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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:41 PM
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52. If Dean has anything to say about it, we'll be seeing a lot
of that in coming days. :party:
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  -Forget candidates for a moment. What message do you want Democrats to have AP  Feb-10-05 11:45 PM   #0 
  - LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-10-05 11:47 PM   #1 
  - Democracy. Fair, Open, Transparent Elections where every vote is counted.  demodonkey   Feb-10-05 11:50 PM   #2 
  - I appreciate your focus on issues over candidates  imenja   Feb-10-05 11:56 PM   #3 
  - There's a certain pride that most of us used to be able to have  BullGooseLoony   Feb-10-05 11:58 PM   #5 
     - I think language that evokes the Founding Fathers is one way  imenja   Feb-11-05 12:11 AM   #7 
        - EXACTLY. Bring our country back  BullGooseLoony   Feb-11-05 12:12 AM   #8 
        - I Like What You Say.  cryingshame   Feb-11-05 07:12 AM   #17 
        - Thanks  imenja   Feb-11-05 04:08 PM   #57 
        - Exactly right, imenja  WesDem   Feb-11-05 08:21 AM   #22 
        - If Dean has anything to say about it, we'll be seeing a lot  janx   Feb-11-05 01:41 PM   #52 
        - Yes, esp in 06 the frame should be  mandyky   Feb-11-05 07:33 PM   #67 
  - When Clinton said, "We're all in this together."  TwentyFive   Feb-10-05 11:58 PM   #4 
  - Are we too past "The Apprentice" to say simply "You're Fired"  LittleClarkie   Feb-11-05 12:03 AM   #6 
  - I wanted to see that ad during the campaign  imenja   Feb-11-05 12:14 AM   #9 
  - Responsibility to our children, building a better future  cestpaspossible   Feb-11-05 01:29 AM   #10 
  - None of those really say it for me...  RealDems   Feb-11-05 02:06 AM   #11 
  - Beacon of Light  sandnsea   Feb-11-05 02:15 AM   #12 
  - A vision for the next Century - of World Markets and Justice for All  applegrove   Feb-11-05 02:52 AM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-05 04:41 PM   #60 
     - Yeah I read that. Horrible stuff. I knew parts of it because I was  applegrove   Feb-11-05 05:15 PM   #62 
        - "smart with money and always learning how to do things better"  JohnOneillsMemory   Feb-11-05 07:05 PM   #64 
           - to improve the lot of all the people!  applegrove   Feb-12-05 11:39 AM   #77 
  - Everybody in, nobody out. n/t  eridani   Feb-11-05 04:52 AM   #14 
  - End the war, bring the troops home NOW!  IndianaGreen   Feb-11-05 05:25 AM   #15 
  - Social and economic justice AND keep America safer  bklyncowgirl   Feb-11-05 06:08 AM   #16 
  - End corrupt one party control.  snippy   Feb-11-05 07:16 AM   #18 
  - Values? Unity, Progress, Accountability.  cryingshame   Feb-11-05 07:19 AM   #19 
  - Save the American way of life, and the middle class  rfkrfk   Feb-11-05 07:29 AM   #20 
  - Voted Other  WesDem   Feb-11-05 08:16 AM   #21 
  - "The world is a frightening place..."  janx   Feb-11-05 01:37 PM   #51 
     - I for one don't find that funny. The terrorism threat is real and  wesrose   Feb-11-05 02:21 PM   #54 
     - Here's the latest gallup poll  WesDem   Feb-11-05 05:12 PM   #61 
        - It's a matter of priorities. Democrats will win when people decide it's  AP   Feb-11-05 07:20 PM   #65 
           - No, we have to do both  WesDem   Feb-11-05 08:09 PM   #68 
              - A national security platform untethered to a clear progressive value sys-  AP   Feb-12-05 12:47 AM   #69 
                 - Nor is this what I said  WesDem   Feb-12-05 07:38 AM   #74 
  - We're the party of Progressive values: responsibility and empathy.  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 08:23 AM   #23 
  - poverty, opportunity, hard work. AND diplomacy, alliances  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 08:30 AM   #24 
  - The front-runner choice is poorly worded because it posits...  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 08:40 AM   #25 
     - should the Party's MESSAGE be restricted to only one of these?  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 08:51 AM   #27 
     - Does this sound familiar: "Dems lost in 2004 because people didn't know  AP   Feb-11-05 09:03 AM   #30 
        - I couldn't have said it better, AP. Our message should be first...  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 09:09 AM   #31 
        - we're in total agreement on "values first"  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 09:25 AM   #36 
           - Here's how that message applies to FP:  AP   Feb-11-05 09:28 AM   #38 
           - excellent use of values  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 10:26 AM   #44 
              - ...  AP   Feb-11-05 11:00 AM   #46 
           - For a good primer on values vs. policies and issues, see this article...  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 09:32 AM   #41 
              - very good website  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 09:58 AM   #43 
                 - "sometimes i feel that the "values" discussion reduces things too far"  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 11:42 AM   #47 
                    - empathy and/or responsibility  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 12:17 PM   #48 
                       - No, but those values SHOULD be enumerated in the...  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 01:33 PM   #50 
                          - ding ding ding ... we have a winner !!  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 02:02 PM   #53 
     - The front runner choice is about the economy -- it's about class & ....  AP   Feb-11-05 08:58 AM   #29 
  - Other. The war, social justice, the war and the charade of wars  Tinoire   Feb-11-05 08:49 AM   #26 
  - perfect !!  welshTerrier2   Feb-11-05 08:54 AM   #28 
  - "fighting poverty, increasing opportunity, and ending these obscene wars"  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 09:10 AM   #32 
  - I don't think your average American voter is anti-war when you frame  AP   Feb-11-05 09:12 AM   #33 
     - More simply, do you believe in waging war responsibly?  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 09:13 AM   #34 
     - "responsibly"/"irresponsibly" doesn't explain a core progressive value.  AP   Feb-11-05 09:25 AM   #37 
     - Disagree. Responsibility is a core Progressive value.  ClassWarrior   Feb-11-05 09:28 AM   #39 
        - Responsibility is a core value. I don't think it says enough about the  AP   Feb-11-05 09:32 AM   #40 
     - I believe in waging them rarely, and never  BullGooseLoony   Feb-12-05 03:19 AM   #72 
     - Good point but  Tinoire   Feb-11-05 09:52 AM   #42 
        - Yup. War is a Racket, Not a Tool of Justice...even Dems don't get this.  JohnOneillsMemory   Feb-11-05 04:27 PM   #58 
  - here's the message  LinuxInsurgent   Feb-11-05 09:18 AM   #35 
  - Taking back the values - the real American values  Jim4Wes   Feb-11-05 10:39 AM   #45 
  - Full-service party. Exactly.  wesrose   Feb-11-05 02:24 PM   #55 
  - Civil liberties, the most patriotic ideal of all.  American Tragedy   Feb-11-05 12:40 PM   #49 
  - #4 is awesome, but I don't want Edwards. Sorry.  Zhade   Feb-11-05 03:41 PM   #56 
  - Those are classic progressive, populist goals.  MissMarple   Feb-11-05 04:33 PM   #59 
  - Oh, I like Edwards in many ways.  Zhade   Feb-12-05 02:32 AM   #70 
     - On what your basing that interpretation of FP?  AP   Feb-12-05 10:45 AM   #76 
        - Indeed. And if Edwards comes out against the war...  Zhade   Feb-12-05 02:09 PM   #78 
  - Whether you're for him or not, he's the only one making these arguments  AP   Feb-11-05 07:23 PM   #66 
     - That may be what we have to do.  Zhade   Feb-12-05 02:33 AM   #71 
        - FP views:  AP   Feb-12-05 10:39 AM   #75 
           - It's a start.  Zhade   Feb-12-05 02:10 PM   #79 
  - Honesty, rationality, fairness, rewarding work, freedom....nt  KnowerOfLogic   Feb-11-05 06:55 PM   #63 
  - Truth  mordarlar   Feb-12-05 04:46 AM   #73 
 

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