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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #97
104. Because the DeLay sleaze is not redistricting.
It was using underhanded and possibly outright illegal tactics to do it. That is what Dems are calling sleazy. Gerrymandering is an accepted practice if done with in legal constraints. Using corporate money in Texas state politics is illegal. UsingHomeland Security assets to track legal citizens is sleazy and likely illegal. To compare this slimeball to legal acting Dems is outright ridiculous on your part. if you seek a change in the Constitution, say so and don't characterize dems as being as sleazy as DeLay in this instance.
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  -TEXAS REDISTRICTING: Texas Dems Just As Sleazy as Tom DeLay? ulTRAX  Jan-04-05 09:29 PM   #0 
  - You've only repeated DeLay's arguement, that's what he said.  dogman   Jan-04-05 09:36 PM   #1 
  - correct  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 09:39 PM   #2 
  - Exactly  Not_Giving_Up   Jan-04-05 09:42 PM   #3 
  - is there any law?  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 09:55 PM   #8 
     - we've never done the same  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 09:57 PM   #9 
     - "I suspect that if the shoe was on the other foot...Dems would be hollerin  tx_dem41   Jan-04-05 10:04 PM   #12 
     - I guess you haven't read........  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:57 PM   #30 
     - It's called gerrymandering  NV Whino   Jan-04-05 11:45 PM   #39 
     - There is really no law against gerrymandering  hughee99   Jan-05-05 12:55 PM   #64 
     - You are one Delirious writer. Texas becomes a Minority majority  Melissa G   Jan-05-05 10:57 PM   #131 
  - I think the point of redistricting is....  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 09:44 PM   #4 
  - I'm not going to unilaterally disarm  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 09:46 PM   #5 
  - OK... just don't claim.......  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:29 PM   #18 
     - that's crap  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 10:38 PM   #23 
        - what's crap?  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:46 PM   #25 
           - the answer is fighting fire with fire  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 10:50 PM   #28 
              - of all the weapons in your arsenal  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 11:14 PM   #33 
                 - truth is great  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 11:22 PM   #34 
  - How can you claim the districts were gerrymandered...  tx_dem41   Jan-04-05 09:51 PM   #7 
  - I was just quoting.....  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:35 PM   #20 
  - Yet we are told to accept that Dems voted for Bush?  dogman   Jan-04-05 09:59 PM   #10 
  - yeah, but the way I understand it. the courts redraw the districts  okieinpain   Jan-04-05 10:33 PM   #19 
  - Agree ultrax  Yupster   Jan-04-05 11:36 PM   #36 
  - computers are the problem  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 11:50 AM   #52 
  - I don't know that gerrymandering is immoral  Slickriddles   Jan-05-05 10:17 PM   #120 
  - Seriously, Illinois has a GOP majority in its congressional delegation  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-05 10:37 PM   #21 
     - Not anymore we don't  TedsGarage   Jan-04-05 11:02 PM   #31 
        - Didn't know that, still it's definately not proportional...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-05-05 03:49 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-05 09:48 PM   #6 
  - nice try, no cigar  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:10 PM   #14 
     - As you admit...1992 is a horrible year to use especially ...since  tx_dem41   Jan-04-05 10:13 PM   #15 
        - you're not making your case  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:23 PM   #17 
           - Yet those same "gerrymandered" districts were voting  tx_dem41   Jan-05-05 05:27 AM   #44 
              - if you ignore 1992  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 02:42 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-05 10:03 PM   #11 
  - before you call me simplistic..........  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:38 PM   #22 
  - How could the legislature redistrict  Yupster   Jan-04-05 11:42 PM   #38 
     - the state senate is part of the legislature  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 11:46 PM   #40 
  - In addition to all else said...  punpirate   Jan-04-05 10:08 PM   #13 
  - you're ignoring 1990 redistricting  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:19 PM   #16 
     - No, your real topic was the possibility...  punpirate   Jan-04-05 10:50 PM   #27 
     - you confuse an introduction with the topic  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 11:12 PM   #32 
        - On your last point...  punpirate   Jan-04-05 11:30 PM   #35 
     - 1990 redistricting  DaveinMD   Jan-04-05 10:52 PM   #29 
     - Why are you harping on this now?  Andromeda   Jan-04-05 11:42 PM   #37 
     - context  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 12:00 PM   #54 
        - the poster you responded to  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 12:40 PM   #63 
        - the facts are........  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 02:35 PM   #68 
           - what are you talking about  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 02:42 PM   #70 
              - you're blind to the possibility........  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 05:20 PM   #94 
                 - you really have no concept how politics works  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 07:50 PM   #109 
        - WERE you THERE ulTRAX?  Melissa G   Jan-05-05 11:03 PM   #134 
     - Again, for the intellectually challenged: Redistricting occurs once every  TankLV   Jan-05-05 10:24 PM   #122 
        - thank you very much  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 11:06 PM   #135 
  - Absolutely! Neither major party wants reform that threatens two party lock  eallen   Jan-04-05 10:43 PM   #24 
  - BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ulTRAX   Jan-04-05 10:49 PM   #26 
  - It's a good thing you're not teaching anyone political science  Texas_Kat   Jan-04-05 11:47 PM   #41 
  - You Texas folks are more on top of this than I am, but  NV Whino   Jan-05-05 12:05 AM   #42 
  - that is the main point  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 12:12 AM   #43 
  - Can you point to the law that makes it illegal?  eallen   Jan-05-05 07:59 AM   #45 
  - There is no law making what DeLay did illegal  DebinTx   Jan-05-05 08:18 AM   #47 
  - What you're saying is true  ginbarn   Jan-05-05 10:12 AM   #48 
  - have a cite?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 12:09 PM   #55 
     - So  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 12:35 PM   #60 
  - my concern is fair representation  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 11:55 AM   #53 
  - Yes, the party in power tends to want to stay in power.  Bridget Burke   Jan-05-05 08:09 AM   #46 
  - I think the real problem is  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 11:47 AM   #51 
     - Wouldn't it be nice to simply say that  lastliberalintexas   Jan-05-05 12:23 PM   #57 
     - except that  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 03:02 PM   #73 
        - One principle to live by is to think of the consequences of your actions  DaedelusNemo   Jan-05-05 03:46 PM   #80 
        - Where did I say anything  lastliberalintexas   Jan-05-05 04:50 PM   #86 
     - The issue of this thread--started by you--  Bridget Burke   Jan-05-05 12:39 PM   #62 
  - Thanks for repeating repuke talking points in here.  Bouncy Ball   Jan-05-05 10:52 AM   #49 
  - am I a Naderite?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 11:42 AM   #50 
  - Excellent  Nederland   Jan-05-05 12:10 PM   #56 
  - in the current environment  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 12:37 PM   #61 
  - Aw, poor babies  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 12:28 PM   #58 
  - Oh one more thing  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 12:30 PM   #59 
  - I can't expect.......  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 02:53 PM   #71 
     - You want to be principal?  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 05:15 PM   #89 
  - "70% of the seats with only 50% of the vote?" Is that so unusual?  fob   Jan-05-05 01:11 PM   #65 
  - interesting math  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 02:30 PM   #67 
     - I'll answer your questions, and hopefully you will answer mine  fob   Jan-05-05 05:17 PM   #91 
        - continued - maxed out on last post!  fob   Jan-05-05 05:19 PM   #93 
        - here's an experiment  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 06:23 PM   #105 
  - We should have never stolen Texas from Mexico! n/t  Vinnie From Indy   Jan-05-05 01:38 PM   #66 
  - You didn't  NoPasaran   Jan-05-05 03:57 PM   #83 
     - LOL I stand Corrected  Vinnie From Indy   Jan-05-05 05:35 PM   #98 
  - What a crock of Naderite BS  txaslftist   Jan-05-05 02:59 PM   #72 
  - translation  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 03:05 PM   #74 
     - or maybe it simpler for you to say  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 03:13 PM   #75 
     - Thank ya, Dave.  txaslftist   Jan-05-05 03:23 PM   #76 
     - no problem  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 03:25 PM   #77 
     - of the two of us  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 04:42 PM   #85 
        - I'm not going to unilaterally disarm  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 07:52 PM   #110 
     - Yes  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 03:34 PM   #78 
     - Oh... I get it now!!!!!  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 05:09 PM   #88 
        - You sit at home and think about visions  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 05:18 PM   # 
        - Gettin' Deja Vu here n/t  Slickriddles   Jan-05-05 10:47 PM   #129 
     - It's NOT stealing, either!  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 03:46 PM   #79 
        - YEEEHAW....  txaslftist   Jan-05-05 03:56 PM   #82 
           - Out of curiosity  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 04:36 PM   #84 
              - No kidding...  txaslftist   Jan-05-05 04:52 PM   #87 
              - please learn to read  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 05:16 PM   #90 
              - Not a freeper?  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 05:21 PM   #95 
              - If it walks like a duck, & quacks like a duck , & looks like a duck...  TankLV   Jan-05-05 10:34 PM   #125 
              - Especially when the poster ignores the sleaze factor (DeLay's tactics)  dogman   Jan-05-05 05:18 PM   #92 
                 - I'm not ignoring DeLay  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 05:26 PM   #97 
                    - What you're DOING  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 05:39 PM   #99 
                    - gee... one day and you're an expert  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 05:48 PM   #102 
                       - My oh my  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 06:56 PM   #107 
                          - you are the good Democrat  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 07:54 PM   #111 
                          - Gee Dave  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 09:22 PM   #113 
                          - wrong  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 09:50 PM   #116 
                          - You go Dave  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 09:27 PM   #114 
                             - exactly  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 09:57 PM   #117 
                          - what next... Dem Brown Shirts?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 09:10 PM   #112 
                             - Read it again  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 09:30 PM   #115 
                                - did the GOP goons do anything illegal in 2000?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 10:41 PM   #127 
                    - Because the DeLay sleaze is not redistricting.  dogman   Jan-05-05 05:50 PM   #104 
                       - why were the Dems really mad?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 10:29 PM   #123 
  - I agree, both parties are sleeze. I would like to see  napi21   Jan-05-05 05:22 PM   #96 
  - You can't do that unless  lastliberalintexas   Jan-05-05 05:42 PM   #101 
  - Democrats To Try DeLay Redistricting?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 05:41 PM   #100 
  - Sure, its OK  MisterLiberal   Jan-05-05 05:50 PM   #103 
  - You want to know what side I'm on?  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 06:30 PM   #106 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-05-05 06:59 PM   #108 
        - let's put your accusation to the test  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 10:03 PM   #118 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-05-05 10:06 PM   #119 
              - You go Dave!  TankLV   Jan-05-05 10:42 PM   #128 
  - the threat needs to be out there  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 10:31 PM   #124 
     - please make sense  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 10:57 PM   #132 
        - Dems did not go nuclear  DaveinMD   Jan-05-05 11:01 PM   #133 
  - It's much easier in North Dakota  TheFarseer   Jan-05-05 10:21 PM   #121 
  - F**k off! The Republicans are without any doubt the sleaziest, greediest  leesa   Jan-05-05 10:34 PM   #126 
  - Tom DeLay's plan looks like the Democrat's 1990 plan in reverse  ulTRAX   Jan-05-05 10:50 PM   #130 
     - Clearly Lies...  Melissa G   Jan-05-05 11:11 PM   #136 
  - I'm locking this thread  Moderator   Jan-05-05 11:48 PM   #137 
 

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