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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 08:41 PM
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61. There's part of your problem. You are assuming that we are criticizing
Dean because of the media. This has nothing to do with the media.

I don't need the media to tell me that Dean ranted and screamed, because I watched this thing live. Did you? Somehow, I doubt that you did because your mischaracterization of the events is extensive. This certainly wasn't about a "weird noise"; it was about a several-minute rant where Dean screamed and yelled and looked like he was going to burst a blood vessel.

My opinion of Dean's actions was based on personal observation. If you honestly believe that what he did was good for his campaign, wait another day or two and look at the polls in NH. There are already signs that it is going to cost him dearly.

Lastly, quit blaming the media for this and quit assuming that the rest of us are forming our opinions based on the media coverage of this event. Many of us watched this unfold live and have the exact same opinion now that we had before there was one iota of media coverage.
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  -We need to act like adults Mass_Liberal  Jan-21-04 04:50 PM   #0 
  - IMO, it was a lot more then a "loud noise"...  ColdnGrey   Jan-21-04 04:51 PM   #1 
  - I hope that you jest  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 04:55 PM   #10 
     - It was much more then the yell...  ColdnGrey   Jan-21-04 04:56 PM   #13 
     - plus he lost in his first time in front of the voters  bearfartinthewoods   Jan-21-04 06:00 PM   #41 
     - Bush also wanted to "put food on our families"  kanrok   Jan-21-04 05:05 PM   #25 
  - Are you 14?  maxr4clark   Jan-21-04 04:52 PM   #2 
  - yes  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 04:52 PM   #4 
  - maturity has no age  Iverson   Jan-21-04 05:18 PM   #33 
  - Cool!  maxr4clark   Jan-21-04 06:13 PM   #45 
     - I'm sorry  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 06:18 PM   #46 
  - good for you, mass, if you are!  spooky3   Jan-21-04 04:53 PM   #5 
  - no problem  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 04:55 PM   #11 
  - Apparently so.  NewYorkerfromMass   Jan-21-04 04:54 PM   #7 
     - my apologies  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 04:57 PM   #14 
        - Apologies back  NewYorkerfromMass   Jan-21-04 05:14 PM   #30 
           - I'm from Newton  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 05:22 PM   #35 
  - I sympathize with the desire  Dookus   Jan-21-04 04:52 PM   #3 
  - Let's just be glad it happened early on  XanthaS   Jan-21-04 04:54 PM   #9 
  - Christ, it's another Bushevik non-issue  tom_paine   Jan-21-04 04:55 PM   #12 
  - But how will Clark  dave29   Jan-21-04 05:08 PM   #27 
     - he doesn't need to get past them...  Dookus   Jan-21-04 05:15 PM   #31 
  - How can you act like an adult...  Democrats unite   Jan-21-04 04:54 PM   #6 
  - wow!!!  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 04:58 PM   #15 
     - Not being sarcastic here...  Democrats unite   Jan-21-04 05:03 PM   #24 
        - Something to be said for "mental age"  POed_Ex_Repub   Jan-21-04 05:12 PM   #29 
        - ok then  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 05:23 PM   #36 
  - Its not just a weird noise...  waylon   Jan-21-04 04:54 PM   #8 
  - Bullsh*t  tom_paine   Jan-21-04 04:58 PM   #16 
  - Sure, we've all done things we regretted, but we're not...  boxster   Jan-21-04 04:59 PM   #21 
  - You blame the media, I expect more from a candidate  waylon   Jan-21-04 05:11 PM   #28 
  - do you know  dymaxia   Jan-22-04 10:05 AM   #69 
  - This IS a substantive issue, if you're trying to determine the best  boxster   Jan-21-04 04:58 PM   #17 
  - him making a noise or a yell  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 05:24 PM   #38 
     - Excuse me, Mass_Liberal. Weird noise was YOUR characterization, not mine.  boxster   Jan-21-04 06:39 PM   #50 
        - what I meant was  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 07:03 PM   #52 
        - Sure, believe that all you want.  boxster   Jan-21-04 07:40 PM   #58 
        - If presidential  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 07:04 PM   #53 
           - No, presidential means not looking like a ranting lunatic.  boxster   Jan-21-04 07:45 PM   #59 
  - Wisdom beyond your years  Adjoran   Jan-21-04 04:58 PM   #18 
  - I do like Dean since I first saw him years ago. But,,,,,  izzie   Jan-21-04 04:59 PM   #19 
  - But isn't this a time when people are looking for a real alternative?  ouija_board   Jan-21-04 05:18 PM   #32 
     - Larrikinism  dreissig   Jan-21-04 06:57 PM   #51 
     - Precisely.  BearFlagDemocrat   Jan-21-04 07:25 PM   #56 
  - Don't you understand that making noises is a serious issue?  JVS   Jan-21-04 04:59 PM   #20 
  - "people here are acting like babies."  salinen   Jan-21-04 05:01 PM   #22 
     - War is not a serious issue?  JVS   Jan-21-04 05:18 PM   #34 
  - Give it up DU has given up all hope  lastknowngood   Jan-21-04 05:02 PM   #23 
  - It will pass....  lucidmadman   Jan-21-04 05:07 PM   #26 
  - Thankfully, 14 year olds can't vote. nt  45th Med   Jan-21-04 05:24 PM   #37 
  - hmmm  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 05:26 PM   #39 
     - There is a reason why there are age limits.  45th Med   Jan-21-04 06:24 PM   #48 
        - well  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 06:32 PM   #49 
           - Believe me, when you get older....  45th Med   Jan-21-04 07:10 PM   #54 
           - I believe that your post  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 07:19 PM   #55 
              - There's part of your problem. You are assuming that we are criticizing  boxster   Jan-21-04 08:41 PM   #61 
                 - I believe that you will make your own opinion  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 09:24 PM   #65 
                    - I agree - of course they will show the worst parts of the speech.  boxster   Jan-21-04 09:44 PM   #68 
           - Mass_Liberal  texasmom   Jan-21-04 08:52 PM   #62 
              - thanks a lot  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 09:22 PM   #64 
                 - history n/t  texasmom   Jan-21-04 09:26 PM   #66 
                    - sweet  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 09:31 PM   #67 
  - it matters, it has impact, the world is focused on it pretty big  meow mix   Jan-21-04 05:49 PM   #40 
  - Weird noise?  onecitzenBtrayed   Jan-21-04 06:01 PM   #42 
  - it was pretty wierd  meow mix   Jan-21-04 06:20 PM   #47 
  - EVERYONE is talking about it  Woodstock   Jan-21-04 06:05 PM   #43 
  - The media has taken to acting like jackasses  redqueen   Jan-21-04 06:06 PM   #44 
  - Overcoming the 'I Have A Scream' speech  draftcaroline   Jan-21-04 07:33 PM   #57 
  - kick  Mass_Liberal   Jan-21-04 08:28 PM   #60 
     - hey Mass Liberal  windansea   Jan-21-04 09:02 PM   #63 

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