Bridget Burke
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Wed Jan-05-05 08:09 AM
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| 46. Yes, the party in power tends to want to stay in power. |
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But what Tom DeLay did (with the help of Governor Good Hair) was way out of line.
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| -TEXAS REDISTRICTING: Texas Dems Just As Sleazy as Tom DeLay? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 09:29 PM |
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You've only repeated DeLay's arguement, that's what he said. |
dogman |
Jan-04-05 09:36 PM |
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correct |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 09:39 PM |
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Exactly |
Not_Giving_Up |
Jan-04-05 09:42 PM |
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is there any law? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 09:55 PM |
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we've never done the same |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 09:57 PM |
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"I suspect that if the shoe was on the other foot...Dems would be hollerin |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-04-05 10:04 PM |
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I guess you haven't read........ |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:57 PM |
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It's called gerrymandering |
NV Whino |
Jan-04-05 11:45 PM |
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There is really no law against gerrymandering |
hughee99 |
Jan-05-05 12:55 PM |
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You are one Delirious writer. Texas becomes a Minority majority |
Melissa G |
Jan-05-05 10:57 PM |
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I think the point of redistricting is.... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 09:44 PM |
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I'm not going to unilaterally disarm |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 09:46 PM |
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OK... just don't claim....... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:29 PM |
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that's crap |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 10:38 PM |
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what's crap? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:46 PM |
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the answer is fighting fire with fire |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 10:50 PM |
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of all the weapons in your arsenal |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 11:14 PM |
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truth is great |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 11:22 PM |
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How can you claim the districts were gerrymandered... |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-04-05 09:51 PM |
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I was just quoting..... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:35 PM |
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Yet we are told to accept that Dems voted for Bush? |
dogman |
Jan-04-05 09:59 PM |
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yeah, but the way I understand it. the courts redraw the districts |
okieinpain |
Jan-04-05 10:33 PM |
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Agree ultrax |
Yupster |
Jan-04-05 11:36 PM |
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computers are the problem |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:50 AM |
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I don't know that gerrymandering is immoral |
Slickriddles |
Jan-05-05 10:17 PM |
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Seriously, Illinois has a GOP majority in its congressional delegation |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-04-05 10:37 PM |
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Not anymore we don't |
TedsGarage |
Jan-04-05 11:02 PM |
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Didn't know that, still it's definately not proportional... |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-05-05 03:49 PM |
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Jan-04-05 09:48 PM |
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nice try, no cigar |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:10 PM |
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As you admit...1992 is a horrible year to use especially ...since |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-04-05 10:13 PM |
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you're not making your case |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:23 PM |
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Yet those same "gerrymandered" districts were voting |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-05-05 05:27 AM |
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if you ignore 1992 |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:42 PM |
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Jan-04-05 10:03 PM |
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before you call me simplistic.......... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:38 PM |
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How could the legislature redistrict |
Yupster |
Jan-04-05 11:42 PM |
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the state senate is part of the legislature |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 11:46 PM |
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In addition to all else said... |
punpirate |
Jan-04-05 10:08 PM |
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you're ignoring 1990 redistricting |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:19 PM |
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No, your real topic was the possibility... |
punpirate |
Jan-04-05 10:50 PM |
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you confuse an introduction with the topic |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 11:12 PM |
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On your last point... |
punpirate |
Jan-04-05 11:30 PM |
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1990 redistricting |
DaveinMD |
Jan-04-05 10:52 PM |
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Why are you harping on this now? |
Andromeda |
Jan-04-05 11:42 PM |
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context |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 12:00 PM |
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the poster you responded to |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:40 PM |
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the facts are........ |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:35 PM |
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what are you talking about |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 02:42 PM |
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you're blind to the possibility........ |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:20 PM |
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you really have no concept how politics works |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 07:50 PM |
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WERE you THERE ulTRAX? |
Melissa G |
Jan-05-05 11:03 PM |
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Again, for the intellectually challenged: Redistricting occurs once every |
TankLV |
Jan-05-05 10:24 PM |
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thank you very much |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 11:06 PM |
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Absolutely! Neither major party wants reform that threatens two party lock |
eallen |
Jan-04-05 10:43 PM |
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
ulTRAX |
Jan-04-05 10:49 PM |
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It's a good thing you're not teaching anyone political science |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-04-05 11:47 PM |
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You Texas folks are more on top of this than I am, but |
NV Whino |
Jan-05-05 12:05 AM |
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that is the main point |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:12 AM |
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Can you point to the law that makes it illegal? |
eallen |
Jan-05-05 07:59 AM |
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There is no law making what DeLay did illegal |
DebinTx |
Jan-05-05 08:18 AM |
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What you're saying is true |
ginbarn |
Jan-05-05 10:12 AM |
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have a cite? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 12:09 PM |
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So |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:35 PM |
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my concern is fair representation |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:55 AM |
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Yes, the party in power tends to want to stay in power. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 08:09 AM |
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I think the real problem is |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:47 AM |
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Wouldn't it be nice to simply say that |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-05-05 12:23 PM |
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except that |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 03:02 PM |
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One principle to live by is to think of the consequences of your actions |
DaedelusNemo |
Jan-05-05 03:46 PM |
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Where did I say anything |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-05-05 04:50 PM |
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The issue of this thread--started by you-- |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-05-05 12:39 PM |
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Thanks for repeating repuke talking points in here. |
Bouncy Ball |
Jan-05-05 10:52 AM |
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am I a Naderite? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 11:42 AM |
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Excellent |
Nederland |
Jan-05-05 12:10 PM |
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in the current environment |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 12:37 PM |
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Aw, poor babies |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 12:28 PM |
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Oh one more thing |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 12:30 PM |
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I can't expect....... |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:53 PM |
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You want to be principal? |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:15 PM |
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"70% of the seats with only 50% of the vote?" Is that so unusual? |
fob |
Jan-05-05 01:11 PM |
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interesting math |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 02:30 PM |
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I'll answer your questions, and hopefully you will answer mine |
fob |
Jan-05-05 05:17 PM |
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continued - maxed out on last post! |
fob |
Jan-05-05 05:19 PM |
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here's an experiment |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 06:23 PM |
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We should have never stolen Texas from Mexico! n/t |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-05-05 01:38 PM |
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You didn't |
NoPasaran |
Jan-05-05 03:57 PM |
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LOL I stand Corrected |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-05-05 05:35 PM |
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What a crock of Naderite BS |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 02:59 PM |
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translation |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 03:05 PM |
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or maybe it simpler for you to say |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 03:13 PM |
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Thank ya, Dave. |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 03:23 PM |
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no problem |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 03:25 PM |
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of the two of us |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 04:42 PM |
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I'm not going to unilaterally disarm |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 07:52 PM |
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Yes |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 03:34 PM |
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Oh... I get it now!!!!! |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:09 PM |
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You sit at home and think about visions |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:18 PM |
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Gettin' Deja Vu here n/t |
Slickriddles |
Jan-05-05 10:47 PM |
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It's NOT stealing, either! |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 03:46 PM |
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YEEEHAW.... |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 03:56 PM |
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Out of curiosity |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 04:36 PM |
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No kidding... |
txaslftist |
Jan-05-05 04:52 PM |
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please learn to read |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:16 PM |
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Not a freeper? |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:21 PM |
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If it walks like a duck, & quacks like a duck , & looks like a duck... |
TankLV |
Jan-05-05 10:34 PM |
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Especially when the poster ignores the sleaze factor (DeLay's tactics) |
dogman |
Jan-05-05 05:18 PM |
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I'm not ignoring DeLay |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:26 PM |
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What you're DOING |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:39 PM |
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gee... one day and you're an expert |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:48 PM |
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My oh my |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 06:56 PM |
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you are the good Democrat |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 07:54 PM |
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Gee Dave |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 09:22 PM |
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wrong |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 09:50 PM |
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You go Dave |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 09:27 PM |
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exactly |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 09:57 PM |
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what next... Dem Brown Shirts? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 09:10 PM |
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Read it again |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 09:30 PM |
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did the GOP goons do anything illegal in 2000? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:41 PM |
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Because the DeLay sleaze is not redistricting. |
dogman |
Jan-05-05 05:50 PM |
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why were the Dems really mad? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:29 PM |
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I agree, both parties are sleeze. I would like to see |
napi21 |
Jan-05-05 05:22 PM |
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You can't do that unless |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-05-05 05:42 PM |
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Democrats To Try DeLay Redistricting? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 05:41 PM |
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Sure, its OK |
MisterLiberal |
Jan-05-05 05:50 PM |
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You want to know what side I'm on? |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 06:30 PM |
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Jan-05-05 06:59 PM |
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let's put your accusation to the test |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:03 PM |
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Jan-05-05 10:06 PM |
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You go Dave! |
TankLV |
Jan-05-05 10:42 PM |
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the threat needs to be out there |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 10:31 PM |
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please make sense |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:57 PM |
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Dems did not go nuclear |
DaveinMD |
Jan-05-05 11:01 PM |
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It's much easier in North Dakota |
TheFarseer |
Jan-05-05 10:21 PM |
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F**k off! The Republicans are without any doubt the sleaziest, greediest |
leesa |
Jan-05-05 10:34 PM |
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Tom DeLay's plan looks like the Democrat's 1990 plan in reverse |
ulTRAX |
Jan-05-05 10:50 PM |
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Clearly Lies... |
Melissa G |
Jan-05-05 11:11 PM |
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I'm locking this thread |
Moderator |
Jan-05-05 11:48 PM |
#137 |