
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I'll always support the DINO in a general election, |
ktowntennesseedem |
Mar-15-05 08:12 AM |
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Yes, but in the primaries, it is hammer and tongs. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:13 AM |
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Good point; "remember who elected you." |
ktowntennesseedem |
Mar-15-05 08:20 AM |
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Am not sure "conservative" is the word to use to describe these Dems |
flpoljunkie |
Mar-15-05 08:12 AM |
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"Pigs" works, too. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:25 AM |
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According to Harry S. Truman: |
Feles Mala |
Mar-15-05 08:15 AM |
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Give 'em HELL, Harry! |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:23 AM |
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He Wasn't So Liberal As To Not Drop The Big One On Japan |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-15-05 09:18 AM |
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And I would have done the same in his shoes. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:24 AM |
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Note also... |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:28 AM |
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I Agree... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-15-05 09:30 AM |
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Hard not to be a "Hawk" when you become President during a World War! |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 09:33 AM |
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My ultra liberal mother still supports its use |
Feles Mala |
Mar-15-05 01:23 PM |
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While I love Truman |
DrGonzoLives |
Mar-15-05 10:03 AM |
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Okay. A small point |
charlyvi |
Mar-15-05 10:49 AM |
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Make an example of Lieberman |
Mend |
Mar-15-05 08:15 AM |
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Make an example of as many as possible. |
benburch |
Mar-15-05 08:23 AM |
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Yes, it is |
quaoar |
Mar-15-05 08:46 AM |
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well to be honest |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 08:49 AM |
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Interesting |
adwon |
Mar-15-05 09:07 AM |
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thanks for the very thoughtful post... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 09:28 AM |
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I'd Like You To Define Your Terms... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-15-05 09:32 AM |
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Sure, but I don't think my terms have to determine the discussion |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 09:38 AM |
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Depends on the electoral race |
adwon |
Mar-15-05 10:07 AM |
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It depends upon the definition of conservative. I will never support a |
MrsGrumpy |
Mar-15-05 09:30 AM |
#43 |
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Exactly! It depends on what you mean by conservative. |
MissMarple |
Mar-15-05 04:52 PM |
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Perhaps in their Districts but not nationally.... |
kentuck |
Mar-15-05 09:39 AM |
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Don't make good the enemy of perfect |
Can o Beans |
Mar-15-05 09:40 AM |
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thanks for your post... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 09:48 AM |
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Consider this |
Can o Beans |
Mar-15-05 09:59 AM |
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we disagree, but I respect your arguments. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 10:07 AM |
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we are not that far off |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 10:16 AM |
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with respect, I think you're being naively optimistic. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 10:34 AM |
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one, dont see how i am being optimisitic |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 10:58 AM |
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not sure you understood... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 11:44 AM |
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Guys, I am NOT saying we have to be bipartisan |
Can o Beans |
Mar-15-05 11:59 AM |
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republicans |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 11:59 AM |
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you misrepresent me... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:08 PM |
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again |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 12:18 PM |
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my bad, I explained poorly... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:29 PM |
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the DINO |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 12:42 PM |
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then we'll have to disagree, then. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:44 PM |
#105 |
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you seem to be making the assumption |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 10:13 AM |
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yes, I'm making an assumption. but I have a question for you... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 10:27 AM |
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lets deal in facts then |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 11:03 AM |
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unwittingly, you have pointed to the crux of the problem... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 11:35 AM |
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OK..pausing... |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 11:51 AM |
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ok, you didn't pause long enough... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:43 PM |
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because |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 12:57 PM |
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so, as long as you believe this... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 01:02 PM |
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huh? |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 01:16 PM |
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you believe voters are static, this is where we disagree. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 01:26 PM |
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Support them? Never. Use them for our own purposes?... |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-15-05 09:42 AM |
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"Conservative" Dems have a propensity to vote against the left |
Norquist Nemesis |
Mar-15-05 10:15 AM |
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I would like to ask a related question: |
Blue_Tires |
Mar-15-05 11:00 AM |
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Our conservative Dems are more Progressive than their... |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-15-05 11:16 AM |
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can you expand on that a little? |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 11:28 AM |
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as in say, |
Blue_Tires |
Mar-15-05 01:12 PM |
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LOL, no , I mean, expand how that relates to this discussion. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 01:30 PM |
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i guess i'm talking about political ideology |
Blue_Tires |
Mar-15-05 02:15 PM |
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I have a conservative Democrat representative: Lincoln Davis. |
antigone382 |
Mar-15-05 11:18 AM |
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It depends on where the Dem is |
StopThePendulum |
Mar-15-05 11:27 AM |
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Amen to this. |
Can o Beans |
Mar-15-05 12:04 PM |
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ok, but peril of what? |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:14 PM |
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You're misinterpreting the issue... |
Can o Beans |
Mar-15-05 12:33 PM |
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possibly, but STRATEGICALLY, I question its efficacy longterm. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:37 PM |
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You can't change a culture (or subculture) overnight |
Can o Beans |
Mar-15-05 03:25 PM |
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I'm not suggesting overnight..that's why its a STRATEGY... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 05:10 PM |
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sometimes it is |
amazona |
Mar-15-05 11:31 AM |
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Supporting conservative Dems |
fujiyama |
Mar-15-05 12:06 PM |
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thanks for your post...I agree, the primary is the battlefield |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:11 PM |
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I think it depends on the situation |
BlueInRed |
Mar-15-05 12:23 PM |
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thank you, excellent points. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:41 PM |
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ok |
qazplm |
Mar-15-05 12:52 PM |
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that's what I hope Dean will do |
BlueInRed |
Mar-15-05 12:56 PM |
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good points..I think crediblity is one of the casualties, here. |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 12:59 PM |
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I'm having a real struggle with this one |
wryter2000 |
Mar-15-05 01:49 PM |
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no, that's fine... |
Lerkfish |
Mar-15-05 02:20 PM |
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Stop_the_War |
Mar-15-05 03:42 PM |
#127 |
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