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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 05:30 PM
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36. Bandera, Maybe That's Kerry's Reason: "It's Not So Bad"
Kerry doesn't get a pass on the Patriot Act with me.

He's gotten his pass on the war with others already, but the Patriot Act is simply Un-American.
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  -OK, Kerry Fans. What's JK's "Excuse" for Voting for the Patriot Act. David Zephyr  Jan-21-04 05:04 PM   #0 
  - After Dean's supporters can rationalize his support of the NRA  Neo Progressive   Jan-21-04 05:06 PM   #1 
  - Unartful Dodge by a Kerry Supporter. Please Stick to the Questions.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:07 PM   #3 
  - Dean doesn't support the NRA  adamrsilva   Jan-21-04 05:09 PM   # 
  - Adamrsilva, Notice How Kerry Supporters Are Trying to Change the Subject?  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:11 PM   #8 
  - Dean supports the NRA?  HFishbine   Jan-21-04 05:18 PM   #18 
  - What's Dean's excuse for not repealing it?  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:07 PM   #2 
  - Seeing as Dean has not been President, he has no authority to repeal it.  JVS   Jan-21-04 05:09 PM   #4 
  - He doesn't support repealing it  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:18 PM   #17 
     - At least Dean didn't make the mess. Kerry did.  JVS   Jan-21-04 05:21 PM   # 
     - What???  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:22 PM   #27 
        - I think it is lame for a candidate to help Bush along, creating messes...  JVS   Jan-21-04 05:30 PM   # 
           - See post #63  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:58 PM   #68 
     - Why did you ask why he hasn't repealed it?  JVS   Jan-21-04 05:46 PM   #59 
  - Another Kerry Supporter Without an Answer. This is Amazing.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:09 PM   #5 
  - Because it is necessary  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:21 PM   #23 
  - Don't be surprised  HawkeyeX   Jan-21-04 05:23 PM   #28 
     - Unbelievable  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:29 PM   #34 
        - Dude.  HawkeyeX   Jan-21-04 05:32 PM   #39 
           - Dudette  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:56 PM   #66 
  - How so?  dpstafford   Jan-21-04 05:09 PM   #6 
  - In his own words  HFishbine   Jan-21-04 05:20 PM   #22 
     - those parts  sandnsea   Jan-21-04 05:22 PM   #26 
        - Dean's words on civil liberties on 9/13/2001  sangha   Jan-21-04 05:52 PM   #63 
  - Even I'm tired of these discussions  adamrsilva   Jan-21-04 05:11 PM   #7 
  - Tired of Civil Liberties? And Your Wrong.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:13 PM   #10 
     - I was referring to Senators  adamrsilva   Jan-21-04 05:19 PM   #19 
     - you have an excellent point  cthrumatrix   Jan-23-04 04:29 PM   #133 
  - Edwards and Kerry say:  DjTj   Jan-21-04 05:13 PM   #9 
  - Thanks, DjTj. Makes ya wonder why people who have these burning questions  spooky3   Jan-21-04 05:14 PM   #11 
  - It's like playing whack-a-mole...  DjTj   Jan-21-04 05:18 PM   #16 
  - LOL!!!  spooky3   Jan-21-04 05:19 PM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-04 05:25 PM   #30 
     - Posting the candidates words is not disruption  sangha   Jan-21-04 05:53 PM   #64 
  - One major point ..to David Zephyr  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jan-21-04 05:36 PM   #47 
  - Aware of This.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:39 PM   #50 
  - No bill would have been better two weeks after 9/11?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jan-21-04 05:42 PM   #52 
     - Exactly, NSMA.  Old and In the Way   Jan-21-04 05:51 PM   #62 
     - And please how  sangha   Jan-21-04 05:55 PM   #65 
        - Careful...DZ is a close friend of mine  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jan-21-04 06:05 PM   #72 
           - No personal animosity here  sangha   Jan-21-04 06:30 PM   #81 
     - sorry, no bill is always better than a bad bill....  mike_c   Jan-21-04 09:23 PM   #128 
  - I didn't hear Americans clamoring for a crackdown on civil liberties  Terwilliger   Jan-21-04 06:34 PM   #84 
  - Actually that doesn't answer the question  Ramsey   Jan-21-04 07:43 PM   #112 
  - it contained some important tools to stop terrorism  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:16 PM   #12 
  - Kerry Voted for Sneak and Peak as You Call It.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:26 PM   #31 
     - and he's calling now for it to end  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:35 PM   #45 
  - It's called "Going with the Flow" David  Submariner   Jan-21-04 05:16 PM   #13 
  - Lives for votes.  bandera   Jan-21-04 05:20 PM   #21 
  - Sure Looks Like It,, Submariner  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:28 PM   #32 
     - Yes it is David  Submariner   Jan-21-04 05:33 PM   #41 
  - The "duh, I was misled." excuse is being replaced by "It's not so bad."  bandera   Jan-21-04 05:16 PM   #14 
  - did they ever say they were misled?  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:21 PM   #25 
  - Bandera, Maybe That's Kerry's Reason: "It's Not So Bad"  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:30 PM   #36 
  - So is it "Un-American" to question our civil liberties?  sangha   Jan-21-04 05:58 PM   #69 
     - It's Un-American to Strip Away Our Constitutional Rights.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:09 PM   #99 
        - Yes, it was un-american of Dean to call for a review of the Bill of Rights  sangha   Jan-21-04 09:10 PM   #127 
  - Re: I'm really, really, stupid  isbister   Jan-21-04 05:34 PM   #43 
  - Here's the excuses I've read over the past year...  killbotfactory   Jan-21-04 05:17 PM   #15 
  - What is Dean's excuse for questioning the Bill of Rights?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jan-21-04 05:21 PM   #24 
  - Yep, the "Dean said,,," defense.  killbotfactory   Jan-21-04 05:24 PM   #29 
  - Exactly. This Thread is About John Kerry Voting for the Patriot Act.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:33 PM   #42 
  - "un-American?"  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:42 PM   #53 
  - Nope. Looks like YOU bring up Dean in your original post  blm   Jan-21-04 05:42 PM   #54 
  - I apologize if my point went over your head.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jan-21-04 06:04 PM   #70 
  - Yes,  LibertyChick   Jan-21-04 05:29 PM   #33 
  - what was he thinking?  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:29 PM   #35 
  - What makes you think Dean wouldn't have voted for it?  blm   Jan-21-04 05:30 PM   #37 
  - Why Did Kerry Vote For It?  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:35 PM   #46 
     - Parts of the Patriot Act are useful.  blm   Jan-21-04 05:40 PM   #51 
     - Sorry, but your power to limit the discussion to only the topic you choose  Feanorcurufinwe   Jan-21-04 06:06 PM   #73 
  - There are 99 other Senators you could also ask that question.  paulk   Jan-21-04 05:30 PM   #38 
  - Thank you , paulk.  LibertyChick   Jan-21-04 05:34 PM   #44 
  - You Justify Kerry's Vote for "Political" Reasons? Wow!  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:37 PM   #49 
     - Politics! From a U.S. Senator! I am shocked, shocked!!  library_max   Jan-21-04 05:45 PM   #58 
     - no, we didn't lose all those things  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:49 PM   #61 
  - To disrespect Kerry on this is to disrespect many many liberals  George_Bonanza   Jan-21-04 05:32 PM   #40 
  - We should not elect cowards to the Presidency  IndianaGreen   Jan-21-04 06:28 PM   #79 
     - ouch....I don't think he's a coward....  cthrumatrix   Jan-23-04 04:46 PM   #134 
  - Kerry sure does have some explaining to do!  Dancing_Dave   Jan-21-04 05:37 PM   #48 
  - Yes, He Does, Dancin' Dave.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:44 PM   #56 
  - Well, this is just a theory, but  library_max   Jan-21-04 05:43 PM   #55 
  - He Didn't Write It, But He Voted For It, Making It the Law of the Land.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 05:45 PM   #57 
     - No.  library_max   Jan-21-04 05:46 PM   #60 
  - you're getting a lot of good answers here  Cocoa   Jan-21-04 05:58 PM   #67 
  - The Only Answers I've Received From Kerry Supporters Were  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 06:06 PM   #74 
     - They SUNSETTED parts. Kerry sent up legislation  blm   Jan-21-04 06:17 PM   #76 
     - But that isn't a fair assessment of my response  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jan-21-04 06:19 PM   #77 
     - Answer.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 06:41 PM   #85 
        - Grade: Incomplete  sangha   Jan-21-04 06:57 PM   #89 
           - The Patriot Act is Un-American.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:05 PM   #96 
              - Take a deep breath  sangha   Jan-21-04 08:41 PM   #119 
     - Explain to me why you haven't stopped beating your wife.  library_max   Jan-21-04 06:33 PM   #82 
     - Wow. Who Would Have Known the Patriot Act Would Be So Sore A Subject?  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:00 PM   #91 
        - Read it again, Sam. Try to get the point this time.  library_max   Jan-21-04 07:04 PM   #94 
     - You might try reading your own thread  sangha   Jan-21-04 06:34 PM   #83 
  - IMO, there is no excuse for the PATRIOT Act  sangha   Jan-21-04 06:04 PM   #71 
  - It was after 9-11 and there was widespread hysteria  liberalpragmatist   Jan-21-04 06:07 PM   #75 
  - After the 1933 Reichstag fire, there was widespread hysteria  IndianaGreen   Jan-21-04 06:25 PM   #78 
     - Thank You, Very Much!  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 06:28 PM   #80 
        - Yet your outrage is limited  blm   Jan-21-04 07:10 PM   #100 
           - And no response from the one who is concerned about civil liberties  sangha   Jan-21-04 08:45 PM   #121 
  - Patriot Act Vote - 99-1  kerryistheanswer   Jan-21-04 06:48 PM   #86 
  - This is Not a "Ridiculous Thread".  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 06:57 PM   #88 
     - Yes, it is a ridiculous thread  sangha   Jan-21-04 06:58 PM   #90 
  - Clark: "I don't support the PATRIOT Act!"  IndianaGreen   Jan-21-04 06:56 PM   #87 
  - Well, Kudos for General Wesley Clark.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:02 PM   #92 
  - Who supports the Patriot Act? This is totally ridiculous  kerryistheanswer   Jan-21-04 07:05 PM   #95 
  - Any Democrat that takes my civil liberties away is not "decent"  IndianaGreen   Jan-21-04 07:12 PM   # 
  - OK I'll trade you one Patriot Act for one SOA defense  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jan-21-04 07:08 PM   #98 
  - I Could Never Be Angry With You.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:12 PM   #101 
     - OK so we do we use that same litmus test on every other senator as well?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jan-21-04 07:26 PM   #107 
        - Dean's Statements Hardly Approach the Measures of the P.A.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:41 PM   #111 
           - Dean's statement - I haven't gotten that far yet. "  sangha   Jan-21-04 08:48 PM   #123 
  - Interesting.  library_max   Jan-21-04 07:16 PM   #104 
  - Good for Clark. My doubts about him are diminishing.  bandera   Jan-21-04 07:03 PM   #93 
  - What Would Have Been Refreshing Here Would Have Been...  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:08 PM   #97 
  - Why don't you start?  library_max   Jan-21-04 07:12 PM   #102 
  - I Have.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:14 PM   #103 
     - What was wrong with Dean's "confederate flag" comments?  library_max   Jan-21-04 07:18 PM   #105 
        - Not Pertinent to This Thread.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:21 PM   #106 
           - Ahhh. Do as I say, not as I do.  library_max   Jan-21-04 07:27 PM   #108 
           - Dean's statement on civil rights post9-11 is relevant  blm   Jan-23-04 04:01 PM   #132 
  - WTF?  liberalpragmatist   Jan-21-04 07:50 PM   #113 
  - Answer.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 08:28 PM   #117 
  - Keep telling yourself that  sangha   Jan-21-04 08:54 PM   #125 
  - Nearly all of the congess voted for it!  wheresthemind   Jan-21-04 07:31 PM   #109 
  - Are You Saying that Kerry Didn't Read the Patriot Act Before He Voted?  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 07:36 PM   #110 
  - I did my term paper on the Patriot Act  wheresthemind   Jan-21-04 07:50 PM   #114 
  - They should all be fired for sheer incompetence  IndianaGreen   Jan-21-04 07:52 PM   #115 
     - What do you think most of the constituents would have said at the time?  wheresthemind   Jan-21-04 07:58 PM   #116 
     - Exactly.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-04 08:30 PM   #118 
  - Some 'splainin'  bigtree   Jan-21-04 08:41 PM   #120 
  - No excuse is acceptable  kenzee13   Jan-21-04 08:46 PM   #122 
  - You are right  sangha   Jan-21-04 08:51 PM   #124 
  - Paul Wellstone voted for it  bigtree   Jan-21-04 08:56 PM   #126 
  - I'll bite  ldoolin   Jan-21-04 10:02 PM   #130 
     - Paul Wellstone  bigtree   Jan-22-04 11:04 AM   #131 
  - he sees it as needed to fight terrorism  JI7   Jan-21-04 09:26 PM   #129 
     - what's the expiration date?  drfemoe   Jan-24-04 11:42 AM   #135 
 

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