sarcasmo
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Feb-11-05 11:42 AM
Response to Original message |
| 49. Why don't they just raise the age to 80. |
|
Problem Solved.
Sarcasm of course.
|
| -The ONLY correct fix for Social Security |
googly |
Feb-10-05 03:30 PM |
#0 |
 -
The so called crisis is because there are fewer working Americans |
Vincardog |
Feb-10-05 03:34 PM |
#1 |
 -
There are NOT fewer Americans paying in Vs taking out AT THIS TIME |
googly |
Feb-10-05 03:42 PM |
#4 |
 -
I agree :-) But the only real result of selling the bonds now is to remove |
papau |
Feb-11-05 05:03 AM |
#37 |
| -
Bull. |
Warpy |
Feb-10-05 03:44 PM |
#5 |
| -
If we TRIPLED the payroll taxes on the rich, it still won't work |
googly |
Feb-10-05 04:03 PM |
#6 |
| -
The fact is there is already a 2 Trillion dollar surplus in the SS Trust |
Vincardog |
Feb-10-05 04:22 PM |
#7 |
| -
That "surplus" has ALREADY BEEN SPENT! |
googly |
Feb-10-05 08:55 PM |
#9 |
| -
It has been 'spent' on T Bills. T Bills mature and are paid off. |
Vincardog |
Feb-10-05 09:29 PM |
#13 |
| -
Have you looked into the "math" when boomers start retiring? |
googly |
Feb-11-05 02:13 PM |
#61 |
| -
I believe we can start by rolling back the trillions in tax cuts for the |
Vincardog |
Feb-11-05 04:49 PM |
#73 |
| -
Excuse me for being blunt, but you are missing my whole point |
googly |
Feb-11-05 08:09 PM |
#79 |
| -
excuse me Googly but YOU miss the point |
Vincardog |
Feb-11-05 08:23 PM |
#82 |
| -
If we can spend $500 billion per year on defense... |
kentuck |
Feb-11-05 08:26 PM |
#83 |
| -
Well Kentucky it looks that way. I believe some folks are |
Vincardog |
Feb-11-05 08:30 PM |
#85 |
| -
The money borrowed on the other Treasury notes has been spent also ! |
kentuck |
Feb-11-05 12:00 AM |
#23 |
| -
My basic point------------------> when the boomers are at peak of |
googly |
Feb-12-05 06:01 PM |
#93 |
| -
That is right wing SPIN |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 01:57 AM |
#29 |
| -
Are they going to tell the Japanese and the Chinese the same... |
kentuck |
Feb-11-05 02:03 AM |
#30 |
| -
I agree |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 02:06 AM |
#31 |
| -
You are correct... |
kentuck |
Feb-11-05 02:08 AM |
#32 |
| -
BIG BIG difference between external IOU's such as the Japanese |
googly |
Feb-11-05 08:29 PM |
#84 |
| -
That assumes there is more danger in external default than |
kentuck |
Feb-12-05 08:08 AM |
#89 |
| -
From social impact perspective you are right, but from practicality |
googly |
Feb-12-05 05:55 PM |
#92 |
| -
Social Security has given EVERY SURPLUS DOLLAR since 1940's |
googly |
Feb-11-05 08:17 PM |
#81 |
| -
Yes, they stole it fair and square and they don't want to pay it back. |
SharonAnn |
Feb-10-05 10:06 PM |
#17 |
| -
Raising the payroll tax ends the last GOP talking point - but without |
papau |
Feb-11-05 05:08 AM |
#38 |
| -
How about this idea to fix SS? |
Mich Otter |
Feb-12-05 06:20 PM |
#95 |
| -
That's a helluva interesting comment, Warpy.... |
kentuck |
Feb-10-05 11:58 PM |
#22 |
| -
It worked for 70 years - and the tax rates that it took to |
qwghlmian |
Feb-11-05 12:22 AM |
#24 |
| -
payroll rates were last raised fifteen years ago! |
flaminbats |
Feb-11-05 01:29 AM |
#25 |
| -
small correction |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-12-05 07:05 AM |
#88 |
| -
I think it's been a pretty damn good bargain... |
kentuck |
Feb-11-05 01:46 AM |
#26 |
| -
How much have wages fallen? |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 02:09 AM |
#33 |
| -
Let's see - |
qwghlmian |
Feb-11-05 11:34 AM |
#47 |
| -
Constant 1982 dollars |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 12:43 PM |
#53 |
| -
According to your .gov link, the average |
qwghlmian |
Feb-11-05 01:06 PM |
#56 |
| -
Not to be dense |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 03:51 PM |
#70 |
| -
From your link - |
qwghlmian |
Feb-11-05 04:35 PM |
#72 |
| -
Ooooh |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 08:08 PM |
#78 |
| -
They rates do NOT continue to rise, and do not need to rise |
papau |
Feb-11-05 05:12 AM |
#39 |
| -
RE: Sustainable tax rate. |
cattleman22 |
Feb-11-05 12:34 PM |
#50 |
| -
Now compare that to income level raises, please. What would |
DebJ |
Feb-11-05 06:26 AM |
#43 |
| -
In 1935, the cap was set at $3,000. |
qwghlmian |
Feb-11-05 10:58 AM |
#46 |
| -
Then why are the federal employees getting better returns on |
googly |
Feb-11-05 08:39 PM |
#87 |
| -
"first raise the earnings cap" |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-11-05 06:54 AM |
#44 |
| -
Chapter 8 "How Social Security Taxes Subsidize the Rich" in the book |
EVDebs |
Feb-12-05 06:09 PM |
#94 |
| -
I've heard only the top 1% is necessary |
Cocoa |
Feb-10-05 03:34 PM |
#2 |
| -
Even better if its only the top 1% but the MOST IMPORTANT |
googly |
Feb-10-05 03:37 PM |
#3 |
| -
I have a couple of links on the lockbox |
BlueInRed |
Feb-10-05 09:26 PM |
#12 |
| -
The LOCKBOX needs to be implemented SOON |
googly |
Feb-11-05 08:35 PM |
#86 |
| -
That's what I've heard, too. |
antiwarwarrior |
Feb-12-05 06:24 PM |
#96 |
| -
it already IS invested in a retirement fund |
unblock |
Feb-10-05 05:15 PM |
#8 |
| -
and where will the US Treasury get the CASH to pay it back |
googly |
Feb-10-05 08:59 PM |
#10 |
| -
"us treasuries" and "iou's" are the opposite ends of the spectrum |
unblock |
Feb-10-05 09:59 PM |
#16 |
| -
ROLL BACK THE TAX CUTS |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 02:09 AM |
#34 |
| -
as the poster papau has pointed out many times |
BlueInRed |
Feb-10-05 09:23 PM |
#11 |
| -
Yeah thanks, but this solution requires weaning the pols away from the |
googly |
Feb-10-05 09:39 PM |
#14 |
| -
Exactly, it's just too tempting n/t |
BlueInRed |
Feb-10-05 09:57 PM |
#15 |
| -
Government control of business |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 01:55 AM |
#28 |
| -
True - tight regulations will be needed to prevent "socially targeted |
papau |
Feb-11-05 05:16 AM |
#40 |
| -
You are correct BlueInRed, googly and I appear to agree that Trust selling |
papau |
Feb-11-05 04:54 AM |
#36 |
| -
Thanks for clarifying :) |
BlueInRed |
Feb-11-05 10:51 AM |
#45 |
| -
I don't think government should own private businesses. n/t |
cattleman22 |
Feb-11-05 12:35 PM |
#51 |
| -
Do you think Social Security should be privatized? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Feb-11-05 01:48 PM |
#59 |
| -
Bush's plan is the worst of both worlds. Too much government to be a |
cattleman22 |
Feb-11-05 02:34 PM |
#68 |
| -
It is doing it NOW in the federal employees retirement fund, and |
googly |
Feb-11-05 02:15 PM |
#62 |
| -
I still don't think government agencies should be able to do this. |
cattleman22 |
Feb-11-05 02:38 PM |
#69 |
| -
Except when you switch into personal accounts such as 403-b, 401-k |
googly |
Feb-11-05 07:10 PM |
#75 |
| -
Good point. n/t |
googly |
Feb-11-05 02:27 PM |
#66 |
| -
Walla! Problen solved! That idea is a keeper! |
Auntie Bush |
Feb-10-05 10:14 PM |
#18 |
| -
Can anyone answer this Libertarian SPIN and debate stopper ? |
T Bone |
Feb-10-05 10:20 PM |
#19 |
| -
Roosvelt demanded mandatory taxes |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 02:12 AM |
#35 |
| -
What SPIN - in 1935 the IRS was given the job of chosing a way to |
papau |
Feb-11-05 05:20 AM |
#41 |
| -
Roosevelt approved |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 12:52 PM |
#55 |
| -
Sorry - Roosevelt wanted everyone covered - but self employed and various |
papau |
Feb-11-05 01:23 PM |
#57 |
| -
Just not following |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 03:53 PM |
#71 |
| -
It may be past my time for my nap- as KO says - now what was the question? |
papau |
Feb-11-05 07:20 PM |
#77 |
| -
Ah, I see |
sandnsea |
Feb-11-05 08:10 PM |
#80 |
| -
Medicare is what needs to be addressed, not SS |
Muddy Waters Guitar |
Feb-10-05 10:54 PM |
#20 |
| -
Medicare faces greater peril because of medical inflation.. |
flaminbats |
Feb-10-05 11:19 PM |
#21 |
| -
"medical inflation" because of the capitalist insurance companies... |
kentuck |
Feb-11-05 01:48 AM |
#27 |
| -
True - medical care should not have a profit and CEO salary cost plus |
papau |
Feb-11-05 05:27 AM |
#42 |
| -
Medical Inflation is due to a variety of reasons |
cattleman22 |
Feb-11-05 12:38 PM |
#52 |
| -
Medicare is a whole another issue, but lets limit to SS here please |
googly |
Feb-11-05 02:18 PM |
#63 |
| -
Duh!!!!! That is what we should have been doing from the beginning! |
cidliz2004 |
Feb-11-05 11:39 AM |
#48 |
| -
Why don't they just raise the age to 80. |
sarcasmo |
Feb-11-05 11:42 AM |
#49 |
| -
hmm. i thought the only correct fix was |
MsTryska |
Feb-11-05 12:46 PM |
#54 |
| -
You are overlooking the fundamental problem, which is that |
googly |
Feb-11-05 02:25 PM |
#65 |
| -
well yeah, there's that too. |
MsTryska |
Feb-11-05 02:31 PM |
#67 |
| -
Yeah, the rich corporations can always pay more, but there is plenty |
googly |
Feb-11-05 07:14 PM |
#76 |
| -
My understanding of all this….. |
peterh |
Feb-11-05 01:39 PM |
#58 |
| -
I agree, and which is why my "fix" is better, it requires NO OUTFLOW |
googly |
Feb-11-05 02:22 PM |
#64 |
| -
"Logan's Run" |
txaslftist |
Feb-11-05 01:50 PM |
#60 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-11-05 05:00 PM |
#74 |
| -
NO CRISIS |
flounderinginflorida |
Feb-12-05 09:43 AM |
#90 |
| -
Um - you heard wrong. n/t |
qwghlmian |
Feb-12-05 10:35 AM |
#91 |
| -
Did you see Rockefeller is proposing rolling back the tax cuts? |
BlueInRed |
Feb-12-05 07:10 PM |
#97 |
Printer-friendly format
Email this thread to a friend
Bookmark this thread