ulTRAX
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Wed Jan-05-05 03:05 PM
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txaslftist wrote: "What a crock of Naderite BS. Trying to adhere to some principle that the law does not require and that the other side patently ignores so we can lose more seats 'but hold on to our -ie, Ralph Nader's- principles'. Wake up. You ain't in Texas, you probably ain't from Texas so you don't get it. Attack from ambush has a long and distinguished history here. You don't take a knife to a gunfight, idjit."
Translation: you're glad Dems stole seats in Texas by Gerrymandering the state in 1990.
Isn't that easier to say?
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| -TEXAS REDISTRICTING: Texas Dems Just As Sleazy as Tom DeLay? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 09:29 PM |
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You've only repeated DeLay's arguement, that's what he said. |
dogman |
Jan-04-05 09:36 PM |
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correct |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 09:39 PM |
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Exactly |
Not_Giving_Up |
Jan-04-05 09:42 PM |
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is there any law? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 09:55 PM |
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we've never done the same |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 09:57 PM |
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"I suspect that if the shoe was on the other foot...Dems would be hollerin |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-04-05 10:04 PM |
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I guess you haven't read........ |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:57 PM |
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It's called gerrymandering |
NV Whino |
Jan-04-05 11:45 PM |
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There is really no law against gerrymandering |
hughee99 |
Jan-05-05 12:55 PM |
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You are one Delirious writer. Texas becomes a Minority majority |
Melissa G |
Jan-05-05 10:57 PM |
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I think the point of redistricting is.... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 09:44 PM |
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I'm not going to unilaterally disarm |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 09:46 PM |
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OK... just don't claim....... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:29 PM |
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that's crap |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 10:38 PM |
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what's crap? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:46 PM |
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the answer is fighting fire with fire |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 10:50 PM |
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of all the weapons in your arsenal |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 11:14 PM |
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truth is great |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 11:22 PM |
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How can you claim the districts were gerrymandered... |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-04-05 09:51 PM |
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I was just quoting..... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:35 PM |
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Yet we are told to accept that Dems voted for Bush? |
dogman |
Jan-04-05 09:59 PM |
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yeah, but the way I understand it. the courts redraw the districts |
okieinpain |
Jan-04-05 10:33 PM |
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Agree ultrax |
Yupster |
Jan-04-05 11:36 PM |
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computers are the problem |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:50 AM |
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I don't know that gerrymandering is immoral |
Slickriddles |
Jan-05-05 10:17 PM |
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Seriously, Illinois has a GOP majority in its congressional delegation |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-04-05 10:37 PM |
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Not anymore we don't |
TedsGarage |
Jan-04-05 11:02 PM |
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Didn't know that, still it's definately not proportional... |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-05-05 03:49 PM |
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Jan-04-05 09:48 PM |
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nice try, no cigar |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:10 PM |
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As you admit...1992 is a horrible year to use especially ...since |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-04-05 10:13 PM |
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you're not making your case |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:23 PM |
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Yet those same "gerrymandered" districts were voting |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-05-05 05:27 AM |
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if you ignore 1992 |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:42 PM |
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Jan-04-05 10:03 PM |
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before you call me simplistic.......... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:38 PM |
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How could the legislature redistrict |
Yupster |
Jan-04-05 11:42 PM |
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the state senate is part of the legislature |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 11:46 PM |
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In addition to all else said... |
punpirate |
Jan-04-05 10:08 PM |
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you're ignoring 1990 redistricting |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:19 PM |
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No, your real topic was the possibility... |
punpirate |
Jan-04-05 10:50 PM |
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you confuse an introduction with the topic |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 11:12 PM |
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On your last point... |
punpirate |
Jan-04-05 11:30 PM |
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1990 redistricting |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 10:52 PM |
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Why are you harping on this now? |
Andromeda |
Jan-04-05 11:42 PM |
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context |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 12:00 PM |
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the poster you responded to |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:40 PM |
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the facts are........ |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:35 PM |
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what are you talking about |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 02:42 PM |
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you're blind to the possibility........ |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:20 PM |
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you really have no concept how politics works |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 07:50 PM |
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WERE you THERE ulTRAX? |
Melissa G |
Jan-05-05 11:03 PM |
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Again, for the intellectually challenged: Redistricting occurs once every |
TankLV |
Jan-05-05 10:24 PM |
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thank you very much |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 11:06 PM |
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Absolutely! Neither major party wants reform that threatens two party lock |
eallen |
Jan-04-05 10:43 PM |
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:49 PM |
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It's a good thing you're not teaching anyone political science |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-04-05 11:47 PM |
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You Texas folks are more on top of this than I am, but |
NV Whino |
Jan-05-05 12:05 AM |
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that is the main point |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:12 AM |
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Can you point to the law that makes it illegal? |
eallen |
Jan-05-05 07:59 AM |
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There is no law making what DeLay did illegal |
DebinTx |
Jan-05-05 08:18 AM |
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What you're saying is true |
ginbarn |
Jan-05-05 10:12 AM |
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have a cite? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 12:09 PM |
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So |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:35 PM |
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my concern is fair representation |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:55 AM |
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Yes, the party in power tends to want to stay in power. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 08:09 AM |
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I think the real problem is |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:47 AM |
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Wouldn't it be nice to simply say that |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-05-05 12:23 PM |
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except that |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 03:02 PM |
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One principle to live by is to think of the consequences of your actions |
DaedelusNemo |
Jan-05-05 03:46 PM |
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Where did I say anything |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-05-05 04:50 PM |
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The issue of this thread--started by you-- |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 12:39 PM |
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Thanks for repeating repuke talking points in here. |
Bouncy Ball |
Jan-05-05 10:52 AM |
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am I a Naderite? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:42 AM |
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Excellent |
Nederland |
Jan-05-05 12:10 PM |
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in the current environment |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:37 PM |
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Aw, poor babies |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 12:28 PM |
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Oh one more thing |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 12:30 PM |
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I can't expect....... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:53 PM |
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You want to be principal? |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:15 PM |
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"70% of the seats with only 50% of the vote?" Is that so unusual? |
fob |
Jan-05-05 01:11 PM |
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interesting math |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:30 PM |
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I'll answer your questions, and hopefully you will answer mine |
fob |
Jan-05-05 05:17 PM |
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continued - maxed out on last post! |
fob |
Jan-05-05 05:19 PM |
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here's an experiment |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 06:23 PM |
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We should have never stolen Texas from Mexico! n/t |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-05-05 01:38 PM |
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You didn't |
NoPasaran |
Jan-05-05 03:57 PM |
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LOL I stand Corrected |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-05-05 05:35 PM |
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What a crock of Naderite BS |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 02:59 PM |
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translation |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 03:05 PM |
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or maybe it simpler for you to say |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 03:13 PM |
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Thank ya, Dave. |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 03:23 PM |
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no problem |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 03:25 PM |
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of the two of us |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 04:42 PM |
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I'm not going to unilaterally disarm |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 07:52 PM |
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Yes |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 03:34 PM |
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Oh... I get it now!!!!! |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:09 PM |
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You sit at home and think about visions |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:18 PM |
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Gettin' Deja Vu here n/t |
Slickriddles |
Jan-05-05 10:47 PM |
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It's NOT stealing, either! |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 03:46 PM |
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YEEEHAW.... |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 03:56 PM |
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Out of curiosity |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 04:36 PM |
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No kidding... |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 04:52 PM |
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please learn to read |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:16 PM |
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Not a freeper? |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:21 PM |
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If it walks like a duck, & quacks like a duck , & looks like a duck... |
TankLV |
Jan-05-05 10:34 PM |
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Especially when the poster ignores the sleaze factor (DeLay's tactics) |
dogman |
Jan-05-05 05:18 PM |
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I'm not ignoring DeLay |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:26 PM |
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What you're DOING |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:39 PM |
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gee... one day and you're an expert |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:48 PM |
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My oh my |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 06:56 PM |
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you are the good Democrat |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 07:54 PM |
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Gee Dave |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 09:22 PM |
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wrong |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 09:50 PM |
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You go Dave |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 09:27 PM |
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exactly |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 09:57 PM |
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what next... Dem Brown Shirts? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 09:10 PM |
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Read it again |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 09:30 PM |
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did the GOP goons do anything illegal in 2000? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:41 PM |
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Because the DeLay sleaze is not redistricting. |
dogman |
Jan-05-05 05:50 PM |
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why were the Dems really mad? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:29 PM |
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I agree, both parties are sleeze. I would like to see |
napi21 |
Jan-05-05 05:22 PM |
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You can't do that unless |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-05-05 05:42 PM |
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Democrats To Try DeLay Redistricting? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:41 PM |
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Sure, its OK |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:50 PM |
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You want to know what side I'm on? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 06:30 PM |
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Jan-05-05 06:59 PM |
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let's put your accusation to the test |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:03 PM |
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Jan-05-05 10:06 PM |
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You go Dave! |
TankLV |
Jan-05-05 10:42 PM |
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the threat needs to be out there |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 10:31 PM |
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please make sense |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:57 PM |
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Dems did not go nuclear |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 11:01 PM |
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It's much easier in North Dakota |
TheFarseer |
Jan-05-05 10:21 PM |
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F**k off! The Republicans are without any doubt the sleaziest, greediest |
leesa |
Jan-05-05 10:34 PM |
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Tom DeLay's plan looks like the Democrat's 1990 plan in reverse |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:50 PM |
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Clearly Lies... |
Melissa G |
Jan-05-05 11:11 PM |
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I'm locking this thread |
Moderator |
Jan-05-05 11:48 PM |
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