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9. At least Wolfson got Howard's back yesterday --

Wolfson to Minarik:

"Don't accuse the 5.5 million Democrats in this state of treason if you hope to win our votes," said Howard Wolfson, a Democratic consultant and top adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "And, if you make that mistake again, you best be prepared to make it to my face, because we love this country much too much to allow you to ever question our patriotism."

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  -Has AAR been given talking points....about Dean? madfloridian  Feb-17-05 12:02 PM   #0 
  - Yep, I heard that today and was pretty appalled at Lizz and Rachel. NT  NYCGirl   Feb-17-05 12:05 PM   #1 
  - sad day  ananda   Feb-17-05 12:06 PM   #2 
  - Yes, indeed. Dean got that right... Stockholm Syndrome.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 12:07 PM   #4 
  - Yep...heard it too -they fell for it HOOK LINE AND SINKER  Al-CIAda   Feb-17-05 12:07 PM   #3 
  - They were using all the Centrist talking points during the  CWebster   Feb-17-05 12:08 PM   #5 
  - So let me get this straight...they've been positive about Dean and when  xultar   Feb-17-05 12:13 PM   #6 
  - No, I love Unfiltered and I'll continue to listen to them.  NYCGirl   Feb-17-05 12:15 PM   #7 
  - We say things and ACCUSE people on our side of awful things for sake  xultar   Feb-17-05 12:20 PM   #11 
     - What did I accuse anyone of doing? NT  NYCGirl   Feb-17-05 12:21 PM   #12 
     - I was just making a statement. IT wasn't directed @ was WE...  xultar   Feb-17-05 12:24 PM   #14 
        - I'll go ahead and be me, thanks  Debi   Feb-17-05 07:38 PM   #42 
           - Well it is against the rules to call out people specifically so we have to  xultar   Feb-17-05 08:02 PM   #45 
              - Or you could just not call people out.  Debi   Feb-17-05 08:27 PM   #56 
                 - Awww Debi, you're soooo kute! Thanks for the interesting chat!  xultar   Feb-17-05 10:14 PM   #71 
     - I told the truth. If the media reads it no harm done.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 07:27 PM   #40 
  - My point is since he was elected chair.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 12:15 PM   #8 
  - You HONESTLY think they are using talking points? I'm not arguing  xultar   Feb-17-05 12:18 PM   # 
     - I don't presume to speak for MadFlor, but perhaps she was using a figure  NYCGirl   Feb-17-05 12:22 PM   #13 
        - Perhaps, we don't understand the power of words, David Corn was really  xultar   Feb-17-05 12:27 PM   #15 
           - I did not attack David Corn, ever. I posted a summary below  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 07:24 PM   #39 
              - I was just using David Corn as an example. How can AAR have hurt  xultar   Feb-17-05 08:01 PM   #44 
                 - That does not deserve an answer.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:26 PM   #55 
                 - Sooooo, the answer is yes. Then we agree! That wasn't hard. n/t  xultar   Feb-17-05 10:15 PM   #72 
                    - No, we do not agree on this at all.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 11:41 PM   #87 
                 - Corn is a tool.  sadiesworld   Feb-18-05 11:31 AM   #109 
  - They know what the damn climate surrounding him is  CWebster   Feb-17-05 12:18 PM   #10 
  - If a left leaning radio station is using  zidzi   Feb-17-05 09:10 PM   #67 
  - At least Wolfson got Howard's back yesterday --  quiet.american   Feb-17-05 12:16 PM   #9 
  - "Cautious" was the key on AAR word after the fraudulent election.  intheflow   Feb-17-05 12:30 PM   #16 
  - Malloy was not 'cautious'; most of the rest were onto it quick--'cept Al  kamqute   Feb-17-05 11:23 PM   #78 
  - Many of our Democrats are not up to date on late breaking.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 12:30 PM   #17 
  - OK, this is getting disturbing  DrGonzoLives   Feb-17-05 12:31 PM   #18 
  - Word.................... n/t  xultar   Feb-17-05 12:33 PM   #20 
  - Within the GOD DAMN CLIMATE  CWebster   Feb-17-05 12:34 PM   #21 
  - I am refuting it here. Our Democrats need to be better informed.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 12:35 PM   #22 
  - You Are Refuting Diddly Squat. You Didn't Even Provide A Quote  cryingshame   Feb-17-05 05:38 PM   #24 
     - I don't mind answering and giving details.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 05:55 PM   #28 
        - Mad FLA...  Debi   Feb-17-05 07:35 PM   #41 
           - Thanks for that.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 07:38 PM   #43 
  - Dean can be critisized when he makes a mistake  RogueTrooper   Feb-18-05 10:55 AM   #106 
  - Rapid response is needed here. Floridian, can you get us email addresses  shance   Feb-17-05 12:32 PM   #19 
  - Harping About What? YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY SAID  cryingshame   Feb-17-05 05:38 PM   #25 
     - Easy does it Mr. BOLD letters. How would you even know what  shance   Feb-17-05 05:54 PM   #27 
     - how exactly do you know what someone else knows? calm down.  KissMeKate   Feb-18-05 01:47 PM   #114 
  - Let AAR know blaming the good guys is bad for Democracy, and cowardly.  shance   Feb-17-05 04:46 PM   #23 
  - "WERD".....N/T  lojasmo   Feb-17-05 05:57 PM   #30 
  - No shit  TOJ   Feb-17-05 08:28 PM   #57 
  - I've heard  DaveinMD   Feb-17-05 05:47 PM   #26 
  - I have not heard any recent criticism of Dean from AAR. n/t  janx   Feb-17-05 05:56 PM   #29 
  - Did you listen to Unfiltered this morning.?  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 06:04 PM   #31 
     - No, I did not listen to it, and I'm not sure it's available here.  janx   Feb-17-05 06:09 PM   #33 
     - I posted a summary below.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 07:04 PM   #38 
     - Please, mad,  Andromeda   Feb-17-05 08:07 PM   #49 
        - I posted a summary below. I just got slammed for that.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:16 PM   #52 
        - You are right about the ailing and not knowing it.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:25 PM   #54 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-17-05 06:04 PM   #32 
  - Well, I admit that I mostly only listen to AAR  Crunchy Frog   Feb-17-05 06:10 PM   #34 
  - AAR 365 days positive about Dean & on 366 they are critical and we must  xultar   Feb-17-05 08:06 PM   #47 
  - To reiterate...the issue was not Dean. It was being uninformed.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 06:27 PM   #35 
  - But they're not "Democratic" radio  tishaLA   Feb-17-05 08:07 PM   # 
     - No, you are wrong. They did use the same points the right wing media used  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:22 PM   #53 
        - I see you won't understand  tishaLA   Feb-17-05 08:32 PM   #58 
           - Why don't you listen to the reruns?  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:38 PM   #61 
              - "Democratic" didn't "bother" me. It was incorrect  tishaLA   Feb-17-05 08:53 PM   #64 
                 - I don't think they were "given" rw talking points.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:59 PM   #66 
                    - So you'd rather assume the worst about progressives  tishaLA   Feb-18-05 12:34 AM   #88 
                       - That is pure baloney....  madfloridian   Feb-18-05 12:39 AM   #89 
                       - I've read your "summary"  tishaLA   Feb-18-05 09:32 AM   #100 
                          - They did not do their homework. They used spin to criticize Dean.  madfloridian   Feb-18-05 09:55 AM   #103 
                       - Progressive, my ass---  CWebster   Feb-18-05 05:50 AM   #95 
                          - I think those are all legitimate criticisms of AAR  tishaLA   Feb-18-05 09:36 AM   #101 
  - Here is a summary....  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 06:55 PM   #36 
  - I don't really care for "Unfiltered"  wyldwolf   Feb-17-05 07:01 PM   #37 
  - Interesting  Jim4Wes   Feb-17-05 08:34 PM   #60 
  - Unfiltered is the weakest show!  Vinnie From Indy   Feb-17-05 08:04 PM   #46 
  - YOU MADE ME SAD!  kamqute   Feb-17-05 11:24 PM   #79 
  - here is my problem with Unfiltered  wyldwolf   Feb-18-05 05:31 PM   #116 
  - Are they telling Dean to be "cautious"? Is that how they're using  TexasSissy   Feb-17-05 08:07 PM   #48 
  - If you had read my post, you would know that is not what I meant.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:14 PM   #51 
     - I read your post. You did not state explicitly how the word  TexasSissy   Feb-18-05 11:41 AM   #110 
        - I'm sorry you're upset, TexasSissy  tishaLA   Feb-18-05 11:46 AM   #111 
  - Democrats are friggin stupid.  mzmolly   Feb-17-05 08:09 PM   #50 
  - Minarik is trying to hook Dean (and Clark)  WesDem   Feb-17-05 08:33 PM   #59 
  - Thanks, I had not seen those articles.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:40 PM   #62 
  - I did find a little from 2003, but Dean and Clark not mentioned attending.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 08:54 PM   #65 
     - This is about the Democratic Party  WesDem   Feb-17-05 09:52 PM   #70 
        - Here is more about Minarik's possible reasons.  madfloridian   Feb-18-05 10:33 AM   #104 
        - They had the wrong picture as well. This is becoming a joke.  madfloridian   Feb-18-05 10:49 AM   #105 
           - Hilarious!!  WesDem   Feb-18-05 11:20 AM   #107 
  - Dean is a double-threat..  sendero   Feb-17-05 08:47 PM   #63 
  - Let's get this in balance...  Mich Otter   Feb-17-05 09:22 PM   #68 
  - Not about a joke. About his fighting back as he did yesterday.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 09:25 PM   #69 
  - Agreed!!! n/t  xultar   Feb-17-05 10:18 PM   #73 
     - Not agreed. We have "moved on" too often.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 10:59 PM   #74 
  - Is this thread as pointless and unproductive as it reads?  Mr_Spock   Feb-17-05 11:01 PM   #75 
  - My parts of the thread aren't.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 11:10 PM   #76 
     - Mine response required no thought at all  Mr_Spock   Feb-17-05 11:27 PM   #83 
        - Many others in the thread required less than that. LOL  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 11:31 PM   #86 
  - "Goes after you"--how so? Dean is not "us"..he is accountable to us  kamqute   Feb-17-05 11:17 PM   #77 
  - how about  DaveinMD   Feb-17-05 11:25 PM   #80 
  - Well, there we do agree!  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 11:27 PM   #82 
     - we agree on a lot more than you think  DaveinMD   Feb-17-05 11:30 PM   #85 
  - Counterpunch is not much respected here for its attacks on all Dems.  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 11:26 PM   #81 
  - Counterpunch rocks. Even Krugman reads it! (see below) :)  marcologico   Feb-18-05 04:11 AM   #93 
     - So, ya think so?  CWebster   Feb-18-05 06:03 AM   #96 
        - Read 'em, liked 'em, discussed 'em here. At least he's an EO crank! n/t  marcologico   Feb-18-05 06:11 AM   #97 
  - Oh, and how long have you given him to be "accountable" to you?  madfloridian   Feb-17-05 11:30 PM   #84 
  - Paul Krugman (NYT) cited CP on Tues. to argue Dean is a "safe" moderate.  marcologico   Feb-18-05 04:05 AM   #92 
  - So much for left-wing hand wringers  quaker bill   Feb-18-05 06:36 AM   #99 
  - "I have never seen similar defensiveness with respect to Kerry" BULL.  KissMeKate   Feb-18-05 01:53 PM   #115 
  - Apparently they didn't read Dean's comment about hating repukes  Carolab   Feb-18-05 02:29 AM   #90 
  - The point is...did you DO anything about it?  itzamirakul   Feb-18-05 04:02 AM   #91 
  - I was so mad I turned off the real player  mandyky   Feb-18-05 05:32 AM   #94 
  - MadFla, here is something from a real progressive,  CWebster   Feb-18-05 06:14 AM   #98 
  - "Unfiltered" is AAR's "Alan Colmes"!  PROGRESSIVE1   Feb-18-05 09:49 AM   #102 
  - Did Terry get this treatment his first week on the job???  GloriaSmith   Feb-18-05 11:24 AM   #108 
  - Does anybody know where I can find a link  Crunchy Frog   Feb-18-05 01:33 PM   #112 
     - There is a website that archives them...I can't find it.  madfloridian   Feb-18-05 01:41 PM   #113 
     - AAR Archives  pinellas   Feb-19-05 08:39 AM   #117 
        - See post about Minarik and the picture, and comments before it.  madfloridian   Feb-19-05 10:24 AM   #118 
        - Thank you,  Crunchy Frog   Feb-19-05 10:35 AM   #119 

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