Reply #51: progress ??

[welshTerrier2]

let me first say that i did NOT watch the hearings yesterday ... i couldn't because i just can't handle any more disappointment and expected virtually nothing from the Democratic Party ...

i also think your response was very different from what you wrote in the base post ... i thought your initial point was to focus on a very wide range of issues ... here you've only focussed on yesterday's election fraud discussions ... and my response to you covered far more than just election fraud ...

you asked in your initial post about what seems to you like daily flip-flopping by many DU'ers ... the point i tried to make is that there are deep, long-term divides between what the party does and what many of us believe ... i think the alienation has finally hit the boiling point ... this is a long-term evolution not a whimsical, erratic flipping and flopping ... the Democratic Party is in very big trouble and frankly i don't think they realize it ...

finally, to address the issue of "progress" you raised ... perhaps it is indeed a good thing that more Democrats stood up to make the case than stood up in 2000 ... perhaps we can call this progress ... it's a nice "glass is half full" way of looking at events ... but will Americans awaken today with the belief that Democrats are up in arms that this election was stolen ?? will the actions of yesterday make it clear to Americans that the Democratic Party, in lockstep, is making the case that bush and the neo-cons cheated and that they refuse to recognize him as a valid president ?? it's not an all or nothing situation here ... i've seen many DU posts applauding the great courage of Barbara Boxer and others who stood and fought for us ... the "punishment" is not for them; it's for those who hid and said nothing ...

if you want to see the real position of the Democratic Party on yesterday's hearings and the broad issue of election fraud, go to the source ... here you go: http://www.democrats.org/ ... the home page of the Democratic National Committee ... the truth is, election fraud is NOT EVEN MENTIONED ... what does that tell you about the "progress" they seek on this issue ???