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| 82. Better tell the 300,000 Florida Dems who voted for BUSH |
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Go ahead and complain about the 57,000 votes Nader supposedly cost Gore all you want.
The truth is that 300,000 FL Democrats voted for Bush over Gore. Why isn't your reightious anger directed at those Dems who crossed over party lines and voted for smirking chimp? According to most conventional math, if Gore had kept those 300k voters in the party, he would have handily won Florida, Nader or not.
If you want to point fingers, look in the mirror first. Nader didn't lose the election for Gore. Gore and his handlers lost it all on their own.
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| -The Green/Progressives will Compromise on Dean.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 09:56 PM |
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Ok |
jmaier |
Dec-21-03 09:58 PM |
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That's nice. What if Dean isn't the candidate? What then? |
mikehiggins |
Dec-21-03 09:59 PM |
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Dosnt matter.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:01 PM |
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Also, Kucinich, Sharpton, and maybe CMB |
0rganism |
Dec-21-03 10:00 PM |
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One of the Green Parties charter Members |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:04 PM |
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What a shame, I thought you might be joking |
0rganism |
Dec-21-03 10:11 PM |
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Yes that is a Plus.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:27 PM |
#35 |
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all things being equal...assuming he "resorts" to that... |
Terwilliger |
Dec-21-03 10:31 PM |
#39 |
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Thing is Nader dosnt Lead the Green Party |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:55 PM |
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I agree |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:56 PM |
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We never dreamed we'd get this far.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:00 PM |
#71 |
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Well it looks like we've decided to pick Lieberman, |
Devlzown |
Dec-21-03 10:01 PM |
#4 |
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This is progress... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-21-03 10:02 PM |
#6 |
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Sorry... |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:06 PM |
#10 |
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Who are you? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:10 PM |
#13 |
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Kerry has 97% rating with League of Conservation Voters |
zulchzulu |
Dec-21-03 11:21 PM |
#90 |
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The Green party considers Conservationist Groups like. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:43 PM |
#116 |
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What about League of Conservation voters? |
zulchzulu |
Dec-21-03 11:48 PM |
#119 |
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I don't think you know that for sure |
Terwilliger |
Dec-21-03 10:04 PM |
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You haven't seen what GPUS are preparing to say after the Dem primary |
cprise |
Dec-21-03 10:14 PM |
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Nope.Thats pretty much who weve got.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:15 PM |
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I thought Nader would run if it's not Kucinich? |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:23 PM |
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Kucinich |
Terwilliger |
Dec-21-03 10:25 PM |
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My predicition is that outside of Kucinich - Nader will run n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:34 PM |
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I must say this though.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:21 PM |
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How will he do this |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:34 PM |
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On that I cant tell you.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:46 PM |
#118 |
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Um...This Progressive didn't get that memo. I also didn't realize... |
JanMichael |
Dec-21-03 10:05 PM |
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Funny fucking show yesterday. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Dec-21-03 10:48 PM |
#59 |
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You mean, "Funny F'ed Up Show", no? |
JanMichael |
Dec-21-03 11:12 PM |
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Shit, |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Dec-22-03 12:07 AM |
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I wish I could meet one green who would say |
beyurslf |
Dec-21-03 10:06 PM |
#11 |
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You dont get it do you.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:17 PM |
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You are mistaken. Those votes did not start as Dem. |
cprise |
Dec-21-03 10:21 PM |
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Better tell the 300,000 Florida Dems who voted for BUSH |
no name no slogan |
Dec-21-03 11:15 PM |
#82 |
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Is this a threat? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:09 PM |
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It's a reality. |
mzmolly |
Dec-21-03 10:11 PM |
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"crushed like the guy in San Fran was" |
0rganism |
Dec-21-03 10:17 PM |
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Regardless it's 2.7% nationally and even smaller in the swing states. n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:20 PM |
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Enough to be a big problem |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:23 PM |
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You won't get 2.7% regardless of who Democrats run - Not in 2004 |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:25 PM |
#32 |
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We will have more this year... |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:36 PM |
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The question is how many Green's from 2000 will vote Green in 2004? |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:57 PM |
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No the question is how many citizens have turned 18 in the last 4 years? |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:14 PM |
#81 |
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Will a traditionally poor voter block make up for temporary defectors? |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:16 PM |
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You call them tempoerary defectors.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:24 PM |
#91 |
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Is that the philosophy of the Green party? n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:27 PM |
#100 |
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The Green party has no Forrmal organization.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:38 PM |
#111 |
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You Sure? Green Party Awarded National Committee Status by FEC |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:41 PM |
#113 |
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I was Afraid of this.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:51 PM |
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LOL - Great job in throwing everyone for a loop n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:52 PM |
#124 |
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I am locking this thread. |
Moderator |
Dec-22-03 06:33 AM |
#159 |
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We Are not the National Green Party.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:55 PM |
#127 |
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LOL - Even better someone stole your name? n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:58 PM |
#129 |
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Quik, Call the police |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-22-03 12:00 AM |
#131 |
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Don't fret - i think the name |
VancSouthpaw |
Dec-22-03 02:50 AM |
#152 |
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Umm the youth vote is decidedly nonexistant... n/t |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-22-03 02:58 AM |
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I read that Nader WILL NOT |
drfemoe |
Dec-21-03 11:49 PM |
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Source? I have never heard of that other than on this thread... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:51 PM |
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I'll see if I can find it .. |
drfemoe |
Dec-21-03 11:59 PM |
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It was reported in the WSJ Friday |
drfemoe |
Dec-22-03 12:17 AM |
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Yeah - I've seen the piece but I still have my doubts... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 12:26 AM |
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??? |
drfemoe |
Dec-22-03 01:14 AM |
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An editorial comment extrapolated from Nader's praise of Dean... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 01:40 AM |
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n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:57 PM |
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Turning away a piece of 2.7% nationally? That's smart. |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:47 PM |
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They can choose. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:52 PM |
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From the Green Party emails I've seen... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:57 PM |
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What does a Green have in common with Dean? Other than it rhymes n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:13 PM |
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Plenty. |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 11:20 PM |
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How does that differ with any of the other candidates? |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:35 PM |
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There are a number of areas, of course. |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 11:55 PM |
#126 |
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I think you are wrong about who disagreed with Iraq |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 12:03 AM |
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An excellent statement... |
silverweb |
Dec-22-03 01:02 AM |
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Actually it wasn't a comment on Dean's support or... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 01:46 AM |
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That's a very good piece |
silverweb |
Dec-22-03 02:10 AM |
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Lieberman is conservative in one sense but he's not in others... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 02:20 AM |
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It's the Hawk part that makes me nervous. |
silverweb |
Dec-22-03 02:31 AM |
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Dec-21-03 11:18 PM |
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How does he plan to run for the Democrats? In the primary? n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:19 PM |
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53-47 is crushed? |
Terwilliger |
Dec-21-03 10:23 PM |
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Does this mean... |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 10:12 PM |
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That would be a more legitimate tactic |
mikehiggins |
Dec-21-03 10:17 PM |
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Dictating doesn't work, anyway. |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 10:19 PM |
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Accually Yes it does.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:21 PM |
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Dec-21-03 10:24 PM |
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Bye |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:34 PM |
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I can speak only for myself, of course, |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 10:34 PM |
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Well said, silverweb. |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:11 PM |
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^5s, dajabr! |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 11:14 PM |
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Dec-21-03 10:16 PM |
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This has been my biggest fear about Clark & his suppporters... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:23 PM |
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Should we let the republicans decide who we vote for? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:29 PM |
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Many people thought they cost Gore the Presidency... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:32 PM |
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Will you trade off the middle for the Greens? I know Dean won't n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:35 PM |
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Dean won't have to. (nt) |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:38 PM |
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Sure - how does he plan to appease both side? Voodoo? n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 10:55 PM |
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He's been doing it. Pay attention. (nt) |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:58 PM |
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The unexplainable Dean-Green phenomenon... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:10 PM |
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"The unexplainable Clark-Green phenomenon..." |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:20 PM |
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Plenty of progressive Clark supporters in Seattle - But thanks for playing |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:24 PM |
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"Plenty" Thanks for the real figures on Clark. What poll is that? LOL(nt) |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:34 PM |
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Where are your figures? Oh that's right you don't have any... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:37 PM |
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You first! And, answer me this so we're clear... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:41 PM |
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No - You didn't start this thread so I didn't call you anything... |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:43 PM |
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"strangely bitter?" |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:49 PM |
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Is that the angry man persona? ;^) n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:53 PM |
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No... |
dajabr |
Dec-22-03 12:07 AM |
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And you know this is just a discussion ;) |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 12:10 AM |
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Thanks! |
dajabr |
Dec-22-03 12:18 AM |
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That's different and you know it. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:36 PM |
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Anybody that saw the interview he gave... |
nomaco-10 |
Dec-21-03 10:27 PM |
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so I guess Dean offered Nader a cabinet post? |
windansea |
Dec-21-03 10:29 PM |
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George Bush thanks you for your support |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:30 PM |
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Wow, wanderingbear, I think you just uncovered a major flaw... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:37 PM |
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Umm check that |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:40 PM |
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Clark has acknowledged that running as a "General" is fine for Republicans |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:43 PM |
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There are far more |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:46 PM |
#56 |
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Case for Dean... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:51 PM |
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If Dean is so great |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:54 PM |
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That "tiny huffy minority" |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:02 PM |
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And then they can get |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:05 PM |
#73 |
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If Dean drives away middle of the road people in the GE... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:15 PM |
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It's not a plot. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:24 PM |
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Yes, we know. Clark and Dean will pull Independants. |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:38 PM |
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OK so |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:44 PM |
#117 |
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"Farewell to the swing voter" |
dajabr |
Dec-22-03 12:02 AM |
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No - Those are the 10%-15% of America who are Independent |
SahaleArm |
Dec-21-03 11:25 PM |
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You dont get it..Were willing to risk that. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:26 PM |
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Remeber what this Tiny Minority did last time?? |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:09 PM |
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I dont think He did.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:46 PM |
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So without the backing of the Green party |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 10:48 PM |
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Dec-22-03 12:05 AM |
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I really dont see any other way.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 10:43 PM |
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Speaking as a Democrat... |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 10:45 PM |
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The Dean campaign welcomes everyone |
party_line |
Dec-21-03 10:41 PM |
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Amen! |
silverweb |
Dec-21-03 10:46 PM |
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Speak for yourself. |
neuvocat |
Dec-21-03 10:47 PM |
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bullshit |
mitchum |
Dec-21-03 10:49 PM |
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I'm not going to |
mzpip |
Dec-21-03 11:13 PM |
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OK, you've dismissed bringing in "Naderites" |
dajabr |
Dec-21-03 11:24 PM |
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What Green or progressive issues attract you to Dean? |
zulchzulu |
Dec-21-03 11:26 PM |
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First and formost He is |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:29 PM |
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Kucinich hasn't? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:36 PM |
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canidate?? |
windansea |
Dec-21-03 11:37 PM |
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Dec-21-03 11:51 PM |
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You wrote this the other day |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:26 PM |
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No..They havent outrightly said anything.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-21-03 11:31 PM |
#102 |
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Your view is shared with the freepers |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-03 11:32 PM |
#103 |
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That's so outrageous |
jmaier |
Dec-21-03 11:40 PM |
#112 |
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That's not true. |
poskonig |
Dec-21-03 11:27 PM |
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Nevermind..It looks like were not the Green Party any more.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-22-03 12:11 AM |
#138 |
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huh |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-22-03 12:21 AM |
#141 |
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Well..The Original Party is almost out of funds.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-22-03 12:25 AM |
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Im still registerd with the Pacific Greens.. |
wanderingbear |
Dec-22-03 12:42 AM |
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Greens/Progressives have a point... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-22-03 03:16 AM |
#154 |
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sorry, friend, I don't believe you're a Green |
Iverson |
Dec-22-03 04:22 AM |
#155 |
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Yes - the use of "Infiltrators" was a dead giveaway,.. |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 04:31 AM |
#156 |
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thanks, but I also doubt a Dean supporter |
Iverson |
Dec-22-03 04:42 AM |
#157 |
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Or up so late ;) n/t |
SahaleArm |
Dec-22-03 04:49 AM |
#158 |
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