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Fri Feb-11-05 05:12 PM
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| 61. Here's the latest gallup poll |
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Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 05:15 PM by WesDem
89% think terrorism is extremely or very important. If we don't get a grip on this in our message, we keep losing. On Edit: http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/tables/live/2005-02-... |
| -Forget candidates for a moment. What message do you want Democrats to have |
AP |
Feb-10-05 11:45 PM |
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LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-10-05 11:47 PM |
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Democracy. Fair, Open, Transparent Elections where every vote is counted. |
demodonkey |
Feb-10-05 11:50 PM |
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I appreciate your focus on issues over candidates |
imenja |
Feb-10-05 11:56 PM |
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There's a certain pride that most of us used to be able to have |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-10-05 11:58 PM |
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I think language that evokes the Founding Fathers is one way |
imenja |
Feb-11-05 12:11 AM |
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EXACTLY. Bring our country back |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-11-05 12:12 AM |
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I Like What You Say. |
cryingshame |
Feb-11-05 07:12 AM |
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Thanks |
imenja |
Feb-11-05 04:08 PM |
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Exactly right, imenja |
WesDem |
Feb-11-05 08:21 AM |
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If Dean has anything to say about it, we'll be seeing a lot |
janx |
Feb-11-05 01:41 PM |
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Yes, esp in 06 the frame should be |
mandyky |
Feb-11-05 07:33 PM |
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When Clinton said, "We're all in this together." |
TwentyFive |
Feb-10-05 11:58 PM |
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Are we too past "The Apprentice" to say simply "You're Fired" |
LittleClarkie |
Feb-11-05 12:03 AM |
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I wanted to see that ad during the campaign |
imenja |
Feb-11-05 12:14 AM |
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Responsibility to our children, building a better future |
cestpaspossible |
Feb-11-05 01:29 AM |
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None of those really say it for me... |
RealDems |
Feb-11-05 02:06 AM |
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Beacon of Light |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 02:15 AM |
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A vision for the next Century - of World Markets and Justice for All |
applegrove |
Feb-11-05 02:52 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-11-05 04:41 PM |
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Yeah I read that. Horrible stuff. I knew parts of it because I was |
applegrove |
Feb-11-05 05:15 PM |
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"smart with money and always learning how to do things better" |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Feb-11-05 07:05 PM |
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to improve the lot of all the people! |
applegrove |
Feb-12-05 11:39 AM |
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Everybody in, nobody out. n/t |
eridani |
Feb-11-05 04:52 AM |
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End the war, bring the troops home NOW! |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-11-05 05:25 AM |
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Social and economic justice AND keep America safer |
bklyncowgirl |
Feb-11-05 06:08 AM |
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End corrupt one party control. |
snippy |
Feb-11-05 07:16 AM |
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Values? Unity, Progress, Accountability. |
cryingshame |
Feb-11-05 07:19 AM |
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Save the American way of life, and the middle class |
rfkrfk |
Feb-11-05 07:29 AM |
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Voted Other |
WesDem |
Feb-11-05 08:16 AM |
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"The world is a frightening place..." |
janx |
Feb-11-05 01:37 PM |
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I for one don't find that funny. The terrorism threat is real and |
wesrose |
Feb-11-05 02:21 PM |
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Here's the latest gallup poll |
WesDem |
Feb-11-05 05:12 PM |
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It's a matter of priorities. Democrats will win when people decide it's |
AP |
Feb-11-05 07:20 PM |
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No, we have to do both |
WesDem |
Feb-11-05 08:09 PM |
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A national security platform untethered to a clear progressive value sys- |
AP |
Feb-12-05 12:47 AM |
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Nor is this what I said |
WesDem |
Feb-12-05 07:38 AM |
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We're the party of Progressive values: responsibility and empathy. |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 08:23 AM |
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poverty, opportunity, hard work. AND diplomacy, alliances |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 08:30 AM |
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The front-runner choice is poorly worded because it posits... |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 08:40 AM |
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should the Party's MESSAGE be restricted to only one of these? |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 08:51 AM |
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Does this sound familiar: "Dems lost in 2004 because people didn't know |
AP |
Feb-11-05 09:03 AM |
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I couldn't have said it better, AP. Our message should be first... |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 09:09 AM |
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we're in total agreement on "values first" |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 09:25 AM |
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Here's how that message applies to FP: |
AP |
Feb-11-05 09:28 AM |
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excellent use of values |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 10:26 AM |
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... |
AP |
Feb-11-05 11:00 AM |
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For a good primer on values vs. policies and issues, see this article... |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 09:32 AM |
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very good website |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 09:58 AM |
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"sometimes i feel that the "values" discussion reduces things too far" |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 11:42 AM |
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empathy and/or responsibility |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 12:17 PM |
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No, but those values SHOULD be enumerated in the... |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 01:33 PM |
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ding ding ding ... we have a winner !! |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 02:02 PM |
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The front runner choice is about the economy -- it's about class & .... |
AP |
Feb-11-05 08:58 AM |
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Other. The war, social justice, the war and the charade of wars |
Tinoire |
Feb-11-05 08:49 AM |
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perfect !! |
welshTerrier2 |
Feb-11-05 08:54 AM |
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"fighting poverty, increasing opportunity, and ending these obscene wars" |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 09:10 AM |
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I don't think your average American voter is anti-war when you frame |
AP |
Feb-11-05 09:12 AM |
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More simply, do you believe in waging war responsibly? |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 09:13 AM |
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"responsibly"/"irresponsibly" doesn't explain a core progressive value. |
AP |
Feb-11-05 09:25 AM |
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Disagree. Responsibility is a core Progressive value. |
ClassWarrior |
Feb-11-05 09:28 AM |
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Responsibility is a core value. I don't think it says enough about the |
AP |
Feb-11-05 09:32 AM |
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I believe in waging them rarely, and never |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-12-05 03:19 AM |
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Good point but |
Tinoire |
Feb-11-05 09:52 AM |
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Yup. War is a Racket, Not a Tool of Justice...even Dems don't get this. |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Feb-11-05 04:27 PM |
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here's the message |
LinuxInsurgent |
Feb-11-05 09:18 AM |
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Taking back the values - the real American values |
Jim4Wes |
Feb-11-05 10:39 AM |
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Full-service party. Exactly. |
wesrose |
Feb-11-05 02:24 PM |
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Civil liberties, the most patriotic ideal of all. |
American Tragedy |
Feb-11-05 12:40 PM |
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#4 is awesome, but I don't want Edwards. Sorry. |
Zhade |
Feb-11-05 03:41 PM |
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Those are classic progressive, populist goals. |
MissMarple |
Feb-11-05 04:33 PM |
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Oh, I like Edwards in many ways. |
Zhade |
Feb-12-05 02:32 AM |
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On what your basing that interpretation of FP? |
AP |
Feb-12-05 10:45 AM |
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Indeed. And if Edwards comes out against the war... |
Zhade |
Feb-12-05 02:09 PM |
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Whether you're for him or not, he's the only one making these arguments |
AP |
Feb-11-05 07:23 PM |
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That may be what we have to do. |
Zhade |
Feb-12-05 02:33 AM |
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FP views: |
AP |
Feb-12-05 10:39 AM |
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It's a start. |
Zhade |
Feb-12-05 02:10 PM |
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Honesty, rationality, fairness, rewarding work, freedom....nt |
KnowerOfLogic |
Feb-11-05 06:55 PM |
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Truth |
mordarlar |
Feb-12-05 04:46 AM |
#73 |
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