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Thu Jan-22-04 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 50. you've put your finger on where we disagree |
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you think that concern about an issue is identical to punishing politicians. I don't, and it seems I'm not alone.
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| -When Kerry said "There are good parts of the Patriot Act" he lost my vote |
skjpm |
Jan-22-04 01:43 PM |
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Hence the "UNELECTABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!" of J. Forbes Kerry. |
robsul82 |
Jan-22-04 01:45 PM |
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Tell that to the Iowa Dems |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 01:47 PM |
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And 50 million Americans - not just partisans in a single Midwest state... |
robsul82 |
Jan-22-04 01:49 PM |
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There are good points to the PATRIOT Act |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 01:46 PM |
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I personally would like to hear Kerry tell us what he meant, which parts |
hlthe2b |
Jan-22-04 01:49 PM |
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An eminently reasonable request |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 01:50 PM |
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'Tis true. I'd like to hear it myself. |
robsul82 |
Jan-22-04 01:52 PM |
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One Positive Aspect |
Printer70 |
Jan-22-04 01:55 PM |
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and tracking off shore money is needed - but the GOP hides from IRS |
papau |
Jan-22-04 03:15 PM |
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Ok, vote for someone who like ALL of the Patriot Act |
TheDonkey |
Jan-22-04 01:48 PM |
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Well, to be fair, he probably hasn't read it. He's a Senator. |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 01:48 PM |
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LOL |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:22 PM |
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The TRUTH is spoken!!!! What they read is some polls, not the bills |
edzontar |
Jan-22-04 02:42 PM |
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA |
Snivi Yllom |
Jan-22-04 03:33 PM |
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Do you think Dean has read it? |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 03:45 PM |
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ABB! |
FreeperSlayer |
Jan-22-04 01:48 PM |
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There are hundreds of pages in the Patriot Act. |
eyesroll |
Jan-22-04 01:49 PM |
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You're plain wrong. There were ideas in the Patriot Act that were from |
blm |
Jan-22-04 01:50 PM |
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I think you're in the minority |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 01:52 PM |
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Indeed he is. The Patriot Act and the Crusade are both very popular |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 01:54 PM |
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the Patriot Act is extremely unpopular |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:04 PM |
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I see no people in the streets. Checked the DC Webcam |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:14 PM |
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candidates are constantly getting asked about it |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:24 PM |
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All but one member of congress voted for it without reading it. Please |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:28 PM |
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you've put your finger on where we disagree |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:36 PM |
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In the US the people have right of redress. Politicians are EMPLOYEES |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:44 PM |
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Yes, Dem voters ask about it |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:29 PM |
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I don't think it's nuance--I think it's spinelessness |
skjpm |
Jan-22-04 01:57 PM |
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If you had a strong argument |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:00 PM |
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Mein Kampf has good parts too |
skjpm |
Jan-22-04 02:07 PM |
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Mein Kampf isn't law. It's a book |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:14 PM |
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because it's true |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:15 PM |
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I agree with you. |
barbaraann |
Jan-22-04 02:02 PM |
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Really? |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 02:32 PM |
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that's what I'm talking about |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:07 PM |
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It was another dumbass vote |
Forkboy |
Jan-22-04 01:56 PM |
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Excuse me ... |
Iverson |
Jan-22-04 01:56 PM |
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skjpm, are you there? |
Iverson |
Jan-22-04 04:52 PM |
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Even the biggest opponents of U.S.A.-Patriot admit that there are |
genius |
Jan-22-04 02:03 PM |
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even Al Gore |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:10 PM |
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And Dean and Dennis Kucinich |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:15 PM |
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Um, no, Kucinich did not. |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:24 PM |
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Neither did Dean |
JVS |
Jan-22-04 02:25 PM |
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1 out of 3 ain't bad |
Forkboy |
Jan-22-04 02:27 PM |
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You're all wrong |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:32 PM |
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OK I see it now - but you're still wrong |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:34 PM |
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"He says there are good parts" |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:40 PM |
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Yes inded, it's all perception. |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:47 PM |
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I'm definitely down with that |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:50 PM |
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Yes |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:27 PM |
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Dean also thinks there are good parts to the PATRIOT Act |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:33 PM |
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I think anyone familiar with intelligence agrees |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:36 PM |
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I don't disagree with that |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:41 PM |
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Here's what had to say about civil liberties on 9/13/2001 |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:38 PM |
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He is not as distinguished in his opposition as Kucinich |
JVS |
Jan-22-04 02:36 PM |
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He didn't vote against it, either |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 02:57 PM |
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I don't believe that Kucinich read the bill before voting |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 02:36 PM |
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Your nitpick is duly noted ;-) |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:40 PM |
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because he is a politician, and the bush doctrine is also very popular |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:18 PM |
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even the ACLU, then |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:32 PM |
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Yes, support for both Patriot Act and crusade is overwhelming |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:38 PM |
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that;s what makes them credible |
Cocoa |
Jan-22-04 02:42 PM |
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LOL and I think you will find that those absolutely necessary changes |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:50 PM |
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Stop it! |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 03:21 PM |
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DT--I agree with you in general, but renewal of Patriot got booed |
edzontar |
Jan-22-04 02:49 PM |
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And it is great to see any small objection to it, but if you watch Fox |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-22-04 02:54 PM |
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Not quite |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 03:01 PM |
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There is good and bad in most bills. The recent ones are compromises |
bigtree |
Jan-22-04 02:16 PM |
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I dunno |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:18 PM |
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As much as I am not a big Kerry or PATRIOT act fan... |
absyntheNsugar |
Jan-22-04 02:19 PM |
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Oh and by the way - Ben Franklin Patriot Act |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:26 PM |
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Rep Kucinich's webcast was a breath of fresh air |
bigtree |
Jan-22-04 02:30 PM |
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Yes, I agree |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 02:42 PM |
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Aw, you know, I think all of the candidates are for the good |
bigtree |
Jan-22-04 03:45 PM |
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I don’t trust anyone who puts |
Bushknew |
Jan-22-04 02:27 PM |
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Bumpersticker politics are intellectually dishonest |
zulchzulu |
Jan-22-04 02:36 PM |
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"increased penalties for terrorists"???? |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 02:45 PM |
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My sig line says it all |
HeLovedBigBrother |
Jan-22-04 02:43 PM |
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What else could you expect? From a guy still defending the IWR. |
bandera |
Jan-22-04 02:44 PM |
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I would expect |
bigtree |
Jan-22-04 03:48 PM |
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Dagnabbit |
redqueen |
Jan-22-04 04:01 PM |
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You must not like Nadine Strossen either, the president of the ACLU. |
poopyjr |
Jan-22-04 02:52 PM |
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Insistence that the entire bill be tossed reveals a lack of understanding |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 03:08 PM |
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If you don't like Kerry's position on an issue , just wait 24 hours |
Cheswick |
Jan-22-04 03:20 PM |
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Confederate flag and taxes? |
poopyjr |
Jan-22-04 03:34 PM |
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Medicare and Affirmative Action |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 03:43 PM |
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Yucca Mountain anyone? |
sangha |
Jan-22-04 03:44 PM |
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Do you have a link to back up that charge? |
blm |
Jan-22-04 03:45 PM |
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There are good parts in the Patriot Act |
mot78 |
Jan-22-04 03:25 PM |
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Exactly |
beaconess |
Jan-22-04 03:33 PM |
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"Ending the Era of John Ashcroft" Kerry speech on Patriot Act |
emulatorloo |
Jan-22-04 03:33 PM |
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