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greenohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:57 AM
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54. Depends on what the definition of "is" is. In the end it is all about the
war. You are liberal if you are against the war. Dean wasn't truly against war in Iraq. He himself said, it was the way we went about it, very similar to has been posted on board. He just used the anit-war crowd to get groupies....who obviously still hang on.

I really do hope Dean gets chair of the DNC. I think he will do the party good. He can no longer claim this outsider garbage. He will have to make real choices, exposing his true leanings. I also think the "hate Dems" crowd will realize he isn't god almighty. They already defend DFA's funding of DLCers.
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  -Is Dean really all that liberal? amjucsc  Jan-11-05 02:32 PM   #0 
  - no, not particularly  GreenArrow   Jan-11-05 02:33 PM   #1 
  - Dean says he's to the right of Bush economically.  genius   Jan-11-05 03:00 PM   #32 
     - LOL, and your personal grudge against Dean never ends  Cheswick2.0   Jan-11-05 03:16 PM   #39 
     - I'm not real fond of "fiscal conservatives" in general  GreenArrow   Jan-11-05 04:13 PM   #49 
  - Depends  sellitman   Jan-11-05 02:34 PM   #2 
  - I suggest you check their records and try again.  blm   Jan-11-05 02:44 PM   #23 
  - Well, he's progressive.  henslee   Jan-11-05 02:34 PM   #3 
  - no, he is REgressive  eg101   Jan-11-05 02:38 PM   #13 
  - self deleted.  brainshrub   Jan-11-05 02:56 PM   #31 
  - Quite unfair to cite that "last gasp" quote which is 10 yrs old and two  henslee   Jan-11-05 03:08 PM   #34 
  - Quoting the Int'l Socialist Review??  Capn Sunshine   Jan-11-05 03:43 PM   #42 
     - You have a problem with Socialism?  greenohio   Jan-12-05 10:52 AM   #53 
  - Yes, but he's no lefty  Warpy   Jan-11-05 02:46 PM   #27 
  - It was the media who wanted to lump Dean as an anti=war lefty  WI_DEM   Jan-11-05 02:34 PM   #4 
  - It was the media that kept calling him ultra liberal  Downtown Hound   Jan-11-05 02:34 PM   #5 
  - For the most part, Dean seems to be a social Liberal and a ...  BattyDem   Jan-11-05 02:35 PM   #6 
  - he is an extreme RIGHTwing on economic welfare state policy  eg101   Jan-11-05 02:37 PM   #12 
     - Quoting the Int' Socialist Review? Again?  Capn Sunshine   Jan-11-05 03:45 PM   #43 
        - kerry is definitely a conservative--economically speaking n/t  eg101   Jan-11-05 03:49 PM   #44 
  - No, and he never claimed to be.  Cuban_Liberal   Jan-11-05 02:35 PM   #7 
  - That's my feeling too--he doesn't get bogged down in policy stances.  mistertrickster   Jan-11-05 02:43 PM   #22 
  - He comes from the northeast  Mojambo   Jan-11-05 02:35 PM   #8 
  - LOL, only liberals live in the northeast. Really? nt  crispini   Jan-11-05 02:42 PM   #20 
  - Absolutely correct N/T  mmcghenn   Jan-11-05 02:55 PM   #30 
  - He didn't support universal healthcare and the media painted him to be  blm   Jan-11-05 02:36 PM   #9 
  - better than the rest, articulate and fiesty  yurbud   Jan-11-05 02:36 PM   #10 
  - I'm with you...He IS better than the rest...  naryaquid   Jan-11-05 02:46 PM   #26 
  - he didn't support universal healthcare  eg101   Jan-11-05 02:36 PM   #11 
  - As I Recall  ribofunk   Jan-11-05 02:39 PM   #14 
  - Funny  Upfront   Jan-11-05 02:43 PM   #21 
  - codswallop.  cali   Jan-11-05 03:05 PM   #33 
  - DlC, Rethug, And Media  Upfront   Jan-11-05 02:40 PM   #15 
  - Never figured him out. Love is like the primaries never ended  madfloridian   Jan-11-05 02:40 PM   #16 
  - Good post.  greenohio   Jan-12-05 10:58 AM   #55 
  - He tells the truth  Generator   Jan-11-05 02:41 PM   #17 
  - He's that b.s. "progressive" label that's pissing me off.  Krupskaya   Jan-11-05 02:41 PM   #18 
  - strong opposition to Iraq (which isn't a particularly liberal position"  Zensea   Jan-11-05 02:41 PM   #19 
  - THIS IS DEAD WRONG !!!  welshTerrier2   Jan-12-05 11:12 AM   #57 
  - He can  sellitman   Jan-11-05 02:44 PM   #24 
  - The liberal media said he was a radical liberal lunatic  IronLionZion   Jan-11-05 02:45 PM   #25 
  - that would be from the republican media machine  LSK   Jan-11-05 02:51 PM   #28 
  - No, but I wish he were.  brainshrub   Jan-11-05 02:53 PM   #29 
  - My take is that he is populist moderate.  NCevilDUer   Jan-11-05 03:11 PM   #35 
  - He's not, but he's not a centrist either...  txaslftist   Jan-11-05 03:11 PM   #36 
  - Yes he is liberal....  Cheswick2.0   Jan-11-05 03:13 PM   #37 
  - Depends on what the definition of "is" is. In the end it is all about the  greenohio   Jan-12-05 10:57 AM   #54 
  - The media labelled him as liberal  mandyky   Jan-11-05 03:15 PM   #38 
  - the media loves to label economic rightwingers as "liberal"  eg101   Jan-11-05 03:51 PM   #45 
  - The people who continue to state that Dean misrepresented himself  ibegurpard   Jan-11-05 03:20 PM   #40 
  - why would we want a moderate unless WE are moderates?  eg101   Jan-11-05 03:56 PM   #46 
     - I'm sorry, can you point to the part in my post  ibegurpard   Jan-11-05 04:00 PM   # 
  - I posted about this the DLC's words.  madfloridian   Jan-11-05 03:42 PM   #41 
  - Sheesh!  x_y_no   Jan-11-05 03:58 PM   #47 
  - Yes, Dean bashing one day, Clark the got it! LOL  madfloridian   Jan-11-05 04:00 PM   #48 
  - No, but he has a backbone--  eridani   Jan-12-05 05:49 AM   #50 
  - No, he isn't.  LynnTheDem   Jan-12-05 06:24 AM   #51 
  - Depends on who is measuring  CWebster   Jan-12-05 06:29 AM   #52 
  - Dean stands for opening up politics  NoPasaran   Jan-12-05 11:10 AM   #56 
  - He isn't  youngred   Jan-12-05 11:31 AM   #58 
  - Dean's a reformer. He's a kick in the ass for a party that needs it..  BlueManDude   Jan-12-05 11:31 AM   #59 
  - Dean is not to be labeled, he's a free thinker not an ideologue.  mzmolly   Jan-12-05 11:33 AM   #60 
     - Does that apply to all, or just Dean?  greenohio   Jan-12-05 11:34 AM   #61 
        - That applies to all who are NOT ideologues. But the thread is about Dean  mzmolly   Jan-12-05 11:40 AM   #62 
           - It is. I'm just trying to figure out where your coming from.  greenohio   Jan-12-05 11:41 AM   #63 
              - It depends on who you ask does it not?  mzmolly   Jan-12-05 11:54 AM   #64 
                 - No. Its moderate, in my eyes.  greenohio   Jan-12-05 12:05 PM   #65 
                    - Again, it's all a matter of personal values. I considered Wellstone a  mzmolly   Jan-12-05 12:17 PM   #66 

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